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Lady GaGa's ARTPOP is a project, not just an album
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toanythingtaboo
06-09-2012
Who pissed in y'alls Cheerio's this morning?

Why are people so desperate for her to be just like everyone else?

Lady Gaga is pretentious, she loves technology and doing things differently. I thought you'd met back in 2009 because she was EXACTLY the same back then. Apparently not.
Hav_mor91
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by toanythingtaboo:
“Who pissed in y'alls Cheerio's this morning?

Why are people so desperate for her to be just like everyone else?

Lady Gaga is pretentious, she loves technology and doing things differently. I thought you'd met back in 2009 because she was EXACTLY the same back then. Apparently not.”

She may be Pretentioius but she never pulls it off her last album was not the standout amazing album it was supposed to be so rtaher than rectifying the situation and focusing on what is supposedly her strongest assest The Music itself she is again giving out rehashed ideas hyping things up way before any solid release date. The overall respons on this thread should tell you most would be happier witha decent album rather than a ''Project'', ''Experience'', or second coming she just needs to give it a rest some people manage to be relevant, pretentious, different all whilst giving a decent musical output something Gaga has failed to do since 2010 it's just too much now and its difficult to take her seriously she is a parody of her own self.
toanythingtaboo
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by Hav_mor91:
“She may be Pretentioius but she never pulls it off her last album was not the standout amazing album it was supposed to be so rtaher than rectifying the situation and focusing on what is supposedly her strongest assest The Music itself she is again giving out rehashed ideas hyping things up way before any solid release date. The overall respons on this thread should tell you most would be happier witha decent album rather than a ''Project'', ''Experience'', or second coming she just needs to give it a rest some people manage to be relevant, pretentious, different all whilst giving a decent musical output something Gaga has failed to do since 2010 it's just too much now and its difficult to take her seriously she is a parody of her own self.”

"She never pulls it off"? Where were you from 2009 to 2011?

How do you know she isn't focused on supposedly "rectifying the situation" and focusing on the music? Have you heard the album? I don't see the logic in that talking about making an album app means that the music quality is suffering.

The album WILL be a "project" and an "experience", though. She's not claiming an unparalleled innovation that will benefit all man kind. It's an app to enhance the experience of listening to the album.

At the end of the day, those who are interested can engage in the app and those who aren't can just buy the album. Saying that she should not bother whatsoever to do something interesting because it doesn't interest you personally is just arrogant.
Fear of Fours
06-09-2012
I have about as much interest in this project that I had in her others.

*tumbleweed blows across the screen*
DJames99
06-09-2012
It sounds interesting and similar to the app Bjork did for Biophilia, but I think i'll stick to just buying the album for now.
nikproffitt
06-09-2012
Not really sure what the problem is. If she wants to release an app let her,

If it had been a more credible artist would anyone care or would it have been called innovative.

Not a fan of her by the way, but if she wants to try new ways of doing things let her. Apps may be the future for all we know.
Hav_mor91
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by toanythingtaboo:
“"She never pulls it off"? Where were you from 2009 to 2011?

How do you know she isn't focused on supposedly "rectifying the situation" and focusing on the music? Have you heard the album? I don't see the logic in that talking about making an album app means that the music quality is suffering.

The album WILL be a "project" and an "experience", though. She's not claiming an unparalleled innovation that will benefit all man kind. It's an app to enhance the experience of listening to the album.

At the end of the day, those who are interested can engage in the app and those who aren't can just buy the album. Saying that she should not bother whatsoever to do something interesting because it doesn't interest you personally is just arrogant.”

2008-2010 she was exciting relevant and a breath of fresh air 2011 a pretentious mess who released one solidly good single and a mixed to good album whilst wearing funny costumes.

And the point im making is at some point Gaga will come out with this is an ''album of the decade'' or now ''a project an experience'' she simply just never pulls it off its not arrogant its seeing a pattern emerge and estimating the outcome im not the only one to mention the idea is not stupid just completely unneccessary and another indictaor of how pretentious and up her backside she has become when Gaga is good she is great The Fame and Fame Monster her most straigt forward and simple and most effective she just needs to walk befoire she can run.
Kanzi
06-09-2012
Don't get all the hate. I salute toanythingtaboo for actually abandoning doe-eyed fandom and meeting the hystericals half-way. Jesus its a shame they can't do the same.

Not bothered by this announcement at all - if the music's good the music's good; I've no need for an app but it's a nice gift for those that'll enjoy it. Don't see why anyone should get worked up about something they have no interest in though. Can't be healthy.
Alrightmate
06-09-2012
Has the artist created a piece now has she?
toanythingtaboo
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by Hav_mor91:
“2008-2010 she was exciting relevant and a breath of fresh air 2011 a pretentious mess who released one solidly good single and a mixed to good album whilst wearing funny costumes.

And the point im making is at some point Gaga will come out with this is an ''album of the decade'' or now ''a project an experience'' she simply just never pulls it off its not arrogant its seeing a pattern emerge and estimating the outcome im not the only one to mention the idea is not stupid just completely unneccessary and another indictaor of how pretentious and up her backside she has become when Gaga is good she is great The Fame and Fame Monster her most straigt forward and simple and most effective she just needs to walk befoire she can run.”

"Never" pulling it off is now failing to live up to ONE comment? Keeping her on a tight leash there. It isn't a pattern, it's cynical assumption.

Frankly, I think you're overthinking this. Judge the music when it comes and either get the app or don't. It's not that serious.
Hav_mor91
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by toanythingtaboo:
“"Never" pulling it off is now failing to live up to ONE comment? Keeping her on a tight leash there. It isn't a pattern, it's cynical assumption.

Frankly, I think you're overthinking this. Judge the music when it comes and either get the app or don't. It's not that serious.”

It's not just living up to one comment its the cyclical nature of her as an artist to build and create immesurable hype that will be difficult to live up to.

It's the sheer scale of her pretense that is now stifiling i'll waitand see what the music sounds like but here we are again months before release and Gaga makes comment that the album will be this that and the other whether pseudo political statements or an ''experience''
toanythingtaboo
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by Hav_mor91:
“It's not just living up to one comment its the cyclical nature of her as an artist to build and create immesurable hype that will be difficult to live up to.

It's the sheer scale of her pretense that is now stifiling i'll waitand see what the music sounds like but here we are again months before release and Gaga makes comment that the album will be this that and the other whether pseudo political statements or an ''experience''”

I think it's a testament to Gaga's starpower that people consider indirectly announcing the album title via tattoo and discussing the album app on her website, is considered building "immeasurable hype".

Again, she's hardly claiming an unparalleled innovation that will benefit all man kind...she just said that she's releasing a multimedia app for her album. I'm not particularly sure why the word "experience" has ruffled your feathers so much.
rbautz
06-09-2012
I think many who like music, want music and not a leader and her manny minions who work for the Haus.

Her music should be bigger than fashion.

In the ATRL forum there are at least every day, three threads about new attire of her, and all poster clapping at these photos indifferent how pathetic some clothes are. Or should I say the clapping comes from a certain community.
If she want to appeal further with her Haus to that community (there is nothing wrong, if she want to do that) than she will lost more and more of the common public. Her new album is called ARTPOP, so I think there is more talent of the minions than of hers in it.
Hav_mor91
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by toanythingtaboo:
“I think it's a testament to Gaga's starpower that people consider indirectly announcing the album title via tattoo and discussing the album app on her website, is considered building "immeasurable hype".

Again, she's hardly claiming an unparalleled innovation that will benefit all man kind...she just said that she's releasing a multimedia app for her album. I'm not particularly sure why the word "experience" has ruffled your feathers so much.”

What you mean indirectly annopuncing the title yes what a happy accident that was everything she does is coldly calculated she is a business woman and good on her but lets not delude ourselves. And I think im so ruffled as i think alot of the time she fails to deliver on the basics we had months prior to BTW of similar announcments etc and the album was by no means a stinker but wasn't what it was built to be either and its seemingly nonsensical to me to continue in the same manner rather than focusing on something specific the msuic and making it as strong as it could be rather than having to again resort to stunts and novelty tricks.
toanythingtaboo
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by Hav_mor91:
“What you mean indirectly annopuncing the title yes what a happy accident that was everything she does is coldly calculated she is a business woman and good on her but lets not delude ourselves. And I think im so ruffled as i think alot of the time she fails to deliver on the basics we had months prior to BTW of similar announcments etc and the album was by no means a stinker but wasn't what it was built to be either and its seemingly nonsensical to me to continue in the same manner rather than focusing on something specific the msuic and making it as strong as it could be rather than having to again resort to stunts and novelty tricks.”

Of course it was no accident, I was pointing out the lack of actual hyping relative to your claims.

Compared to the BTW campaign of grandiose claims, consistent mentioning on tour and of course a prime time meat-clad unveiling of the album title accompanied by a few sung verses - the ARTPOP campaign has been a relative whisper. She's barely revealed anything. If people are getting overly hyped up over it, it's their own fault this time.

Again, you can't possibly know how focused or not she is on the music. The quality is not relative to how many bells and whistles are attached.
MissMusique
06-09-2012
I think perhaps being on a music forum can be a little misleading. I'm sure if you spole to the general public they wouldn't know Gaga's next album was due next year or that its called ARTPOP. Mostly everything that we know about the project Gaga has released on or her own twitter page - so not a direct statement or anything. I don't really think this can be counted as hype really because we still don't really know anything about the direction of the album or what any of te songs are called. Within Gaga's fan base there's always a lot of speculation cos there's always clues behind what she wears or says - its like a game between her and her fans.

People may disapprove of what she's doing, and that's fine - if everyone liked everything the world would be a boring place! But to imply its all style over substance is a little unfair seeing as we haven't had any material yet. I for one think it's exciting that she's doing something different (and I'm not saying she's the first to do it) and can't wait to see what she comes out with. Let's not be too quick to judge either way and just see what happens. Change can be a good thing and it's her album, she can do with it what she likes!
benana93
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by MissMusique:
“I think perhaps being on a music forum can be a little misleading. I'm sure if you spole to the general public they wouldn't know Gaga's next album was due next year or that its called ARTPOP. Mostly everything that we know about the project Gaga has released on or her own twitter page - so not a direct statement or anything. I don't really think this can be counted as hype really because we still don't really know anything about the direction of the album or what any of te songs are called. Within Gaga's fan base there's always a lot of speculation cos there's always clues behind what she wears or says - its like a game between her and her fans.

People may disapprove of what she's doing, and that's fine - if everyone liked everything the world would be a boring place! But to imply its all style over substance is a little unfair seeing as we haven't had any material yet. I for one think it's exciting that she's doing something different (and I'm not saying she's the first to do it) and can't wait to see what she comes out with. Let's not be too quick to judge either way and just see what happens. Change can be a good thing and it's her album, she can do with it what she likes!”

Precisely my thoughts. People are just getting caught up between their own personal opinions of Gaga and what they think is happening, rather than seeing that, like toanythingtaboo stated, the album campaign this time has started on a relative whisper compared to BTW.

Wait until you hear material before claiming that she's being "pretentious" by daring to release an app which supports her album. Nobody's forcing you to download it, so all of the OTT negative reaction on this thread shows that she's doing her job very well because she can get a reaction out of people by making a very simple statement. To me that shows that she's on top of her game and that there's still an interest in her from the more invested music fans and from the wider public.
Cloudbuster
06-09-2012
This beggars belief.
gpk
06-09-2012
a few people have stated their opinion on this latest development, but i do think its rather over dramatic to dismiss those opinions citing `hate`. the op started the thread inviting opinion and that is what happened. i certainly wasn't aware of this new `project` beforehand and i wouldn't have gone looking for something to moan about.
sjp07
06-09-2012
One of my friends is a diehard gaga fan (it's sickening tbh), but hates this idea. This is exactly what he said about it:
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“ I hate this entire thing.”

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“ It's as if her app is some sort of gift of art upon us measly monsters. I don't like it. It's just an ipad app where you'll post pictures, okay?”

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“ It's not art. IT'S NOT.”

This is coming from a guy who thinks BTW was the best album to be put forth in years and no one is as innovative as gaga. He called the entire Judas saga a work of genius art and people just don't understand her.
toanythingtaboo
06-09-2012
^ So?
gpk
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by toanythingtaboo:
“^ So?”

its opinion and this thread is encouraging opinion about this project.
toanythingtaboo
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by gpk:
“its opinion and this thread is encouraging opinion about this project.”

If that's all it was, cool.
gpk
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by toanythingtaboo:
“If that's all it was, cool. ”

i don't know, its was posted by another forum member. however, i would say it seems to be relevant to the discussion.
toanythingtaboo
06-09-2012
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“HEYLO! Good morning angels! been reading your comments/questions about ARTPOP APP and wanted to answer your questions!

1. ARTPOP APP will be available to work on computers (for example your laptops,) in addition to iPads, tablets, smartphone, Android, (compatible with as many formats that this technology can function on at this time) if you have a laptop this will fully suffice you to utilize it, so do not fret! I already anticipated you would say that Nobody will be missing out on anything special! Nothing is different except I've giving you more stuff to play with and have fun.

2. It will not be more expensive than album. I find digital music to be overpriced (as it is not the same value as a physical copy) and this is a way to give you more.

2. Bjork (who had always been on the cutting edge) was the first artist to release her music in this way, to my knowledge. There are also other international underground musicians and business that use the APP as well to sell various products. The use of an APP as a way to sell albums, in my opinion is the future of music. I am in no way taking credit for the invention of the APP, or claiming to be the first artist to distribute music this way. An APP is "CANVAS" a medium. Like an MP3 is a medium for digital music, except I can attach a variety of sub-mediums within the APP to create a visual/interactive world for you. This world is built organically by the HAUS OF GAGA, and will be a completely unique and different experience from other music-sale based APPs because its inspired by us and the new sound of my music. However I am hoping that *god willing* the success of ARTPOPs music will propel the use of artist driven APPs further into the music industry stratosphere. Im excited to be apart of it. Ultimately the APP is unimportant if the music isn't great though right?

3. My vision for ARTPOP in general is also NOT EXCLUSIVE to the APP. That is just one element. THE ARTPOP PROJECT extends beyond the APP and there will be more surprises in the future NOT related to the APP, perhaps I did not make that clear. SORRY!!

4. I know how protective and loving you all are, especially after the last year. I respect and love you for looking out for me. I don't think I've ever made a personal request from you before but here goes…

Try to release the negativity of last year and open your hearts and minds to a more free-thinking, and happy year. ARTPOP is about POSSIBILITIES. Try not to stress or put energy into a fear that I will be attacked again. I will always be a warrior for you, and expect to be in a line of fire for the next 30 years. (I always expected/wanted to be this kind of polarizing figure) but, I want you to ENJOY THIS EXPERIENCE, don't allow fear of the media to propel you into a frenzy and steal your joy of whats to come. Please trust me. I've grown a lot this year. Lets grow together. I won't let you down.


love you cookie monsters,
LG”

Well said, IMO.
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