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Should music come under the same censorship rules as films and games?
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SuperAPJ
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by spindiddly:
“My name is Onika, you can call me Nicki.
CFNSORED.
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I don't think I've ever heard that line uncensored on TV or radio. It annoys me. Yes, it may sound like she's saying "n*gga" but there have long been songs where people think a lyric sounds like swearing (see misheard lyrics threads on here) and those songs don't get censored.

Originally Posted by Mr Perks:
“there was a classic radio comedy called I'm Sorry I'll Read That Again[...]Julie Andrew's "I could have ****** all night and still have begged for more, I could have spread my ***** And done a thousand things I've never done before".”

I like the sound of that show!
johnnybgoode83
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by Simon Rodgers:
“No I said it was MEANT to have been because of that. That was the reason given. I did not actually say if this was correct or not.

My question is with music getting blamed in this way, should we have censorship or more compulsory warnings?”

Never. People should take responsibility for their own actions instead of looking for others to blame.
Glawster2002
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by Simon Rodgers:
“No I said it was MEANT to have been because of that. That was the reason given. I did not actually say if this was correct or not.

My question is with music getting blamed in this way, should we have censorship or more compulsory warnings?”

No we shouldn't have more censorship ot compulsory warnings, what we should do is stop this pathetic "scapegoating" where everyone and anyone is to blame apart from the person, or persons, who actually commits the act.
mushymanrob
07-09-2012
is it acceptable for adult people, 18 - 40 (the main culprits) , to talk to children of pre-teen ages about what they want to do to their female partners? or use filthy language? to recite the lyrics to 'my neck, my back, lick it' (or whatever that repugnant track was called from several years ago, which basically was an instruction to give oral sex).? ? ?

of course not, so why is it acceptable in a song?

many music vids are inappropriate for younger viewers too, as it cannot be filtered for kids and as sexual moves have little to do with the track, shouldnt they be clamped down on too?
mushymanrob
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by Glawster2002:
“No we shouldn't have more censorship ot compulsory warnings, what we should do is stop this pathetic "scapegoating" where everyone and anyone is to blame apart from the person, or persons, who actually commits the act.”

..... so its the 9 year olds fault that they watched or listend to a perfectly legal music vid/track?
johnnybgoode83
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by mushymanrob:
“is it acceptable for adult people, 18 - 40 (the main culprits) , to talk to children of pre-teen ages about what they want to do to their female partners? or use filthy language? to recite the lyrics to 'my neck, my back, lick it' (or whatever that repugnant track was called from several years ago, which basically was an instruction to give oral sex).? ? ?

of course not, so why is it acceptable in a song?

many music vids are inappropriate for younger viewers too, as it cannot be filtered for kids and as sexual moves have little to do with the track, shouldnt they be clamped down on too?”

That's where parents need to take some bloody responsibility in monitoring what their children listen to rather than expecting everyone else to do so.
Glawster2002
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by mushymanrob:
“..... so its the 9 year olds fault that they watched or listend to a perfectly legal music vid/track? ”

It is not the 9 year old's fault, and I never said it was.

If a child is allowed access to a track which is unsuitable for their age it's the parents' fault.
mushymanrob
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by johnnybgoode83:
“That's where parents need to take some bloody responsibility in monitoring what their children listen to rather than expecting everyone else to do so.”


Originally Posted by Glawster2002:
“It is not the 9 year old's fault, and I never said it was.

If a child is allowed access to a track which is unsuitable for their age it's the parents' fault.”

ill respond to these together.

how are you going to do that? pop music is everywhere, how can you differentiate between the good and the bad? watch any music tv chanel, or radio prog, theres (mainly) decent tracks but then there will be one whos meaning is blatantly 'adult'. the adult/offensive is inextricably mixed in with the innocent/acceptable.

the other point is, is there really any need for explicit/vulgar/foul mouthed music? (and im talking singles here as its singles kids are most likely to hear) such topics can be dealt with by innuendo, like the beatles did on 'ticket to ride', for eg.
madiain28
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by supertalk:
“Nothing should ever be censored. Leave the finished product and let the consumer experience the material as the director / producer intended it to be. Hearing clean versions of tracks full of soundless gaps is stupid. If a song is deemed too explicit to a radio station then it shouldn't be played.

It's the full responsibility of parents to monitor their child's purchases as well as their internet usage. Blaming Eminem or Lil Wayne is just a cop out for bad parenting.”

Unfortunately we live in a society were many parents take no responsibility not only because they are themselves children bringing up children but it's easier to blame others and pass that responsibility on.
Music heavily influences people I can remember being young and how various artists influenced me making decisions. The fact that so many artists support various organisations and charities does effect what fans think. If this was not the case charities like children in need etc. would not waste their time or effort securing big name acts as it would make no difference to the money raised. Live Aid again used popular artists and their influence to raise millions of pounds from fans and the general public. Whilst the majority of music has positive influence you are always going to get some fans who take any negative words or songs and find their own meaning which can be were the music influenced them in a bad way. Whilst the song or music is not directly responsible for anyone's actions people who already have mental health disorders or suffering from a form of breakdown can easily misinterpret both the artist and the ones meaning.
Artists have a responsibility along with parents and governments to ensure material is age appropriate. Yes radio edits can be annoying but use of foul language on radio and tv needs to be on at n appropriate time just as violence and nudity. How can parents ensure what their child views or listens to if their is no form of age restriction or guidance of what language or material is on a disc, tv, DVD etc.
As for the ridiculous comment of nothing should ever be censored so pornography, pedophilia material, sado masichist material, should all then be readily available without censorship for anybody any age to view listen to.
That's why we have censorship so idiots don't make decisions what's appropriate and inappropriate.
johnnybgoode83
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by mushymanrob:
“ill respond to these together.

how are you going to do that? pop music is everywhere, how can you differentiate between the good and the bad? watch any music tv chanel, or radio prog, theres (mainly) decent tracks but then there will be one whos meaning is blatantly 'adult'. the adult/offensive is inextricably mixed in with the innocent/acceptable.

the other point is, is there really any need for explicit/vulgar/foul mouthed music? (and im talking singles here as its singles kids are most likely to hear) such topics can be dealt with by innuendo, like the beatles did on 'ticket to ride', for eg.”

Who is going to be buying the singles? Children get the money from parents who often take the kids to the shops to buy the music which already has 'explicit' stamped on the cover if there is explicit content.

TV and radio are already covered by broadcasting regulations so there is no work needed their either.
SuperAPJ
07-09-2012
Originally Posted by mushymanrob:
“such topics can be dealt with by innuendo, like the beatles did on 'ticket to ride', for eg.”

Ah, I never realised that was innuendo! However, I've not really listened to the lyrics closely.
Simon Rodgers
08-09-2012
Censorship is not just about removing offensive material it is also about restricting it.

If a music album contains profanity, racism, sex references, drug references, etc, shouldn't they be given certificates like films or video games?

For example an album by 50 Cent rated 18 and no-one under 18 can buy it? 50 Cent does do some very strong stuff!
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