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So in conclusion. The reason nothing is rating well now is cos of the Olympics?!
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6.6 million is poor for CS, esp when last night was so cold. I wonder if we're going to end up like America in the late eighties when the overkill with soaps made people turn away from them and they were pushed into daytime.
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Or maybe the soaps are in bad form at the moment and quality had dipped?
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What ratings did the repeat of Mrs Browns Boys get?
Also, did Miranda benefit from the 680,000 who abandoned Corrie's 20:30 showing week-on-week? Where did the 940,000 people who skipped the 19:30 Corrie go to? Did some choose Cash Britain? The terrestrial competition was almost identical - except Antiques Trip on BBC2 wasn't a celebrity edition, whereas it was last week (according to Digiguide). By the way, total TV viewership was the same in both Corrie slots as last week: 20.9m for 19:30 and 22.8m for 20:30, so we can't blame a general fall-off in viewing. |
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With the exception of a few shows, I personally believe people are desperate for new things to watch. They want fresh looks and fresh ideas. The same old same as schedules are beginning to get tired and dull.
I believe that is exactly why Call The Midwife was a huge success. After years of dull schedule repetition (DOI, LRTC), finally, for the first time in several years along came something different to watch on Sundays. And watch it we did! Will CTM maintain the momentum for series 2? Possibly but schedulers from all the main channels need to look at what and when things are on and maybe freshen up their offerings. It is so boring having soaps on all the time. Emmerdale has just seen five of its most liked characters transform into hideous caricatures of their former selves and the storyline is nasty, unbelievable and bizzare. EastEnders is going through a transgressional period but needs a bomb up its backside to get it going again, and Corrie, well, just too much of a once good thing. Reduce the episodes down a week, show new fresh ideas and put a bit of excitement into TV again. Sky seem to have grasped the concept of variety with their new commissions, so why can't everyone else? Quote:
I don't think there that bad. Especially where Corrie is concerned. Nothing amazing granted. Its definitely been worse put it that way. As for Emmerdale. Its been on a rather bizarre journey this year. Seems odd that everyone has decided to ditch them all at once though. Let's see how the next few weeks goes before any of the soaps goes into crisis mode.
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No non-soap ratings have yet been reported, it seems. I'd like to know if Mrs Brown's Boys managed to improve on last week's 4.63m - was Piers Morgan's interview with Dame Kelly Holmes as strong competition as his chat with Roger Moore last week (3.51m exc +1)?
Also, did Miranda benefit from the 680,000 who abandoned Corrie's 20:30 showing week-on-week? Where did the 940,000 people who skipped the 19:30 Corrie go to? Did some choose Cash Britain? The terrestrial competition was almost identical - except Antiques Trip on BBC2 wasn't a celebrity edition, whereas it was last week (according to Digiguide). By the way, total TV viewership was the same in both Corrie slots as last week: 20.9m for 19:30 and 22.8m for 20:30, so we can't blame a general fall-off in viewing.
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Really don't understand what's happening to the soap ratings. Roscoe's been complaining about the quality of Emmerdale for months, so maybe other viewers are finally getting fed up with the quality. The Kirkwood era dip in quality for EastEnders took a long time to be reflected in the ratings, too. But, why did so many people switch off Coronation St since Monday? ![]() Quote:
And the Channel 5 scheduler has been a bit naughty following Being Liverpool with the film The Dead Pool.
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All-day shares from C4 Sales: BBC 1: 19.1% ITV1 inc +1: 18.2% BBC 2: 6.8% Channel 4 inc +1: 5.9% Five inc +1: 4.4% ITV2 inc +1: 2.4% E4 inc +1: 2.2% ITV3 inc +1: 2.2% More channels:
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A little closer than usual between BBC1 and ITV1. Quote:
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I don't think the soaps are that bad either. Emmerdale is a bit twilight zone-ish at present though. But for EastEnders is likely to improve as the new executive producer is in fully in control now, so things will pro bably get better. Corrie though, too much yet too little.
Cant speak for Corrie but EastEnders feels fresh again, BUT im not sure its going to be enough. It certainly feels like all the soaps have lost their sparkle. |
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And what will they be replaced by? Extended One shows, daytime shows like RIP off Britain or cheap factual shows like Traffic Cops/Cash Britain. I seem to remember you constantly complaining about these shows and Masterchef being in primetime.
The alternative to cheap soap like EE and Waterloo rd is cheap factual. That is the reality of pre watershed budgets. And they could increase the amount of pre-watershed comedy. This would be at the expense of post-watershed comedy, but then something like In With The Flynns doesn't need a post watershed slot. Nor do the likes of Outnumbered or Miranda, They've already moved Would I Lie To You to a pre-watershed slot. All it means is no effing and blinding. The post-watershed gaps would then be filled with the factual and documentary stuff they're having to move from the 10.35 slots. Oh, and they shouldn't be screening Citizen Khan at 10.35 either. If a comedy is designed for a pre-watershed slot then stick it in a pre-watershed slot. All programmes should live or die or their own quality. As Mrs Brown's Boys does, acheiving solid ratings for a repeat run despite having a hopeless lead-in (the second hopeless lead-in this programmes has been lumbered with this year). And maybe BBC1 needs to increase the amount of primetime film repeats it shows. Buy the rights to a few golden oldies (I remenber Oliver being shown one Saturday evening around Christmas one year and getting a big audience). Show a few Carry On films in primetime like they used to do on Saturday nights in the Summer back in the 80s, to respectable ratings. They could hardly do much worse than In With The Flynns does. Or Waterloo Road, come to that. In a time of budget cuts difficult decisions have to be made. But remember the BBC mandate of the moment - DQF Delivering Quality First. And my plan to cut Eastenders to twice a week has only one objective - to increase the quality of and thus the ratings of Eastenders. ("That's two objectives". ) Which is a selfless act on my part, seeing as how I can't stand the programme.
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What did they put on when Eastenders was only on twice a week in the late eighties and early nineties? And what did they put on when Eastenders was on no times a week in the early eighties? If they half Eastenders budget they could use some of the money saved to revive a few old, low-budget quiz shows.
And they could increase the amount of pre-watershed comedy. This would be at the expense of post-watershed comedy, but then something like In With The Flynns doesn't need a post watershed slot. Nor do the likes of Outnumbered or Miranda, They've already moved Would I Lie To You to a pre-watershed slot. All it means is no effing and blinding. The post-watershed gaps would then be filled with the factual and documentary stuff they're having to move from the 10.35 slots. Oh, and they shouldn't be screening Citizen Khan at 10.35 either. If a comedy is designed for a pre-watershed slot then stick it in a pre-watershed slot. All programmes should live or die or their own quality. As Mrs Brown's Boys does, acheiving solid ratings for a repeat run despite having a hopeless lead-in (the second hopeless lead-in this programmes has been lumbered with this year). And maybe BBC1 needs to increase the amount of primetime film repeats it shows. Buy the rights to a few golden oldies (I remenber Oliver being shown one Saturday evening around Christmas one year and getting a big audience). Show a few Carry On films in primetime like they used to do on Saturday nights in the Summer back in the 80s, to respectable ratings. They could hardly do much worse than In With The Flynns does. Or Waterloo Road, come to that. In a time of budget cuts difficult decisions have to be made. But remember the BBC mandate of the moment - DQF Delivering Quality First. And my plan to cut Eastenders to twice a week has only one objective - to increase the quality of and thus the ratings of Eastenders. ("That's two objectives". ) Which is a selfless act on my part, seeing as how I can't stand the programme. ![]() |
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The BBC has only got the rights to a few carry on films, and they wouldn't rate well anyway. Come to think it the only family films in the BBC's library that would do alright have been shown by C5 as part of their deal with Disney, assuming they both still retain the rights to Toy Story, Finding Nemo, Monster's Inc (which of course is on C5 tomorrow), etc.
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The BBC has only got the rights to a few carry on films, and they wouldn't rate well anyway. Come to think it the only family films in the BBC's library that would do alright have been shown by C5 as part of their deal with Disney, assuming they both still retain the rights to Toy Story, Finding Nemo, Monster's Inc (which of course is on C5 tomorrow), etc.
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in what way is it Twilight Zone?
Cant speak for Corrie but EastEnders feels fresh again, BUT im not sure its going to be enough. It certainly feels like all the soaps have lost their sparkle. |
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sounds like something I would say, not sure its happened this quickly however.
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All-day shares from C4 Sales:
BBC 1: 19.1% ITV1 inc +1: 18.2% BBC 2: 6.8% Channel 4 inc +1: 5.9% Five inc +1: 4.4% ITV2 inc +1: 2.4% E4 inc +1: 2.2% ITV3 inc +1: 2.2% More channels:
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I'm not talking about films all year round. Maybe a dozen films a year Wednesdays or Thursdays at 8pm just to help balance the books. And they may not rate brilliantly but it's not as if BBC1 and ITV1 are immune from p**s-poor ratings as things stand.
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The BBC has only got the rights to a few carry on films, and they wouldn't rate well anyway. Come to think it the only family films in the BBC's library that would do alright have been shown by C5 as part of their deal with Disney, assuming they both still retain the rights to Toy Story, Finding Nemo, Monster's Inc (which of course is on C5 tomorrow), etc.
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Still not managed to get the Wolfblood overnights?
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The Carry On franchise, while it has its devoted fans, just isn't big enough for a main channel now. Obviously when they were shown in peak time on BBC and ITV, they were quite recent and had a big following, but now they're a cult item.
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No, but Steve Williams reports that it didn't make the kids' top 10, surprisingly.
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I know, that's why I said they wouldn't do that well....
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Re what they put on before EE:
Radio Times for July 1981: Monday: 8.10 Panorama Tuesday 7.15 Film: Dad's Army Thursday 7.25 Top of the Pops Friday 8.0 Grace Kennedy Sings (repeat) I doubt anyone can remember what ITV put on before Coronation Street Out of interest:The Network Top 20 for 25 November,1962, shows CS occupying the top two places (there were only two episodes a week in those days) with the Monday episode rating 20.218 million and Wednesday 19.925 million. I should point out it was a different ratings system in those days so not comparable with now. |
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We've already seen on Sundays and to a certain extend Wednesdays 7.30 and Thursdays 8.30 how difficult ITV have found replacing the soaps in those slots. I'd personally love them all to go and see a number of new weekly dramas (series rather than continuing serials) filling the slots - but that would be a huge cost and sadly isn't going to happen in the current TV environment.
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And filling pre-watershed hours with cheap gameshows wouldn't sit well with the supposed drive for quality. Yes, 4 x 30 mins of EE is perhaps one episode too many, but it can help other programming (sometimes) by acting as a lead-in and it is UK-produced 'original' drama and so counts towards the drama hours total at a relatively low price.
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