I will go for 10.2m for X Factor tonight.
The Ratings Thread (Part 40)
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Feels like another very strong X Factor show tonight - I do think the quality has improved drastically over the last three weeks.
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“I will go for 10.2m for X Factor tonight.”
“I will go for 10.2m for X Factor tonight.”
2m more viewers than last Saturday? I dont think that'll be happening! Unless you meant peak.
Doctor Who had A stunning end to it's run by the way. I hope it's overnight is over 6m. I would argue it was one off the best episodes off the show since it returned in 2005. Don't get me wrong it was not the best but it was very good.
Sadly I do not think it will get over 6m in the overnight's. Not with total Wipeout as a lead in. Doctor Who has had a good run this year. Well done to them.
Ken
Sadly I do not think it will get over 6m in the overnight's. Not with total Wipeout as a lead in. Doctor Who has had a good run this year. Well done to them.
Ken
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“Of interest, BBC Four are showing a drama documentary about the life of Kenny Everett and two of his shows on Wednesday. As Kenny's shows haven't been shown on terrestrial for decades, I reckon BBC Four should have a high audience for this.”
“Of interest, BBC Four are showing a drama documentary about the life of Kenny Everett and two of his shows on Wednesday. As Kenny's shows haven't been shown on terrestrial for decades, I reckon BBC Four should have a high audience for this.”
The evening starts at 8pm with a 1973 episode of Top Of The Pops presented by Everett. I didn't even know he had presented any episodes. Looking forward to watching it.
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“I would be very surprised if Sky let that happen.
No point launching the 007 channel, with all the movies exclusive to them, if they allow the new one, to air on terrestrial TV, at any point.
Sky will just buy all the rights to Skyfall, and never let it air on terrestrial TV.
TBH I would not put it past them, to stop is airing in the cinema.”
“I would be very surprised if Sky let that happen.
No point launching the 007 channel, with all the movies exclusive to them, if they allow the new one, to air on terrestrial TV, at any point.
Sky will just buy all the rights to Skyfall, and never let it air on terrestrial TV.
TBH I would not put it past them, to stop is airing in the cinema.”
That's how all their movie channels work though - Sky have the initial rights then after a year or three they premiere on terrestrial TV. Sky's Bond deal is only one year long anyway - though I can't see their being much value in it as surely any Bond fan has seen them all already either on ITV or on DVD and certainly isn't going to subscribe to Sky just because they have Bond for a year.
Originally Posted by fodg09:
“Feels like another very strong X Factor show tonight - I do think the quality has improved drastically over the last three weeks.”
“Feels like another very strong X Factor show tonight - I do think the quality has improved drastically over the last three weeks.”
Always picks up at Boot Camp and a good show tonight with all categories strong. The first chance too for Nicole to get some serious airtime.
Skipped through the US version earlier too - kind of says it all about the show that half of their "this season" promo seemed to be shots of contestants getting violent/hospitalized/arrested.
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“That's how all their movie channels work though - Sky have the initial rights then after a year or three they premiere on terrestrial TV. Sky's Bond deal is only one year long anyway - though I can't see their being much value in it as surely any Bond fan has seen them all already either on ITV or on DVD and certainly isn't going to subscribe to Sky just because they have Bond for a year..”
“That's how all their movie channels work though - Sky have the initial rights then after a year or three they premiere on terrestrial TV. Sky's Bond deal is only one year long anyway - though I can't see their being much value in it as surely any Bond fan has seen them all already either on ITV or on DVD and certainly isn't going to subscribe to Sky just because they have Bond for a year..”
good point about the 1 year thing, does make the whole thing seem a little pointless. If however the contract was extended, I would fully expect any future Bond movies to never air on terrestrial TV.
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“You lot are so interested in the bore factor getting over 10m viewers:yawn:”
“You lot are so interested in the bore factor getting over 10m viewers:yawn:”
as far as I am concerned it can get 3 million, and start up the Saturday Night Flop Zone.
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“good point about the 1 year thing, does make the whole thing seem a little pointless. If however the contract was extended, I would fully expect any future Bond movies to never air on terrestrial TV.”
“good point about the 1 year thing, does make the whole thing seem a little pointless. If however the contract was extended, I would fully expect any future Bond movies to never air on terrestrial TV.”
Why would a film distributor not want to sell its product to a FTA channel once it's been through the various PPV, subscription or on demand windows?
It's not for Sky or any other company to tell them who they can sell to.
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Why would a film distributor not want to sell its product to a FTA channel once it's been through the various PPV, subscription or on demand windows?
It's not for Sky or any other company to tell them who they can sell to.”
“Why would a film distributor not want to sell its product to a FTA channel once it's been through the various PPV, subscription or on demand windows?
It's not for Sky or any other company to tell them who they can sell to.”
ok lets says Sky sign a 20 year deal, to make Bond movies exclusive to themselves, and set up a channel to air them.
Why would Sky want any new movies produced in those 20 years, to air on terrestrial TV.
As for why a film distributor not want to sell the free to air rights, it would still sell them, it would just sell them to Sky, who will just not use them.
This is exactly like they have done with most if not all of the US shows, Sky buy (often have 2 or 3 series on UK TV) as shown by SOME of them airing on Sky Three (Pick TV).
The channel is a one month marketing stunt, not a major new investment. Movies almost without exception get a box office airing first, then a subscription airing and finally a free to air outing - there is no reason Bond would be any different.
On the other hand though BSkyB will announce on Monday that Santa will only visit the houses of those who subscribe to Sky Movies Christmas as part of a new 20 year deal.
On the other hand though BSkyB will announce on Monday that Santa will only visit the houses of those who subscribe to Sky Movies Christmas as part of a new 20 year deal.
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“The channel is a one month marketing stunt, not a major new investment. Movies almost without exception get a box office airing first, then a subscription airing and finally a free to air outing - there is no reason Bond would be any different.”
“The channel is a one month marketing stunt, not a major new investment. Movies almost without exception get a box office airing first, then a subscription airing and finally a free to air outing - there is no reason Bond would be any different.”
yes fair enough the 1 year contract makes this channel a little worthless, but if it was a long term contract do you really think Sky would not stop the new movies airing on terrestrial TV?
I am not sky fanboy, but if I was in the position of signing a long term contract to make all pass Bonds movies exclusive to me, I would be asking myself if it was worthwhile, if the new movies were not included in the deal.
That said when Sky signed the exclusive deal with HBO, they failed to prevent HBO from doing co-productions with UK channels, so they h ave made mistakes in the past.
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“2m more viewers than last Saturday? I dont think that'll be happening! Unless you meant peak.”
“2m more viewers than last Saturday? I dont think that'll be happening! Unless you meant peak.”
Possibly, Sunday got over 9m, so the obsession of Cheryl may boost it.
Forecasting X Factor...
Vs 2011:
Down 15% - 8.8m
Down 20% - 8.2m
Down 25% - 7.7m
Typically the Saturday judges houses rates a bit better than the Saturday bootcamp. Although in 2011 the two episodes rated the same. In 2010 there was a 5% week on week improvement which would mean 8.7m this year. In 2009 there was a 10% week on week improvement which would mean 9.1m (which would be down 12% y-o-y).
If it rates over 10m then Cheryl Cole can probably name her price to return next year but while she might help a bit, it's a relatively small part. Finding 2m viewers in a week would be quite remarkable. And it would mean the ratings would match last years equivalent episodes when some ratings have been down as much as 25%.
I think about 8.7m/8.8m would be a good number, up on last week and reducing the year on year gap. Anything below 8.3m would be bad.
All including +1
Typically the big judges houses episode is the Sunday results. Last year that was up 1m on the Sunday bootcamp show.
PS: The moves behind Cheryl's surprise return get clearer by the day. Simon Cowell & Will.i.am are suddenly BFF's and according to The Sun they're working on some show for aspiring tech moguls like Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg. Cowell tweeted the other day that Syco have had a new series picked up, but no word on whether or not this is it (or if it's for ITV or a US network). In better news, that weird DJ talent show thing they were doing with Jada Pinkett and Will Smith's company is being ditched.
Vs 2011:
Down 15% - 8.8m
Down 20% - 8.2m
Down 25% - 7.7m
Typically the Saturday judges houses rates a bit better than the Saturday bootcamp. Although in 2011 the two episodes rated the same. In 2010 there was a 5% week on week improvement which would mean 8.7m this year. In 2009 there was a 10% week on week improvement which would mean 9.1m (which would be down 12% y-o-y).
If it rates over 10m then Cheryl Cole can probably name her price to return next year but while she might help a bit, it's a relatively small part. Finding 2m viewers in a week would be quite remarkable. And it would mean the ratings would match last years equivalent episodes when some ratings have been down as much as 25%.
I think about 8.7m/8.8m would be a good number, up on last week and reducing the year on year gap. Anything below 8.3m would be bad.
All including +1
Typically the big judges houses episode is the Sunday results. Last year that was up 1m on the Sunday bootcamp show.
PS: The moves behind Cheryl's surprise return get clearer by the day. Simon Cowell & Will.i.am are suddenly BFF's and according to The Sun they're working on some show for aspiring tech moguls like Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg. Cowell tweeted the other day that Syco have had a new series picked up, but no word on whether or not this is it (or if it's for ITV or a US network). In better news, that weird DJ talent show thing they were doing with Jada Pinkett and Will Smith's company is being ditched.
Link (Article): http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2012/09/...and-final.html
Link (Rank): http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2012/09/...mber-2012.html
With a nail-biting match yesterday, the AFL Grand Final reached 3.196m for their high with the Presentation (which is the trophy ceremony, I think). The match itself, which started around 2:30pm had a whopping 2.937m. In Melbourne, 1.406m watched the presentation and the match attracted 1.331m. This was the highest OzTAM rated Grand Final since 2005 with 3.39m.
Other AFL coverage ratings yesterday:
Post Match - 2.349m (1.081m in Melbourne)
On The Ground - 1.931m (1.015m in Melbourne)
Pre-Match - 1.355m (758k in Melbourne)
Seven's AFL coverage and Seven News dominated the key adult demos Top 5 for the day (18-49, 25-54, 16-39).
Link (Rank): http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2012/09/...mber-2012.html
With a nail-biting match yesterday, the AFL Grand Final reached 3.196m for their high with the Presentation (which is the trophy ceremony, I think). The match itself, which started around 2:30pm had a whopping 2.937m. In Melbourne, 1.406m watched the presentation and the match attracted 1.331m. This was the highest OzTAM rated Grand Final since 2005 with 3.39m.
Other AFL coverage ratings yesterday:
Post Match - 2.349m (1.081m in Melbourne)
On The Ground - 1.931m (1.015m in Melbourne)
Pre-Match - 1.355m (758k in Melbourne)
Seven's AFL coverage and Seven News dominated the key adult demos Top 5 for the day (18-49, 25-54, 16-39).
Originally Posted by paltonz:
“Link (Article): http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2012/09/...and-final.html
Link (Rank): http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2012/09/...mber-2012.html
With a nail-biting match yesterday, the AFL Grand Final reached 3.196m for their high with the Presentation (which is the trophy ceremony, I think). The match itself, which started around 2:30pm had a whopping 2.937m. In Melbourne, 1.406m watched the presentation and the match attracted 1.331m. This was the highest OzTAM rated Grand Final since 2005 with 3.39m.
Other AFL coverage ratings yesterday:
Post Match - 2.349m (1.081m in Melbourne)
On The Ground - 1.931m (1.015m in Melbourne)
Pre-Match - 1.355m (758k in Melbourne)
Seven's AFL coverage and Seven News dominated the key adult demos Top 5 for the day (18-49, 25-54, 16-39).”
“Link (Article): http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2012/09/...and-final.html
Link (Rank): http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2012/09/...mber-2012.html
With a nail-biting match yesterday, the AFL Grand Final reached 3.196m for their high with the Presentation (which is the trophy ceremony, I think). The match itself, which started around 2:30pm had a whopping 2.937m. In Melbourne, 1.406m watched the presentation and the match attracted 1.331m. This was the highest OzTAM rated Grand Final since 2005 with 3.39m.
Other AFL coverage ratings yesterday:
Post Match - 2.349m (1.081m in Melbourne)
On The Ground - 1.931m (1.015m in Melbourne)
Pre-Match - 1.355m (758k in Melbourne)
Seven's AFL coverage and Seven News dominated the key adult demos Top 5 for the day (18-49, 25-54, 16-39).”
Collosal figures for an afternoon match, though having the swans in the final clearly was the reason for the high figures, meaning people in Sydney had reason to watch.
The NRL today also sees a NSW team play a VIC team, but I don't expect the numbers to be as high as the AFL. Sunday Evening should be a better slot, but AFL is the true national sport played in all 5 cities (even if it is utter rubbish) and the absense of a Queensland team in the NRL final makes it less likely to rate any better than the State of Origin (which got about 2.5m I think). The lack of people watching in Perth and Adelaide is likely to be the deciding factor
With regards other figures yesterday in primetime Nine's repeat showing of the Goblet of Fire was almost beaten by 7TWO's repeat of heartbeat. Doctor Who got just 565k but the repeat marathon on ABC2 usually does around 200k every week night and I think the iview figures before the show airs were around 180,000. No longer capable of getting 1m but it still has its fan base.
And yet another UK series did well on Seven last night, Dynamo got 1.09m which is really impressive for a Saturday night (but the news lead in of 1.88m will have helped greatly)
Jenny Cummins @jscummins
X Factor Ratings - Peak audience of 9.7m (average 8.7m) - figures include +1
9:37 AM - 30 Sep 12
Bang on what C14E said.
Colin Robertson @Cod_Rob
RATINGS: #XFactor 9.2 million peak (minus + 1). 6.3 million watch Amy Pond bow out on Doctor Who.
9:36 AM - 30 Sep 12
Edit - average for Who was 5.9m.
X Factor Ratings - Peak audience of 9.7m (average 8.7m) - figures include +1
9:37 AM - 30 Sep 12
Bang on what C14E said.
Colin Robertson @Cod_Rob
RATINGS: #XFactor 9.2 million peak (minus + 1). 6.3 million watch Amy Pond bow out on Doctor Who.
9:36 AM - 30 Sep 12
Edit - average for Who was 5.9m.
Originally Posted by soupnazi:
“X Factor- 8.7m 37.7% inc HD and +1
ITV1+1 was 0.4m 2.0%
source: digital i)”
“X Factor- 8.7m 37.7% inc HD and +1
ITV1+1 was 0.4m 2.0%
source: digital i)”
Better for X Factor this week, should climb more tonight and hopefully the momentum will continue for lives.
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“That said when Sky signed the exclusive deal with HBO, they failed to prevent HBO from doing co-productions with UK channels, so they h ave made mistakes in the past.”
“That said when Sky signed the exclusive deal with HBO, they failed to prevent HBO from doing co-productions with UK channels, so they h ave made mistakes in the past.”
Is that a mistake? I don't expect HBO would have wanted to give up its creative freedom.
Would critical hit, but on the whole ratings failure, Parade's End seen the light of day without BBC money?
Anyway, it was a deal to show programmes, not make them.
Solid for The X Factor there. We can talk about how it's down year on year every week but there's nothing new there. In terms of this series that's respectable enough, and it is a smaller year on year decline than other Saturday shows this year. It was up +0.5m on last week too whereas last year's Saturday JH show didn't increase on bootcamp at all. I wonder if it'll manage to crack 10m tonight?
Good rating for Doctor Who. Part of me was expecting slightly more for such a big episode but it's nothing to worry about and we all know there will be one hell of a timeshift anyway.
Good rating for Doctor Who. Part of me was expecting slightly more for such a big episode but it's nothing to worry about and we all know there will be one hell of a timeshift anyway.
So, 8.3m for TXF. Up a smidge, but pretty tragic for the self-proclaimed "biggest show on television".
Strictly is going to smash it out of the park.
Strictly is going to smash it out of the park.
Red or Black: 3.5m inc +1 at 19:15
Casualty: 3.7m
http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2012/09...ings.html.html
Casualty: 3.7m
http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2012/09...ings.html.html
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