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Old 12-09-2012, 13:37
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Rolf Harris to make TV return on Channel 5 in new show Rolf's Animal Clinic:

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Old 12-09-2012, 14:23
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BT acquires exclusive Aviva Premiership rights for £152m from 2013/14 season, denying both ESPN and Sky:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...-espn-sky.html
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Old 12-09-2012, 14:26
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Rolf Harris to make TV return on Channel 5 in new show Rolf's Animal Clinic:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...channel-5.html
So Channel 5 are just remaking Animal Hospital then? Not an entirely terrible decision I suppose it was bafflingly popular first time around.

BT acquires exclusive Aviva Premiership rights for £152m from 2013/14 season, denying both ESPN and Sky:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...-espn-sky.html
BT are really pushing out the boat then. Be interesting to see if this actually works and if they have any more luck than other Sky (Sports) competitors.
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Old 12-09-2012, 15:03
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Pretty decent for the football. 5.7m is much better than last Friday's 4.0m rating. HC and GBBO held up remarkably well considering - but the demos for all shows are probably completely different which would explain the good ratings. EE and Emmerdale did OK. I'd like to see them building every week now. EE getting 8m+ and Emmerdale moving into the 7's as we approach the 40th Anniversary next month!

Also - looks like Robbie has stuck to his word so far! Nothing from him since he said he was going to leave. And with GeorgeS gone too - who's going to fill these gaps?!
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Old 12-09-2012, 15:50
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As mentioned, the special programmes for Rosh Hashanah are always shown very late because they're religious programmes first and foremost and therefore of minority interest. This is actually one of the earliest it's ever been, I think. Same reason why Songs of Praise isn't in primetime.
I see. Bit of a shame, as there was a debate between the rabbi and Richard Dawkins, who's always good value.
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Old 12-09-2012, 15:53
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How many viewers did Person of Interest get yesterday?
Person of Interest: 940k/4.0% (+1: 175k/1.05%). According to Broadcast, a series low. Maybe damaged by the football.
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Old 12-09-2012, 16:09
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Person of Interest: 940k/4.0% (+1: 175k/1.05%). According to Broadcast, a series low. Maybe damaged by the football.
Yeah it is a series low I believe. It's a shame really. It's a pretty good show. I think its going to struggle over its 23-episode run to be honest.
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Old 12-09-2012, 16:18
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BT acquires exclusive Aviva Premiership rights for £152m from 2013/14 season, denying both ESPN and Sky:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/media/ne...-espn-sky.html
£152m for 4 years = £38m per year.

Current deal a bit complicated as ESPN took over Setanta's rights but from memory I think Setanta + Sky paid a combined £18m per year for 2010/11 to 2012/13.

So an increase of just over 100%.
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Old 12-09-2012, 16:26
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The Guardian did point out yesterday that even the expected low attendance is higher than any of the international matches played on Friday, including Germany. I know Germany were only playing the Faroe Islands but England got 70,000 against Andorra. I'm pretty sure England matches have the highest attendance of any nation in Europe. Italy have played friendlies in 15,000-seater stadia. And at this stage in the qualification process it's not massively appealing as a match, especially live on terrestrial TV.
Oh sure, England games do get very good attendances indeed compared to what other countries get.

I just thought last night's attendance looked very poor compared to what England normally gets.

I was actually surprised that the official attendance was as high as 68,000 because I didn't think it looked that high (whether the official attendance may be slightly artificially inflated with corporate tickets included who don't actually show up I don't know).

Not sure if you happen to know when England last got that low a figure for a qualifier at Wembley? Not sure if there's been one that low since it was rebuilt?

It's also worth bearing in mind that Ukraine is probably the most attractive game of the group. England's remaining games are San Marino, Moldova, Montenegro and Poland.
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Old 12-09-2012, 16:27
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As yesterday another quick recap of what's been reported so far. I'm sure some will do the full round up later.

BBC1
13:45 – Doctors: 1.47m (21.9%)
19:30 - EastEnders: 7.25m (34.4%)
20:00 – Holby City: 4.49m (18.8%)
21:00 – Trouble on the Estate: 3.25m

BBC2
20:00 – Great British Bake Off: 4.2m

ITV1
19:00 – Emmerdale: 6.38m (33.1%) +1 247k
19:30 – Football: 4.55m +1 1.04m
*Peak 7.45m (31.71%)

Channel 4
18:30 – Hollyoaks: 739k (4.1%)
22:00 - Redtube: 917k (5.8%)

Channel 5
17:30 – Neighbours: 923k (6.5%)
18:00 – Home & Away: 706k (4.3%)
21:00 – Person of Interest: 940k (4.0%) +1 175k

BBC3
22:30 - EastEnders: 593k (4.2%)

E4
19:00 – Hollyoaks: 584k (3.0%)

5*
18:30 – Home & Away: 436k (2.4%)
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Old 12-09-2012, 16:30
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Interestingly, BBC claim a 68,102 attendance: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19527517

Looked a fair bit lower than that, capacity is 80,000, right?
For the record the capacity is now 90,000.
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Old 12-09-2012, 16:39
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NBC last night:

The Voice - 3.9
Go On - 3.4
New Normal - 2.5
Parenthood - 1.9

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The Voice held a bit better than I thought it would (it was up on Monday's 8pm hour). Strong start for Go On and The New Normal retained all of its audience from Monday which will be a relief for NBC. Not good for Parenthood but it never has rated that well.
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Old 12-09-2012, 16:41
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Yeah it is a series low I believe. It's a shame really. It's a pretty good show. I think its going to struggle over its 23-episode run to be honest.
I think it just needs time. The football certainly would have taken viewers away last night. But I think also with procedural dramas, there isn't that same pressure to be a huge hit out of the gate, as there might be with something like Dallas for example. It's worth remembering how one of C5's current highest rated shows, NCIS, started out on Channel 5:

Season 1, Episode 1 (Yankee White) Sat 1st April 2006 8.20pm: 1.75m
Season 1, Episode 2 (Hung Out to Dry) Sat 8th April 2006 8pm: 1.30m
Season 1, Episode 3 (Seadog) Sat 15th April 2006 8.15pm: 1.32m

And those are official ratings, not overnights. Compared with Person of Interest so far:

Season 1, Episode 1 (Pilot) Tue 14th August 2012 10pm: 2.00m [2.2m inc. +1]
Season 1, Episode 2 (Ghosts) Tue 21st August 2012 9pm: 1.69m
Season 1, Episode 3 (Mission Creep) Tue 28th August 2012 9pm: 1.70m

Source: BARB.

It might not catch on in the same way, we'll see, but my personal view is that Person of Interest's best days ratings wise are ahead of it.
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Old 12-09-2012, 16:47
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For the record the capacity is now 90,000.
Actual attendence could be hard to measure as Wembley may well have counted all of their 10,000+ 'Club Wembley' debenture holders as going, even if they didn't.
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Old 12-09-2012, 16:49
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NBC last night:

The Voice - 3.9
Go On - 3.4
New Normal - 2.5
Parenthood - 1.9

Franklin Avenue

The Voice held a bit better than I thought it would (it was up on Monday's 8pm hour). Strong start for Go On and The New Normal retained all of its audience from Monday which will be a relief for NBC. Not good for Parenthood but it never has rated that well.
The Voice relatively stable and NBC have every reason to be happy with that. It dropped down to an hour in a lower PUT slot and only dropped two tenths (clearly rated a hell of a lot better in the 8PM hour last night than Monday night as well). Fox meanwhile have every reason to start getting a little bit concerned about the clash with The X Factor tonight.

Go On did very well indeed. Although that's against zero competition. The New Normal looks less healthy. Although it managed a 100% retention of the pilot audience so NBC can't complain too much. But again that's against no competition and both it and Go On have comedies on Fox and ABC (after a couple of weeks of Dancing) and a big CBS drama looming on the horizon.

Disaster for Parenthood.
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Old 12-09-2012, 16:50
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ITV1
19:30 – Football: 4.55m +1 1.04m
*Peak 7.45m (31.71%)
The 1.04m figure is the HD rating, not the +1 figure. Therefore the total figure is 5.59m. Mike Teevee never posts +1 figures. He always posts the SD + HD figures seperately. Also 1m+ for a +1 rating for a LIVE football match would never happen IMO.

I think it just needs time. The football certainly would have taken viewers away last night. But I think also with procedural dramas, there isn't that same pressure to be a huge hit out of the gate, as there might be with something like Dallas for example. It's worth remembering how one of C5's current highest rated shows, NCIS, started out on Channel 5:

Season 1, Episode 1 (Yankee White) Sat 1st April 2006 8.20pm: 1.75m
Season 1, Episode 2 (Hung Out to Dry) Sat 8th April 2006 8pm: 1.30m
Season 1, Episode 3 (Seadog) Sat 15th April 2006 8.15pm: 1.32m

And those are official ratings, not overnights. Compared with Person of Interest so far:

Season 1, Episode 1 (Pilot) Tue 14th August 2012 10pm: 2.00m [2.2m inc. +1]
Season 1, Episode 2 (Ghosts) Tue 21st August 2012 9pm: 1.69m
Season 1, Episode 3 (Mission Creep) Tue 28th August 2012 9pm: 1.70m

Source: BARB.

It might not catch on in the same way, we'll see, but my personal view is that Person of Interest's best days ratings wise are ahead of it.
Yeah I agree with that. It's going alright in the officials actually. We'll have to see how the latest episode timeshifts.
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Old 12-09-2012, 16:52
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After yesterday's discussion, here are all the Daybreak ratings since the relaunch:
ITV will be pleased that it is hitting 700,000.

but it didn't kick off till 8!

K
seriously?

I was joking (perhaps you are as well!). that "7.45m" is the audience, not the time (but you knew that, right?)

K

oh come on, that isnt fair.

Rolf Harris to make TV return on Channel 5 in new show Rolf's Animal Clinic:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...channel-5.html
not the worse idea they have ever had. Wonder how involved RSPCA will be this time.
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Old 12-09-2012, 16:57
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The 1.04m figure is the HD rating, not the +1 figure. Therefore the total figure is 5.59m. Mike Teevee never posts +1 figures. He always posts the SD + HD figures seperately. Also 1m+ for a +1 rating for a LIVE football match would never happen IMO.
That did seem a little strange.
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Old 12-09-2012, 17:21
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Actual attendence could be hard to measure as Wembley may well have counted all of their 10,000+ 'Club Wembley' debenture holders as going, even if they didn't.
Tthe official attendance at Wembley last night was 68,102.
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Old 12-09-2012, 17:51
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Tthe official attendance at Wembley last night was 68,102.
Maybe this is a Scotland thing, but here official attendence is often a lot more than real attendence, due to clubs counting all season ticket holders as going even if they didn't. Though Rangers/Celtic have large numbers of ST holders who don't live near to the grounds and as such may not go to every game, so as I said it maybe a Scotland thing. The listed attendence in the police report for a recent Celtic vs Aberdeen game was apparently 7000 less than the attendance Celtic announced.
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Old 12-09-2012, 18:21
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Why do the BBC not change the rules for SPOTY this year?

They could do well by giving the public the chance to vote on an Olympian of the Year, Paralympian of the year and a Sports Personality. That way there will be chance for all to get the recognition they deserve this year.

The public would love this given the impossibility of thechoice and they would get good PR I think.
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Old 12-09-2012, 18:35
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Also - looks like Robbie has stuck to his word so far! Nothing from him since he said he was going to leave. And with GeorgeS gone too - who's going to fill these gaps?!
There ought be little arguing here - playful banter yes, perhaps Robbie/GeorgeS had enough of the backbiting.
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Old 12-09-2012, 19:22
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Not good news that for the last few remaining US daytime soaps, one assumes.
Maybe Charnham could become head writer of GH to get it up in the ratings, with a former X-Factor judge/singer as it's EP and part of a new core family arriving in Port Charles.

Who would he bring in? I would love Charnham, if he was HW, to have the One Life cast go ending that silly love-in that the new regime have with their old show and, following Tristan Rogers on Y&R, bringing in a Aussie soap veteran like Elspeth Ballantyne to head up the hospital with the new Spiderman (who was born in LA, where General Hospital is taped) on a recurring role as her son (and part of the core 3 with EB/CC).
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Old 12-09-2012, 19:24
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Not sure if you happen to know when England last got that low a figure for a qualifier at Wembley? Not sure if there's been one that low since it was rebuilt?

It's also worth bearing in mind that Ukraine is probably the most attractive game of the group. England's remaining games are San Marino, Moldova, Montenegro and Poland.
Well, according to, cough, Wikipedia the attendance for that Andorra game in 2009 was 57,000. Although last night was the most attractive of the group, that doesn't say much because it's not a very attractive group, so most fans wouldn't go, oh, I'll go to that one as it's the best of the group, they wouldn't go at all. Unlike a club team I doubt the importance of the fixture is the most important aspect for the fans, and I reckon the friendly against Brazil next year will get a higher attendance than any of the qualifiers.

My auntie wanted to go and see a Six Nations match at Twickenham the other year and specifically chose the one against Italy because they knew the tickets would be cheap and it'd be an easy England win, despite not being particularly important. I'd imagine the majority of fans at England games at Wembley are just people who wanted to go and see Any England Game.
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Old 12-09-2012, 19:30
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A drama clash is now set for Tuesday 25th September. BBC1 have the launch of The Paradise at 9pm as we know but now ITV1 have a new episode of Midsomer Murders airing that night from 8pm according to ITV Press Centre.

Both will be dented by the clash but The Paradise will presumably be dented more as Midsomer starts an hour earlier, and also The Paradise is the launch of the series, so if that is dented then the rest of the series may be harmed too. The Paradise is suddenly looking a bit vulnerable. I'd had it down as a big Sunday night hit, but first it gets thrown on to Tuesdays and now ITV have put new Midsomer against it. BBC1 won't be thrilled.
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