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After some said this thread was getting too big for it's own good, for what it's worth, I asked DS if they would consider creating a separate sub-forum to discuss TV ratings with a list of reasons why (a thread for each day, threads for old TV ratings and discussion, scheduling thread, RPG thread etc), their response was just that it would be passed onto the forum administration team for consideration.
The England match did solidly well last night, a relief possibly for ITV after last Friday's poor rating. Trouble on the Estate sounds like Summer filler to me on BBC One, but Holby did admirably against the football. It will be interesting to monitor its ratings over the next few weeks as the Champions League may keep it around the mid 4m's. |
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A drama clash is now set for Tuesday 25th September. BBC1 have the launch of The Paradise at 9pm as we know but now ITV1 have a new episode of Midsomer Murders airing that night from 8pm according to ITV Press Centre...
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A drama clash is now set for Tuesday 25th September. BBC1 have the launch of The Paradise at 9pm as we know but now ITV1 have a new episode of Midsomer Murders airing that night from 8pm according to ITV Press Centre.
Both will be dented by the clash but The Paradise will presumably be dented more as Midsomer starts an hour earlier, and also The Paradise is the launch of the series, so if that is dented then the rest of the series may be harmed too. The Paradise is suddenly looking a bit vulnerable. I'd had it down as a big Sunday night hit, but first it gets thrown on to Tuesdays and now ITV have put new Midsomer against it. BBC1 won't be thrilled. Unless, of course, they just don't think it's all that good and are happy to let it sink or swim on is own. But that would seem unlikely. |
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After some said this thread was getting too big for it's own good, for what it's worth, I asked DS if they would consider creating a separate sub-forum to discuss TV ratings with a list of reasons why (a thread for each day, threads for old TV ratings and discussion, scheduling thread, RPG thread etc), their response was just that it would be passed onto the forum administration team for consideration..
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After some said this thread was getting too big for it's own good, for what it's worth, I asked DS if they would consider creating a separate sub-forum to discuss TV ratings with a list of reasons why (a thread for each day, threads for old TV ratings and discussion, scheduling thread, RPG thread etc), their response was just that it would be passed onto the forum administration team for consideration.
The England match did solidly well last night, a relief possibly for ITV after last Friday's poor rating. Trouble on the Estate sounds like Summer filler to me on BBC One, but Holby did admirably against the football. It will be interesting to monitor its ratings over the next few weeks as the Champions League may keep it around the mid 4m's. |
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Finalised schedules:
Saturday 22nd September BBC One 18:00 - A Question of Sport 18:30 - Total Wipeout 19:30 - Doctor Who 20:15 - Lottery: Secret Fortune 21:05 - Casualty ITV1 18:25 - You've Been Framed 18:55 - Fool Britannia 19:25 - Red or Black 20:10 - The X Factor 21:40 - Red or Black 22:25 - The Jonathan Ross Show With Midsomer now on the Tuesday, Officially Amazing and Kate and William: The South Seas have been dropped, the latter airing on the Sunday at 22:20. |
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Finalised schedules:
Saturday 22nd September BBC One 18:00 - A Question of Sport 18:30 - Total Wipeout 19:30 - Doctor Who 20:15 - Lottery: Secret Fortune 21:05 - Casualty ITV1 18:25 - You've Been Framed 18:55 - Fool Britannia 19:25 - Red or Black 20:10 - The X Factor 21:40 - Red or Black 22:25 - The Jonathan Ross Show With Midsomer now on the Tuesday, Officially Amazing and Kate and William: The South Seas have been dropped, the latter airing on the Sunday at 22:20. |
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Wonder why XF are back to a 90 minute show.
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Well we still haven't had the non-soap DS report, but I thought I'd do a round-up with what we have.
Tuesday 11th September 2012 BBC One 13:45 – Doctors: 1.47m (21.9%) 18:00 – BBC News at Six: 4.19m (26%) 18:30 – Regional News and Weather: 5.28m (29%) 19:00 – The One Show: 3.91m (20%) 19:30 – Eastenders: 7.25m (34.4%) * peak: 7.7m - highest audience of day 20:00 - Holby City: 4.49m (18.8%) * includes Scottish opt-out (River City) 21:00 – Panorama: Trouble on the Estate: 3.25m (14%) * year-to-date slot average: 4.5m (19%) * last 12 months' slot average: 4.61m (19.2%) * average for Panorama for year-to-date: 2.92m (12.4%) 22:00 – BBC News at Ten: 4.63m (25%) BBC Two 20:00 – The Great British Bake-Off: 4.18m (17.5%) inc 196k on BBC HD 21:00 – Vikings: 2.08m (8.9%) inc 88k on BBC HD * last 12 months' slot average: 2.05m (8.6%) for BBC2 only ITV1 06:00 – Daybreak: 0.7m (15.7%) inc +1 18:30 – ITV News and Weather: 3.27m (18%) inc +1 19:00 – Emmerdale: 6.38m (33.1%), +1: 247k (1.1%) * full slot: 6.32m (33%) inc +1 19:30 – World Cup Qualifier: England v Ukraine: 5.59m (24.45%), +1: 86k (total share 25% inc +1) * slot average in last 12 months: 3.1m (13.5%) * peak: 7.45m (31.7%) at 21:45 Channel 4 18:00 – The Simpsons: 1.39m inc +1 * 42% skew and 4.0 rating in 16-34 demo 18:30 – Hollyoaks: 739k (4.1%) 20:00 – Double Your House for Half the Money: 1.59m inc +1 * 49% skew and 3.0 rating in ABC1 demo (33% skew and 3.9 rating in ABC1 Women) 21:00 – One Born Every Minute: Twins and Triplets: 2.05m (8.8%), +1: 358k (2.2%) * 8.1 rating (536,500) among Housewives with Children, 6.6 rating (895,500) in ABC1 Housewives 22:00 – Rude Tube: 917k (5.8%) Channel 5 13:45 – Neighbours: 605k (9.1%) 17:30 – Neighbours: 923k (6.5%) 18:00 – Home and Away: 706k (4.3%) 21:00 – Person of Interest: 940k (4.0%), +1: 175k (1.05%) * series low Multichannel BBC Three 21:00 – Don’t Tell the Bride: 684k (2.9%) 22:00 – Bad Education: 788k (4.3%) * series low 22:30 – Eastenders: 593k (4.2%) 23:00 – Family Guy: 651k (6.3%) 23:20 – Family Guy: 648k (8.1%) 24:05 – American Dad!: 576k (11.9%) BBC Four 20:30 – British Passion on Film: 0.2m (0.8%) * year-to-date slot average: 0.4 (1.9%) 22:00 – Lilyhammer: 402k (2.3%) * year-to-date slot average: 0.4m (1.5%) ITV3 20.00 – Agatha Christie’s Marple: 734k (3.1%) E4 18:00 – The Big Bang Theory: 573k inc +1 * 56% skew to 16-34 demo, 2.2 rating in that demo 19:00 – Hollyoaks: 584k (3.0%), +1: 72k 21:00 – New Girl: 592k (2.5%) inc +1 * 68% skew to 16-34 demo, 2.7 rating in that demo (3.2 in Women 16-34) Film4 18:55 – Shopgirl: 147k inc +1 21:00 – Role Models: 270.5k inc +1 More4 21:00 – 9/11: The Firemen’s Story: 284k inc +1 22:00 – 9/11: The Lost Tapes: 467k inc +1 5* 18:30 – Home and Away: 436k (2.4%) Yesterday 19:25 – Last of the Summer Wine: 373k inc +1 Alibi 21:00 – The Glades: 199k inc +1 Dave 21:00 - QI XL: 338k inc Dave Ja Vu Primetime Shares ITV1: 25% inc +1 * winner of night All-Day Shares inc +1 BBC 1 20.7% ITV1 18.5% * BBC portfolio 33.9%, ITV portfolio 25.1% BBC 2 7.9% Channel 4 6.7% Channel 5 4.3% ITV3 2.7% ITV2 2.6% E4 2.1%
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Sources: DS Soaps, Attentional Screenwatch , ITV Media, Broadcast, C4 Sales, soupnazi, Sam Hodges, credit to dave01 for Scottish Holby opt-out fact |
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It's bootcamp week. I believe they have been over an hour in recent years...
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Hollyoaks is just not picking up at all, im really not sure it has a future at this point. More worrying is how much the BBC 3 repeat of EE is suffering in its new timeslot. Bad Education is still doing OK, but I expect it to continue to drop.
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£152m for 4 years = £38m per year.
Current deal a bit complicated as ESPN took over Setanta's rights but from memory I think Setanta + Sky paid a combined £18m per year for 2010/11 to 2012/13. So an increase of just over 100%. People are quick to point out they've got the multi-billion pound BT behind them and say it's all about triple play etc., but just like with the ITV Sport Channel and I'm sure we'll see soon with ESPN, a company isn't going to keep a product going that is losing them money - and in setting up "BT Sport" you can be sure that BT will ensure it's core business is protected if "BT Sport" goes bust, and if that does happen sadly it'll be the Rugby Premiership rather than the Premier League which feels the consequences more. Quote:
Hollyoaks is just not picking up at all, im really not sure it has a future at this point.
The last thing I'd want to see is C4 extend their daytime shows into the 6pm hour and don't really want to see them just put more Simpsons or another US show in the slot either - though I guess they could go back to what they did in the 90s and have a varied schedule throughout the week, rather than stripped. They also need to ensure they don't make the same mistakes as with Big Brother and have shows ready to role once Hollyoaks goes that actually appeals to the Hollyoaks viewer (both those watching and those who've stopped watching). Ideally I'd say they should have around four 8-part pre-watershed drama series over the year (perhaps one on E4), hoping at least one or two of them stick and can return as 13 parters. |
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Family Guy still gets the best ratings for BBC3 and its been repeated a-lot but viewers don't care, Even beats the Eastenders that has only been on once
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for what is worth, keeping Hollyoaks on E4 is something that would need to be explored, if they were ever to sit down and have that big chat about where Hollyoaks can go from here. the one thing it has going for it, is it seems to feature plenty of Product Placement (at least going by news articles) which is still rare for UK TV, and should still have favourable demographics.
As for C4 post Hollyoaks, its a tricky slot no question, The Simpsons at 6pm, is a nice full stop on C4 daytime, which would seem strange at 6:30pm, also C4 isnt TEN so it cant extend C4 news to 1 hour, like TEN did when Neighbours moved to ELEVEN Whose logo looks nothing like E4s Double Simpsons is a short term option, but C4 should have something new to put in the slot, the question I suppose is do you still want C4 to appeal to that demographic, or are they happy to let E4 do that from then on? I guess Hollyoaks Later may do something for Hollyoaks ratnigs, but maybe that will boost E4s airing more than C4s, since those viewers are E4 viewers more likely to watch at E4 pace. |
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A drama clash is now set for Tuesday 25th September. BBC1 have the launch of The Paradise at 9pm as we know but now ITV1 have a new episode of Midsomer Murders airing that night from 8pm according to ITV Press Centre.
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for what is worth, keeping Hollyoaks on E4 is something that would need to be explored, if they were ever to sit down and have that big chat about where Hollyoaks can go from here. the one thing it has going for it, is it seems to feature plenty of Product Placement (at least going by news articles) which is still rare for UK TV, and should still have favourable demographics.
As for C4 post Hollyoaks, its a tricky slot no question, The Simpsons at 6pm, is a nice full stop on C4 daytime, which would seem strange at 6:30pm, also C4 isnt TEN so it cant extend C4 news to 1 hour, like TEN did when Neighbours moved to ELEVEN Whose logo looks nothing like E4s Double Simpsons is a short term option, but C4 should have something new to put in the slot, the question I suppose is do you still want C4 to appeal to that demographic, or are they happy to let E4 do that from then on? I guess Hollyoaks Later may do something for Hollyoaks ratnigs, but maybe that will boost E4s airing more than C4s, since those viewers are E4 viewers more likely to watch at E4 pace. And 11's logo doesn't look that much like E4... |
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More likely repeats of US sitcoms or something with Nick Grimshaw and Jameela Jamil...
*Its not like Chris Evans presents The One Show, 5 nights a week, and nor could C4 start a The 4 Show, similar to The One Show, but aimed at a younger demographic. |
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A drama clash is now set for Tuesday 25th September. BBC1 have the launch of The Paradise at 9pm as we know but now ITV1 have a new episode of Midsomer Murders airing that night from 8pm according to ITV Press Centre.
Both will be dented by the clash but The Paradise will presumably be dented more as Midsomer starts an hour earlier, and also The Paradise is the launch of the series, so if that is dented then the rest of the series may be harmed too. The Paradise is suddenly looking a bit vulnerable. I'd had it down as a big Sunday night hit, but first it gets thrown on to Tuesdays and now ITV have put new Midsomer against it. BBC1 won't be thrilled. I would suspect that plenty will stick with Holby and Bake Off, thus leaving a large amount of viewers looking for something to watch at 9pm. I don't think The Paradise will be too badly effected, although it's far from perfect. |
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...also C4 isnt TEN so it cant extend C4 news to 1 hour, like TEN did when Neighbours moved to ELEVEN
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I think Nick might be a little busy with the Radio 1 Breakfast show*, to worry about C4s tea time slot. Also I suspect C4 may wish to age the slot, and let E4 capitalise on the younger viewers. The Simpsons probably is not as young as we think. No point repeating TBBT or HIMYM on C4, when its viewers will most likely be watching something very similar on E4.
*Its not like Chris Evans presents The One Show, 5 nights a week, and nor could C4 start a The 4 Show, similar to The One Show, but aimed at a younger demographic. Who said BBT or HIMYM, I was thinking along the lines of their morning output, something like Will and Grace or Frasier? or perhaps they'd steal another BBC daytime show (possibly recently axed)... |
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*Its not like Chris Evans presents The One Show, 5 nights a week, and nor could C4 start a The 4 Show, similar to The One Show, but aimed at a younger demographic.
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for what is worth, keeping Hollyoaks on E4 is something that would need to be explored, if they were ever to sit down and have that big chat about where Hollyoaks can go from here. the one thing it has going for it, is it seems to feature plenty of Product Placement (at least going by news articles) which is still rare for UK TV, and should still have favourable demographics.
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Double Simpsons is a short term option, but C4 should have something new to put in the slot, the question I suppose is do you still want C4 to appeal to that demographic, or are they happy to let E4 do that from then on?
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I bet he'll be doing T4 on the weekends though...
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Who said BBT or HIMYM, I was thinking along the lines of their morning output, something like Will and Grace or Frasier?
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or perhaps they'd steal another BBC daytime show (possibly recently axed)...
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C4 News is already an hour (well, 55 minutes). I think an hour and a half of Jon Snow would be too much!
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I do think a kind of drive time version of The Big Breakfast from 5-7pm could do rather well,
Might help if I could picture more than a TV version of the Simon Mayo drivetime show however. |
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Also I suspect C4 may wish to age the slot, and let E4 capitalise on the younger viewers. The Simpsons probably is not as young as we think.
Individuals: 1,389k, TVR = 2.4 Adults: 1,048k (75% skew), TVR = 2.1 Children: 341k (25% skew), TVR = 4.7 Adults 16-34: 580k (42% skew), TVR = 4.0 Housewives with Children: 254k (18% skew), TVR = 3.8 Men 16-34 : 261k (19% skew), TVR = 3.6 Women 16-34: 310k (22% skew), TVR = 4.4 So a quarter of the audience is aged 4-15, another two-fifths is aged 16-34, with the remaining third aged 35+. As a comparison, from rzt's list yesterday, Waterloo Road had 15% kids, 21% 16-34s and the rest (64%) aged 35+, TXF on Saturday had 13% kids, 27% 16-34s, 60% aged 35+. (Sunday slightly fewer % kids, slightly more % 16-34s). Obviously all these shows had many more total viewers, but you can see the commercial value of The Simpsons when it attracts 4.7% of all kids and 4% of all 16-34s. I'm slightly surprised that there is a bit of a female bias for The Simpsons, at least among 16-34s, but then young men watch less telly overall. |
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Sons of Anarchy returned huge last night in the US. It pulled 5.4m viewers and a 2.8 in the 18-49 demo (a near 70% skew). The fifth season premiere posted series highs, up 9% in adults 18-49 from last year. The show aired 10pm-11.30pm and FX then repeated it twice in a row (11.30pm-1am and 1am-2.30am) which brought up the total audience to 7.5m (3.8) for the night.
In US finals The Voice got adjusted up to a 4.0. While it's lower than Monday (and the lowest ever for an auditions episode) it's probably a lot more encouraging to NBC than Monday's episode was seeing as it actually improved the 8pm hour vs last night. |
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