XF could do with the Downton lead-in, and the second part of judges houses always rates better than the first (probably due to the individual performances), so what would you predict for both tonight?
The Ratings Thread (Part 40)
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Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“Because it's Simon Cowell, ratings were at it's best when he was on it judging
The peak will at least come at that point.”
“Because it's Simon Cowell, ratings were at it's best when he was on it judging
The peak will at least come at that point.”
Really? Its a 90 minute show how will people know when to tune in? The peak will come at 8.55 as people tune back in for the start of DA
Originally Posted by garyessex:
“Really? Its a 90 minute show how will people know when to tune in? The peak will come at 8.55 as people tune back in for the start of DA”
“Really? Its a 90 minute show how will people know when to tune in? The peak will come at 8.55 as people tune back in for the start of DA”
Most people will stick around, the others (the extra millions) will probably know from Twitter. But the lot that watched yesterday already know.
Originally Posted by guestofseth:
“Yep, just found this from April 2008: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008...television.bbc and according to this http://www.writersguild.org.uk/news-...gher-interview he brought the book to them when he had his first meeting with the BBC (when he was given Lark Rise.)”
“Yep, just found this from April 2008: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008...television.bbc and according to this http://www.writersguild.org.uk/news-...gher-interview he brought the book to them when he had his first meeting with the BBC (when he was given Lark Rise.)”
Thanks you for clarifying this.
Yet more proof that ITV executives do not have an original idea in their heads. The channel has worked with Bill Gallagher, so it would know exactly what his other commitments would have been.
Also, The Paradise is an adaptation of an Emile Zola novel ... so how on earth can it be an imitation of Mr Selfridge?
The other way round, surely ...? 
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“Most people will stick around, the others (the extra millions) will probably know from Twitter. But the lot that watched yesterday already know.”
“Most people will stick around, the others (the extra millions) will probably know from Twitter. But the lot that watched yesterday already know.”
Surely if people watch because they see it on Twitter it will be too late he'd have already been on and gone...?
I think you're putting too much faith in people giving a shit about Cowell, he's not even judging so there will be no opinions just him saying "hello x you have the girls"
Originally Posted by garyessex:
“Surely if people watch because they see it on Twitter it will be too late he'd have already been on and gone...?
I think you're putting too much faith in people giving a shit about Cowell, he's not even judging so there will be no opinions just him saying "hello x you have the girls"”
“Surely if people watch because they see it on Twitter it will be too late he'd have already been on and gone...?
I think you're putting too much faith in people giving a shit about Cowell, he's not even judging so there will be no opinions just him saying "hello x you have the girls"”
Well, we'll see tomorrow morning how the ratings fare. The whole business with the individual performances, final 24 and the categories could boost the average still.
Oh i have no doubt tonights show will rate better, i just don't think it will be because of a fleeting appearance from the Lord & Master
Why is everything rating low this year? Since the olympics soaps have recovered, but not as much as i thought, last monday the soaps had some solid ratings and then on a cold dark friday evening, corrie was below 7 million. I am really really baffled. Emmerdale is not long off its anniversary and posting mediocre figues. This time of year it should be hitting around 7 million. Corrie is on queue, apart from when its drops like it did friday for some reason.
I think the summer tv and sports events have had some effect, i thought this might happen for some reason.
Last years ratings weren't particularly amazing though tv wise.
I think the summer tv and sports events have had some effect, i thought this might happen for some reason.
Last years ratings weren't particularly amazing though tv wise.
I have a Friday rating for you. Baggage on Channel 4 was watched by 1m including +1. About 2m too high.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“The fact that ITV are annoyed BBC1 are showing The Paradise first suggests to me that we are just weeks away from the launch of Mr Selfridge.”
“The fact that ITV are annoyed BBC1 are showing The Paradise first suggests to me that we are just weeks away from the launch of Mr Selfridge.”
One article claims that Mr Selfridge filmed 10episodes but will be screened as two separate series of 5episodes: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...the-shop-floor
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“I have a Friday rating for you. Baggage on Channel 4 was watched by 1m including +1. About 2m too high.”
“I have a Friday rating for you. Baggage on Channel 4 was watched by 1m including +1. About 2m too high.”
It did well to get 0.9m (inc +1) for its rapid repeat at 19:15 last night then.
Originally Posted by crazyguyz999:
“Why is everything rating low this year? Since the olympics soaps have recovered, but not as much as i thought, last monday the soaps had some solid ratings and then on a cold dark friday evening, corrie was below 7 million. I am really really baffled. Emmerdale is not long off its anniversary and posting mediocre figues. This time of year it should be hitting around 7 million. Corrie is on queue, apart from when its drops like it did friday for some reason.
I think the summer tv and sports events have had some effect, i thought this might happen for some reason.
Last years ratings weren't particularly amazing though tv wise.”
“Why is everything rating low this year? Since the olympics soaps have recovered, but not as much as i thought, last monday the soaps had some solid ratings and then on a cold dark friday evening, corrie was below 7 million. I am really really baffled. Emmerdale is not long off its anniversary and posting mediocre figues. This time of year it should be hitting around 7 million. Corrie is on queue, apart from when its drops like it did friday for some reason.
I think the summer tv and sports events have had some effect, i thought this might happen for some reason.
Last years ratings weren't particularly amazing though tv wise.”
I'm not sure why the Olympics would still be having an effect. I just see this year as the latest in an overall decline in ratings - the figures might be artificially bumped up because bbc1 was getting over 10m primetime averages for the 2 weeks of the Olympics but the decline, as you point out is still there.
Purely because I like seeing a table from highest to lowest.
Saturday Overnights
1 …. 8.2 (35.7%) …. The X Factor 20:15 ITV 1
2 …. 5.5 (25.6%) …. Doctor Who 19:30 BBC One
3 …. 4.0 (17.7%) …. Casualty 21:15 BBC One
4 …. 3.8 (19.1%) …. BBC News 22:00 BBC One
5 …. 3.7 (17.5%) …. Red or Black? 19:30 ITV 1
6 …. 3.4 (23.1%) …. Match of the Day 22:15 BBC One
7 …. 3.3 (14.6%) …. The National Lottery: Secret Fortune 20:15 BBC One
8 …. 3.2 (15.7%) …. Red or Black? 21:45 ITV 1
9 …. 3.2 (18.5%) …. Total Wipeout 18:30 BBC One
10 … 2.8 (16.8%) …. New You've Been Framed! 18:30 ITV 1
11 …. 2.7 (18.7%) …. Regional News and Weather / A Question of Sport: Extreme 17:45 BBC One
12 …. 2.5 (14.4%) …. Fool Britannia 19:00 ITV 1
13 …. 2.4 (19.4%) …. BBC News 17:30 BBC One
14 …. 2.3 (14.8%) …. ITV News & Weather 18:15 ITV 1
15 …. 2.1 (14.7%) …. London Tonight 18:00 ITV 1
16 …. 2.0 (23.0%) …. Formula 1: The Singapore Grand Prix - Qualifying 13:00 BBC One
17 …. 2.0 (12.9%) …. The Jonathan Ross Show 22:30 ITV 1
18 …. 1.9 ( 8.4%) …. Comedy World Cup 20:15 Channel 4
19 …. 1.9 ( 8.8%) …. Dad's Army 19:45 BBC Two
20 … 1.7 (15.5%) …. Final Score 16:30 BBC One
21 … 1.6 (22.9%) …. Saturday Kitchen Live 10:00 BBC One
22 … 1.6 ( 7.9%) …. Flog It! Travels Around Britain 19:30 BBC Two
23 … 1.4 ( 8.4%) …. Antiques Road Trip 18:30 BBC Two
24 … 1.4 ( 6.7%) …. The Million Pound Drop Live 21:15 Channel 4
25 … 1.4 (20.9%) …. BBC News / Regional News and Weather 12:00 BBC One
26 … 1.3 ( 8.3%) …. Come Dine with Me: Ireland 18:15 Channel 4
27 … 1.3 (20.1%) …. Lorraine's Fast, Fresh & Easy Food 11:30 BBC One
28 … 1.3 ( 5.6%) …. QI XL 21:15 BBC Two
29 … 1.3 (18.1%) …. Football Focus 12:15 BBC One
30 … 1.3 (11.1%) …. Bean 16:15 ITV 1
31 … 1.2 (29.1%) …. Breakfast 06:00 BBC One
32 … 1.2 ( 8.6%) …. Come Dine with Me: Ireland 17:45 Channel 4
33 … 1.1 (15.2%) …. The Football League Show 23:45 BBC One
34 … 1.1 ( 8.8%) …. Come Dine with Me: Ireland 17:15 Channel 4
35 … 1.1 ( 5.8%) …. CSI: Miami 22:00 Five
36 … 1.0 ( 5.0%) …. The Thick of It 22:00 BBC Two
37 … 0.9 ( 8.4%) …. ITV News & Weather 23:30 ITV 1
38 … 0.9 ( 4.3%) …. Baggage 19:15 Channel 4
39 … 0.9 ( 5.8%) …. The Battle of the Bulge 16:45 Five
40 … 0.8 ( 9.5%) …. Cycling: World Road Championships 15:30 BBC One
41 … 0.8 ( 7.4%) …. Come Dine with Me: Ireland 16:45 Channel 4
42 … 0.8 ( 4.7%) …. Channel 4 News 18:45 Channel 4
43 … 0.8 ( 8.1%) …. Predator 22:45 Channel 4
44 … 0.8 ( 3.4%) …. Maverick 19:45 Five
45 … 0.7 ( 7.5%) …. Every Which Way But Loose 14:15 ITV 1
46 … 0.6 ( 2.9%) …. This World: Aung San Suu Kyi - The Choice 20:15 BBC Two
47 … 0.6 ( 7.8%) …. All Star Family Fortunes 12:30 ITV 1
48 … 0.5 ( 4.1%) …. One Man and His Dog 17:15 BBC Two
49 … 0.5 ( 7.9%) …. ITV News & Weather 12:15 ITV 1
50 … 0.5 ( 6.3%) …. Murder, She Wrote 13:15 ITV 1
Saturday Overnights
1 …. 8.2 (35.7%) …. The X Factor 20:15 ITV 1
2 …. 5.5 (25.6%) …. Doctor Who 19:30 BBC One
3 …. 4.0 (17.7%) …. Casualty 21:15 BBC One
4 …. 3.8 (19.1%) …. BBC News 22:00 BBC One
5 …. 3.7 (17.5%) …. Red or Black? 19:30 ITV 1
6 …. 3.4 (23.1%) …. Match of the Day 22:15 BBC One
7 …. 3.3 (14.6%) …. The National Lottery: Secret Fortune 20:15 BBC One
8 …. 3.2 (15.7%) …. Red or Black? 21:45 ITV 1
9 …. 3.2 (18.5%) …. Total Wipeout 18:30 BBC One
10 … 2.8 (16.8%) …. New You've Been Framed! 18:30 ITV 1
11 …. 2.7 (18.7%) …. Regional News and Weather / A Question of Sport: Extreme 17:45 BBC One
12 …. 2.5 (14.4%) …. Fool Britannia 19:00 ITV 1
13 …. 2.4 (19.4%) …. BBC News 17:30 BBC One
14 …. 2.3 (14.8%) …. ITV News & Weather 18:15 ITV 1
15 …. 2.1 (14.7%) …. London Tonight 18:00 ITV 1
16 …. 2.0 (23.0%) …. Formula 1: The Singapore Grand Prix - Qualifying 13:00 BBC One
17 …. 2.0 (12.9%) …. The Jonathan Ross Show 22:30 ITV 1
18 …. 1.9 ( 8.4%) …. Comedy World Cup 20:15 Channel 4
19 …. 1.9 ( 8.8%) …. Dad's Army 19:45 BBC Two
20 … 1.7 (15.5%) …. Final Score 16:30 BBC One
21 … 1.6 (22.9%) …. Saturday Kitchen Live 10:00 BBC One
22 … 1.6 ( 7.9%) …. Flog It! Travels Around Britain 19:30 BBC Two
23 … 1.4 ( 8.4%) …. Antiques Road Trip 18:30 BBC Two
24 … 1.4 ( 6.7%) …. The Million Pound Drop Live 21:15 Channel 4
25 … 1.4 (20.9%) …. BBC News / Regional News and Weather 12:00 BBC One
26 … 1.3 ( 8.3%) …. Come Dine with Me: Ireland 18:15 Channel 4
27 … 1.3 (20.1%) …. Lorraine's Fast, Fresh & Easy Food 11:30 BBC One
28 … 1.3 ( 5.6%) …. QI XL 21:15 BBC Two
29 … 1.3 (18.1%) …. Football Focus 12:15 BBC One
30 … 1.3 (11.1%) …. Bean 16:15 ITV 1
31 … 1.2 (29.1%) …. Breakfast 06:00 BBC One
32 … 1.2 ( 8.6%) …. Come Dine with Me: Ireland 17:45 Channel 4
33 … 1.1 (15.2%) …. The Football League Show 23:45 BBC One
34 … 1.1 ( 8.8%) …. Come Dine with Me: Ireland 17:15 Channel 4
35 … 1.1 ( 5.8%) …. CSI: Miami 22:00 Five
36 … 1.0 ( 5.0%) …. The Thick of It 22:00 BBC Two
37 … 0.9 ( 8.4%) …. ITV News & Weather 23:30 ITV 1
38 … 0.9 ( 4.3%) …. Baggage 19:15 Channel 4
39 … 0.9 ( 5.8%) …. The Battle of the Bulge 16:45 Five
40 … 0.8 ( 9.5%) …. Cycling: World Road Championships 15:30 BBC One
41 … 0.8 ( 7.4%) …. Come Dine with Me: Ireland 16:45 Channel 4
42 … 0.8 ( 4.7%) …. Channel 4 News 18:45 Channel 4
43 … 0.8 ( 8.1%) …. Predator 22:45 Channel 4
44 … 0.8 ( 3.4%) …. Maverick 19:45 Five
45 … 0.7 ( 7.5%) …. Every Which Way But Loose 14:15 ITV 1
46 … 0.6 ( 2.9%) …. This World: Aung San Suu Kyi - The Choice 20:15 BBC Two
47 … 0.6 ( 7.8%) …. All Star Family Fortunes 12:30 ITV 1
48 … 0.5 ( 4.1%) …. One Man and His Dog 17:15 BBC Two
49 … 0.5 ( 7.9%) …. ITV News & Weather 12:15 ITV 1
50 … 0.5 ( 6.3%) …. Murder, She Wrote 13:15 ITV 1
So TXF has recorded its lowest bootcamp figure since 2007, when a two-parter split around Ant and Dec's SNT achieved 6.8m/28% at 18:05 (directly against Strictly) and 7.2m/33% at 20:30.
Perhaps the Olympics may have opened peoples minds that there is more to life than watching stunt-driven reality shows?
Quote:
“18 …. 1.9 ( 8.4%) …. Comedy World Cup 20:15 Channel 4”
“18 …. 1.9 ( 8.4%) …. Comedy World Cup 20:15 Channel 4”
I'm slightly annoyed that this has worked out
Must worry ITV though; the shows taken off quite spectacularly against X Factor.
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“One article claims that Mr Selfridge filmed 10episodes but will be screened as two separate series of 5episodes: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...the-shop-floor”
“One article claims that Mr Selfridge filmed 10episodes but will be screened as two separate series of 5episodes: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...the-shop-floor”
Looks like Mr Selfridge is being held for round about Xmas. Time for re-runs of Are You Being Served ?
Originally Posted by Jay Lee:
“5.5m for Doctor Who just goes to show that it benefits from a strong lead-in (following the Strictly premiere last week, it got 6.5m), which Total Wipeout does not provide.”
“5.5m for Doctor Who just goes to show that it benefits from a strong lead-in (following the Strictly premiere last week, it got 6.5m), which Total Wipeout does not provide.”
Honestly Strictly didn't matter. The only places where the show gained significantly were in the +44 group. Not the target audience; it was actually basically stable in all other age groups; little difference. I'd argue its not the best match for Strictly and another show would have held onto the older audience better (such as Merlin).
To 'Who' overall Strictly is more a vain bump; it looks nice but overall means little. As seen by the fact they don't switch on the next week. Don't get to obsessed with the lead in - and Wipeout is a decent lead in (especially compared to recent years).
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“'The Power of Three' was also a bit of a filler episode, building up to next week's exit for Amy and Rory... though I have to say I really enjoyed it and it reminded me of a Russell T Davies episode. Lovely scene between Amy and the Doctor chatting against the backdrop of London at night.”
“'The Power of Three' was also a bit of a filler episode, building up to next week's exit for Amy and Rory... though I have to say I really enjoyed it and it reminded me of a Russell T Davies episode. Lovely scene between Amy and the Doctor chatting against the backdrop of London at night.”
Not to go on a rant about last nights episode but I think this is unfair to RTD
Originally Posted by grimshaw:
“I'm slightly annoyed that this has worked out
Must worry ITV though; the shows taken off quite spectacularly against X Factor.”
“I'm slightly annoyed that this has worked out
Must worry ITV though; the shows taken off quite spectacularly against X Factor.”
Yes, a 133%+ rise in both viewership and share in its second week is quite impressive. I've still got last week's recorded so I don't know if it's actually any good but word-of-mouth must have helped it achieve such a good (and unexpected) increase.
Originally Posted by garyessex:
“Perhaps the Olympics may have opened peoples minds that there is more to life than watching stunt-driven reality shows?”
“Perhaps the Olympics may have opened peoples minds that there is more to life than watching stunt-driven reality shows?”
Yep, I think, and hope, this is it. People have been watching real drama with hard-working dedicated people, not a contrived mess.
To be fair though it's only a couple of million that have turned off, but I'm hoping they'll stay away.
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“That's well worth posting twice.”
“That's well worth posting twice.
”
I had to make sure it was noticed. Like with Mrs Brown's Boys in series one more people saw it the second time.
Originally Posted by seansnotmyname@:
“Yep, I think, and hope, this is it. People have been watching real drama with hard-working dedicated people, not a contrived mess.
To be fair though it's only a couple of million that have turned off, but I'm hoping they'll stay away.”
“Yep, I think, and hope, this is it. People have been watching real drama with hard-working dedicated people, not a contrived mess.
To be fair though it's only a couple of million that have turned off, but I'm hoping they'll stay away.”
Factor that in with the soaps being a couple of million down on what you'd expect for September and perhaps we're seeing a shift away from mindless spoonfed TV
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“So barely 8m for TXF, maybe even high 7s once we unaggregate! :O
What's the official excuse this week then?”
“So barely 8m for TXF, maybe even high 7s once we unaggregate! :O
What's the official excuse this week then?”
Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“As I said yesterday. Let's just blame the Olympics.”
“As I said yesterday. Let's just blame the Olympics.”
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“The weather? People were busy gritting their driveways and propping up their fences following the Daily Express headlines of 85mph winds and Arctic weather sweeping in from the north”
“The weather? People were busy gritting their driveways and propping up their fences following the Daily Express headlines of 85mph winds and Arctic weather sweeping in from the north”
Originally Posted by mossy2103:
“Ah, people out gritting driveways, lagging pipes, bringing in tender plants .......
”
“Ah, people out gritting driveways, lagging pipes, bringing in tender plants .......
”
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Sunshine and the Olympics?
On a cold pitch dark autumn night a month after the Games ended, I'd love to know the twisted ITVista logic for those!”
“Sunshine and the Olympics?
On a cold pitch dark autumn night a month after the Games ended, I'd love to know the twisted ITVista logic for those!”
Isn't the reason it rated lower last night was because it was Boot Camp. I thought it was established that that always rated lower.
Sir Brucie will be chomping at the bit, anxious to get started after seeing last night's figures. He'll be smelling blood.
Originally Posted by James J:
“Low, low, low, everything seems low!!!
Where have all the viewers gone?
I want Doctor Who to be getting 7 million, it deserves it!
It was freezing last night so quite how anyone can say the weather has shored down X Factor baffles me. It's still winning the night by a large margin, but it's by no means the powerhouse it was 2 years ago now.
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“Low, low, low, everything seems low!!!
Where have all the viewers gone?
I want Doctor Who to be getting 7 million, it deserves it!
It was freezing last night so quite how anyone can say the weather has shored down X Factor baffles me. It's still winning the night by a large margin, but it's by no means the powerhouse it was 2 years ago now.
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TV viewing habits seem to have changed this year. As you said was a freezing cold night last night. Yet shows are rating less than in the summer.
What is on at 20:00 that could destroy The X Factor ratings tonight? Even the BBC News Channel is step up from The X Factor 
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