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Lady GaGa's ARTPOP is a project, not just an album
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06-09-2012
Originally Posted by sjp07:
“Saying her fans doesn't mean that it was all of them. It is a fact that fans of lady gaga wished Adele to have throat cancer. Those are her fans. I never said all of her fans. If the shoe doesn't fit, let it go.”

No one says Jessie's fans, or Adele's fans, they say some weirdo or some troll. It seems to be Gaga fans hat are all insane bullies apparently.
sjp07
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by Check it out:
“No one says Jessie's fans, or Adele's fans, they say some weirdo or some troll. It seems to be Gaga fans hat are all insane bullies apparently.”

Actually there was a big thing about Jessie's fans bullying people online who told her to die last year. The same thing is said about Nicki Minaj's fans. Remember when fans of hers went after Jill Scott on twitter after she said she didn't like her absolutely bonkers grammy performance this year. All the headlines were, "Nicki Minaj crazed fans attack Jill Scott." Same thing with Team Breezy.
Check it out
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by sjp07:
“Actually there was a big thing about Jessie's fans bullying people online who told her to die last year. The same thing is said about Nicki Minaj's fans. Remember when fans of hers went after Jill Scott on twitter after she said she didn't like her absolutely bonkers grammy performance this year. All the headlines were, "Nicki Minaj crazed fans attack Jill Scott." Same thing with Team Breezy.”

What I am saying is that they are rarely just referenced to as Their fans, they are called the "crazed", the crazed Gaga ones are simply "Little Monsters". It's not really fair.
sjp07
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by Check it out:
“What I am saying is that they are rarely just referenced to as Their fans, they are called the "crazed", the crazed Gaga ones are simply "Little Monsters". It's not really fair.”

Yes they are. Especially team breezy. In the past year they have gotten it A LOT more than gagas fans. They have been labelled crazy, idiotic thugs on more than one occasion in the media this year.

It doesn't happen to Adele because on average her fans are older than than a lot of gaga's, chris', and nicki's fans. she doesn't even have near as many followers on twitter as them so less opportunity for people to go crazy. Also, Adele is universally liked. There are people who dislike her, but the overall consensus is that Adele is great and she doesn't spark controversy like the others.
Alrightmate
06-09-2012
What is team breezy?

Are they another of these fan groups?
If so who are they fans of?
kazozh5
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by sjp07:
“Saying her fans doesn't mean that it was all of them. It is a fact that fans of lady gaga wished Adele to have throat cancer. Those are her fans. I never said all of her fans. If the shoe doesn't fit, let it go.”

they're not just fans of lady gaga, they are their own human beings. The fact that they like gaga is sorta irrelevant, im sure they also liked many other music artists.
kazozh5
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by sjp07:
“Attacked? Saying she is pretentious isn't an attack”

if only it was just her being called pretentious
odie8391
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“What is team breezy?

Are they another of these fan groups?
If so who are they fans of?”

Chris Brown
sjp07
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by kazozh5:
“they're not just fans of lady gaga, they are their own human beings. The fact that they like gaga is sorta irrelevant, im sure they also liked many other music artists.”

It's relevant to the fact that somewhere in their deluded minds they feel the need to "protect" her by being rude to other people. Not all of her fans and not just her fans, the Directioners, beliebers, and all the rest of the ridiculously extreme probably young teenagers who feel the need to electronically abuse people who have a different opinion than them about something they like. It isn't even rational and yet, they will defend it.
Jen-B
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by kazozh5:
“Well surely your implication is just as inaccurate as mine??
I didn't say no one understands her but the fact that people don't get why she can talk about music and videos as part of her craft and art because of the type of music she makes, would suggest that they don't understand gaga.

Also you don't have to understand gaga in order to like her, that is not what I said. But how would you know a lot of people on here understand her?
Just because you think you understand something, doesn't mean u definitely do.”

Similarly, how do YOU know you fully "understand"? Just because you think you understand something doesn't mean you do. Do you understand a lot of the stuff; do you "fully understand" the postmodernist stuff etc.? Really...?

Being a 'fan' doesn't give you exclusive understanding, just as similarly 'not' being a fan doesn't mean you "don't understand". You know just as well as I do what you were implying, and you know what, that kind of pseudo-intellectual snobbery is so sweet, but so, so wrong.
kazozh5
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by Jen-B:
“Similarly, how do YOU know you fully "understand"? Just because you think you understand something doesn't mean you do. Do you understand a lot of the stuff; do you "fully understand" the postmodernist stuff etc.? Really...?

Being a 'fan' doesn't give you exclusive understanding, just as similarly 'not' being a fan doesn't mean you "don't understand". You know just as well as I do what you were implying, and you know what, that kind of pseudo-intellectual snobbery is so sweet, but so, so wrong.”

Did I say I fully understand her?

No, don't put words into my mouth. In fact I didn't say anything you've talked about in your post. I think you need to re read what I've written cause you've clearly misunderstood it.
gpk
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by kazozh5:
“Actually Born This Way was quite well received critically. She's got a lot of flack the last year from people like on this forum who don't understand gaga , her message, or can't register that pop music doesn't have to be mindless trash with no thought. Also she got attacked with this whole madonna thing”

oh, boo hoo. i honesty think she has lost prospective and her sense of humour if she honestly feels like this. she is in a fortunate position that most musicians would kill for and she wants to dwell on the negatives? in the last year, she has had a successful album and is now embarking on a successful tour. she should be counting her blessings, not bemoaning the last year in this way.

its really not about deeper understanding at all. all that has happened here is that she has made a couple of announcements and people have posted their views on what she has announced. like it or not, its opinion and whether these people `get her` is frankly irrelevant. nobody knows the woman personally and while some may have more exposure to her than others. everyone has the right to post constructive opinions.
MrsOrin
07-09-2012
Her little Ipad for Xmas comment is bad taste. I feel bad for parents of some of these fans that can't afford to buy ipads and seeing how crazy some of her fans are I see lots of 'I will kill myself if you don't get me an ipad' threats being made between now and xmas.
STACEYFISHER
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by sjp07:
“Saying her fans doesn't mean that it was all of them. It is a fact that fans of lady gaga wished Adele to have throat cancer. Those are her fans. I never said all of her fans. If the shoe doesn't fit, let it go.”

Gaga fans have a truly terrible reputation. They told Boy George to die of aids, Wished Kelly Osbourne to get raped. Wanted Madonna to be shot dead after her concert got a terriost threat then went on to racially abuse her children. Little Monsters ruined Christina Aguilera's reputation with lies, hate Katy Perry and abuse Nicki Minaj in the street.

They are the worst set of fans I have ever known and Gaga sits back and lets it happen.

As for the ipad. All Gaga cares about is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ not her fans. The website for her fans is all about creating money for herself outside of Twitter!!!

Its total manipulation of very young music buyers.
cnbcwatcher
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by MrsOrin:
“Her little Ipad for Xmas comment is bad taste. I feel bad for parents of some of these fans that can't afford to buy ipads and seeing how crazy some of her fans are I see lots of 'I will kill myself if you don't get me an ipad' threats being made between now and xmas.”

Whoa I don't like the sound of that
benana93
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by MrsOrin:
“Her little Ipad for Xmas comment is bad taste. I feel bad for parents of some of these fans that can't afford to buy ipads and seeing how crazy some of her fans are I see lots of 'I will kill myself if you don't get me an ipad' threats being made between now and xmas.”

No. I highly doubt that'll occur.
gelbma0991
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by KieranDS:
“Didn't Bjork do the same thing last year?”

Yeah she did, it was a pretty interesting experience. I never really used it that much though, I just enjoyed the album haha.

Interesting to see that she noted that in her statement about it though. Yay for referencing your influencers haha
Alrightmate
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by odie8391:
“Chris Brown”

Thanks.
sjp07
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by STACEYFISHER:
“Gaga fans have a truly terrible reputation. They told Boy George to die of aids, Wished Kelly Osbourne to get raped. Wanted Madonna to be shot dead after her concert got a terriost threat then went on to racially abuse her children. Little Monsters ruined Christina Aguilera's reputation with lies, hate Katy Perry and abuse Nicki Minaj in the street.

.”

sjp07
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by benana93:
“No. I highly doubt that'll occur.”

This really doesn't seem like a far fetched idea since there are loads of them who claim gaga is the reason they breathe. A bit obsessive if you ask me. Jessie J has the same problem. Some of her fans are absolutely bananas. Like the girl who lied about having open heart surgery and taped an ipod earbud to her arm to make it look like an IV so all the little twitter fans would try to help her get Jessie's attention. Eventually they found out she was faking, but this was after they all tweeted Jessie to get in contact with her and she did, then the girl deleted everything. Or the girl who supposedly broke her leg to be like her. I think a lot of these parents should get their children in therapy because they clearly aren't emotionally stable.
Check it out
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by STACEYFISHER:
“Gaga fans have a truly terrible reputation. They told Boy George to die of aids, Wished Kelly Osbourne to get raped. Wanted Madonna to be shot dead after her concert got a terriost threat then went on to racially abuse her children. Little Monsters ruined Christina Aguilera's reputation with lies, hate Katy Perry and abuse Nicki Minaj in the street.

They are the worst set of fans I have ever known and Gaga sits back and lets it happen.

As for the ipad. All Gaga cares about is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ not her fans. The website for her fans is all about creating money for herself outside of Twitter!!!

Its total manipulation of very young music buyers.”

I am a Lady Gaga fan and have never said any of that. What a horrible post.
STACEYFISHER
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by Check it out:
“I am a Lady Gaga fan and have never said any of that. What a horrible post.”

Horrible in what way exactly?

Google each incident and you will find more than enough evidence to prove they happened. I suggest you stop being so defensive and stop calling everyone you disagree with horrible or rude.
gelbma0991
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by STACEYFISHER:
“Horrible in what way exactly?

Google each incident and you will find more than enough evidence to prove they happened. I suggest you stop being so defensive and stop calling everyone you disagree with horrible or rude.”

I think tarnishing all fans of lady gaga with the same brush is the thing that is 'horrible'. I like her and her music a lot, but I don't claim she's the second coming or anything.
sjp07
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by gelbma0991:
“I think tarnishing all fans of lady gaga with the same brush is the thing that is 'horrible'. I like her and her music a lot, but I don't claim she's the second coming or anything.”

Can we please make it clear that no one has said ALL of her fans. You all call yourselves the same thing so don't be surprised when people lump you together in a generalization. It isn't to say all of you, but no one knows each individual fan's name to call them out on it. Like I said before, if the shoe doesn't fit, let it go.
WhyHelloWorld
07-09-2012
She is the worlds most annoying woman.
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