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I predict Homeland will do well on Sundays for Channel4 and good on them for sticking with it at that time even against downton. I think Homeland will beat BBC1's Andrew Marr show some weeks.
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Did Homeland rate well during series 1?
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Did Homeland rate well during series 1?
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No word on how it did here yet but Being Liverpool did enough on FOX last Sunday afternoon to get a run on the network for the rest of the series, rather than just the FOX Soccer Channel.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...on-fox/149640/ The FOX Network also air encores of Premier League games on Sundays if they can fit them in around NFL - be interesting to know how butchered by ads they might be. |
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so Being Liverpool is a US show then?
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Mrs Brown's Boys 4.7m
Piers Morgan's Life Stories 2.9m (3.0m with +1) |
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so Being Liverpool is a US show then?
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Could you not tell from the the framerate and the strange end of part bumper where it just cut off after the voiceover had finished, with nothing more than a logo in the bottom right to signal it?
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I predict Homeland will do well on Sundays for Channel4 and good on them for sticking with it at that time even against downton. I think Homeland will beat BBC1's Andrew Marr show some weeks.
Meanwhile, I do think Marr is set to struggle quite badly. Though it's a different genre to Downton, I'd imagine History of the World would be after lots of the same older ABC1's and there's not going to be many about. I hope I'm wrong because I'd like to see some serious history really stick for BBC One, but I've a feeling it'll be down in the low 3m territory rather quickly. That could turn it into a competitive race with C4, though maybe it'd still be a stretch too far. Quote:
Mrs Brown's Boys 4.7m
Piers Morgan's Life Stories 2.9m (3.0m with +1) |
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Mrs Brown's Boys 4.7m
Piers Morgan's Life Stories 2.9m (3.0m with +1) Thanks for posting this. Mrs Brown's boys continuing to perform well. |
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BBC pilots Tuesday night slot as it takes on ITV in the battle of the costume dramas Quote:
One of Britain's best-loved sitcoms, Are You Being Served?, used the setting of a fictional London department store to lampoon the class system of the 1970s and 80s. Now, a quarter of a century later, the same ingredients are to provide the latest instalments in television's ongoing love affair with period drama.
Both the BBC and ITV are betting millions of pounds on the hunch that viewers will fall in love with two rival costume dramas, set more than a century ago in the grand era of the first department stores. The plots will be based around shopping, corsets, social class and sexual passions on the shopfloor. The first episode of the £8m BBC series, The Paradise, based on an Emile Zola novel and scripted by Bill Gallagher, who made his name with the Sunday night hit Lark Rise to Candleford, will air on Tuesday. The eight episodes tell the story of a fictional store in a north-eastern town, which opens in 1875. Characters range from garrulous female shop assistants to an imperious staff supervisor played by Sarah Lancashire. The scheduling of the series for a Tuesday night reflects a desire to garner Sunday night-style ratings midweek. Danny Cohen, controller of BBC1, told the Observer: "There isn't only one place for period dramas, Sunday nights. The people who watch them don't leave the country on Monday morning. We want to experiment, evolve." But with ITV1's Downton Abbey once again dominating Sunday nights, he admitted it was "definitely a factor" in the decision to make Tuesdays a big drama night for BBC1 in future. "It's not going to harm us, being first," he added. Cohen said he decided to rush The Paradise straight onto the screen after seeing the first rough cuts two months ago. "What we know is that audiences love period drama, all ages do." The early autumn launch of The Paradise has infuriated ITV executives, who last week unveiled their own £10m offering, Mr Selfridge, to a selected audience. A start date for the series has not yet been decided. The series is based on the true story of Harry Gordon Selfridge, a self-made American retailer from Chicago, who pioneered the building of Selfridges in London's Oxford Street in 1909. As in Are You Being Served?, department stores are seen in both productions as a way of bringing together a range of social classes that might not otherwise meet and interact, in particular the shop staff and wealthy upper classes. Lindy Woodhead, an expert on the history of retailing and the author of Shopping, Seduction & Mr Selfridge, the book on which Andrew Davies based the scripts, said : "He [Davies] was right to see that they are really workplace stories, and completely fascinating. I think people loved suddenly to be able to shop in these glamorous places." According to one senior ITV executive, the BBC's early scheduling of The Paradise was a clear spoiling tactic. "They surely decided, come hell or high water, we'll get there first," said the executive. "The BBC is ramping up its competitive urges. To them it's a game. For us it's business." George Entwistle, the new director general of the BBC, attempted to defuse the row, telling the Observer: "The Paradise against Mr Selfridge? Scheduling rows come and go. I don't think it is serious. The truth is we only hear when schedulers fall out. A great deal of sensitive scheduling is going on all the time; we both have a lot of very good programmes. Sometimes we collide." Woodhead said: "I am a little saddened to see The Paradise so clearly brought forward. But I suppose imitation is the best form of flattery. I will be watching on Tuesday – good luck to them." |
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Thanks for these. Piers seems to be struggling with this new series a little. The show had been a pretty consistent performer in the Friday slot, and I thought it was much better suited here than on Saturday. I suppose the guests haven't been all that blockbuster - and thats always going to leave you in a difficult place with a one interview show format!
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Thanks for posting this.
Mrs Brown's boys continuing to perform well. |
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BBC pilots Tuesday night slot as it takes on ITV in the battle of the costume dramas
How high can The Paradise go on Tuesday?
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I think the BBC certainly needs to be looking at moving EE back to 10pm on BBC 3.
I do think BBC 3 repeat should be on at 10 though Quote:
Quoted a previous post of mine in order to reiterate a viewpoint I have regarding the slow decline in soaps. It's not that people are ditching the soaps, I think it's just got a bit boring, like TV watching is a bit like being stuck in a rut but not knowing how to get out of it.
I don't think the soaps are that bad either. Emmerdale is a bit twilight zone-ish at present though. But for EastEnders is likely to improve as the new executive producer is in fully in control now, so things will pro bably get better. Corrie though, too much yet too little. October & November seem massive for the soap The Huge stunt (the biggest in years that they filmed on location) The Gay Wedding 2 very popular characters exits Christmas storylines build up and some huge storylines for characters such as (Syed & Sharon) Lorraine Newman seems to have been listening to fans with the revamp of the vic and having phil back in there. The 'new look' vic (after Peggys exit episode) hasn't gone down to well as it just didn't feel the same but Lorraine listend to fans and has made plans to change it) So who knows Emmerdale of course has the live episode and it's big 40th storylines so i think both will rise and infact all 3 soaps with rise as it gets colder and i think Mid October we will see corrie and EastEnders well above 8m |
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BBC are to be advertising Tuesday night as a night of drama, Eastenders, Holby City and The Paradise, probably hoping to stop being turning to Midsomer Murders. I think the the fact that between their two main channels they'll have 8/9m watching at 8pm, should be enough to prevent Midsomer Murders doing too much damage, but it's good they're making the effort.
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that is not 100% fair, just you wait until Sharons next big storyline comes up, that will see viewers return.
One of EE biggest problems at the moment, is that it does not know what to do with Kat and Alife, personally I never liked Alife, and have liked Kat less since her return, both should be gotten rid of. Meanwhile the EE cast is in too much of a flux, people taking breaks etc, making it hard for the show to plan storylines. On a smaller level I am worried about the Masoods, with one of there number leaving, and Tamwar being so boring, they will need a fresh angle soon. All that said, economics wise, the BBC will save very little by cutting 1 episode of EE, in terms of long running drama, the soaps are as dammed near cost efficient as you can get. Lorraine newman knows EastEnders in side out and has a lot planned. She seems to be using the Characters we all know and love but not allowing others to be sidelined. I think mid October figures will rise. It seems EastEnders first Gay wedding could possibly go out againt Emmerdale LIVE (16th Oct) which will be interesting as Syed/Christian are really popular |
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BBC are to be advertising Tuesday night as a night of drama, Eastenders, Holby City and The Paradise, probably hoping to stop being turning to Midsomer Murders. I think the the fact that between their two main channels they'll have 8/9m watching at 8pm, should be enough to prevent Midsomer Murders doing too much damage, but it's good they're making the effort.
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Well the Football will be on ITV1 alot of Tuesdays now so maybe it's just a reminder as we enter the colder nights and for people not interested by football might watch BBC1
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BBC pilots Tuesday night slot as it takes on ITV in the battle of the costume dramas I see ITV are still claiming that the BBC copied their idea when The Paradise was announced a good eight months before Mr Selfridge.
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Woodhead said: "I am a little saddened to see The Paradise so clearly brought forward. But I suppose imitation is the best form of flattery. I will be watching on Tuesday – good luck to them."
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I see ITV are still claiming that the BBC copied their idea when The Paradise was announced a good eight months before Mr Selfridge.
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The soaps are dying, people have busy lives and no longer feel they can commit many hours per week to repetitive tat, as each year passes viewership declines and no amount of sensationalist stories will reverse the decline.
TV is changing and I still believe that the end is comming for certain soaps, pretty certain that Neighbors/Home and Away will be go from Five within five years, Hollyoaks may be gone within a year or two, Desmond won't waste £30 million a year again onto Aussie imports that should have ended years ago. ITV,BBC ect have woken up to the fact that expensive quality drama is the future, investing in Bill Gallagher,Heidi Thomas ect is the way the drama slate should be heading. |
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Thanks for that. Interesting article with I think both BBC & ITV PR teams contributing to it.
How high can The Paradise go on Tuesday?If Mr Selfridge does air this year I wonder if ITV will use it as a spoiling tactic against Ripper Street which I think is going to be huge for the BBC. Although I'm a Celeb could prevent them from doing that. |
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Mr Selfridge had been in development for a while before The Paradise was announced though.
Mrs Brown really repeat well, bodes well for the Christmas special and series 3. |
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The Paradise had been in development since 2008, I imagine it was going to replace Lark Rise to Candleford before Call the Midwife took off in a big way.
Mrs Brown really repeat well, bodes well for the Christmas special and series 3. It is a little sad that I'm spending by Saturday night looking this stuff up, isn't it?
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X factor avg: 8.2m, peak 9.2m.
Seems low ![]() EDIT: Those figures include +1, so figures actually seem very, very low
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X factor avg: 8.2m, peak 9.2m.
Seems low ![]() 5.5m for Doctor Who. |
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How high can The Paradise go on Tuesday?

