Corrie did pretty well in that slot although is this is now back on Wednesdays permanently? ITV have moved it about a lot lately so you think they could put a statement out or an advert on just to confirm its not on a Thursday now. If they have, my bad.

Didnt WDYTYA used to rate a lot better than that? Like 6/7m? Maybe it just depends who is on.

Yes, it used to get 6-7m, a guaranteed ratings banker. Same as TXF used to get 12-16m, or Casualty 14-17m, Antiques Roadshow 12-15m, Corrie 18m, and so on.

All shows have a shelf life....

Good rating for Watchdog last night. Should do better here away from the ITV soap hour, however this will be at the expense of Waterloo Road's ratings. On balance I'd still prefer the 2 shows as Watchdog on Thurs and WR on Weds.


I would be 60/40 in favour of this. I don't know how well a thread purely for quoting and discussing that days ratings would work, I suspect people would still go off-topic in there unfortunately. However I do think some subjects such as US ratings, upcoming schedules and historic ratings would benefit and get more discussion in their own threads. (That's not to say I'm un-interested in these topics).

Well with +1, Dallas did stay above 2m. It got 2.1m.

It might get another lease of life with some better names I suppose. Hugh Dennis is a nice man I'm sure but not exactly a big name.

90 minute slot for Mrs Biggs last week, perhaps a few timeshifted the last half hour?

Ahh welcome back..... It was just a figure of speech...I am sure that if we had BBC1+1...that WDYTYA would have won on delay/aggregate/timeshift/merit/loyalty to the Queen

I just read a piece on BBC News website regarding SCD launch...stating that ratings are becoming less relevant or important due to catch up, bbc iplayer etc.....also mentioning TXF being pushed back to 8pm giving SCD a clear run up until that time.

Official numbers are out now for episode 1 of Dallas, and it's managed to deliver a sizeable timeshift of around 700k. Excluding ads, which will be automatically stripped out on BARB, it's looking at a final consolidated audience of around 3.6-3.8m. Channel 5's highest rated show so far this year is the Celebrity Big Brother final in January which managed a similar 3.73m (inc. +1). Here's the breakdown in full with the overnights on the left and the officials on the right:

'Changing of the Guard' (Wed 5th September 21:03) Overnights to Consolidated
21:05 3,149,100 13.51% 3,908,100 14.57%
21:10 2,932,700 12.63% 3,438,600 13.16%
21:15 2,841,200 12.27% 3,351,100 12.95%
21:20 3,121,000 13.34% 3,908,100 14.65%
21:25 2,881,400 12.52% 3,298,900 12.79%
21:30 2,908,900 12.66% 3,562,800 13.67%
21:35 3,022,600 13.23% 3,890,300 14.91%
21:40 3,002,800 13.32% 3,814,300 15.04%
21:45 2,473,100 10.92% 2,610,800 10.38%
21:50 2,836,000 12.44% 3,638,000 14.05%
21:55 3,045,400 13.64% 3,852,500 15.53%
22:00 3,164,700 14.94% 3,692,400 15.79%
22:05 2,932,900 14.30% 3,251,000 14.58%
22:10 3,050,800 15.14% 3,589,200 16.20%
including C5+1 and C5HD

How do the consolidated ratings work out 5 minute ratings when ads are stripped out? For example the 9.45-9.50 low point on Dallas. Was this a long ad break? Or is it a partial 5 minute rating (with for example 2 mins of ad time removed from the 5 minute slot)?

How come it is the only rating under 3m, I do have it recorded....but not sure that I want to scan through it again for ad breaks.....

That's just the raw 5 minute breakdown, the ads haven't been removed yet. The 21:45 break also included a competition which ran for about a minute, which might explain why that one rated so much worse than the other breaks. For last night's episode they moved the competition to after the credits.

Thanks Dancc, so with ads stripped out, we could see a 4m average??

Not quite, because none of the 5 minute segments managed 4m, even the ones with no ads.

It's going to be in the high 3's though, which is a very good result.

How low will Shameless have to go before Channel 4 axe it? I wouldn't be surprised if the audience drops for tonights episode.

The BBC Press office update for the week of 29 sept - 5 October says Hunted starts that week doesn't give a day though, nothing else of interest though as far as I can see.

Watched some Watchdog last night was actually interesting, don't get the hate for it - its competent at what it does and obviously viewers want to watch it.

Shameless was back? Didn't even realise. Surely its time to bring it to an end? After 10 years Ch4 should really be looking to move the budget to another drama.


ITV1 have done a really good thing in advertising the 'schedule' on Wednesdays. I said it was a grower, and I've no doubt some new viewers propped up Mrs Biggs from the usual weekly drop. Corrie up a wee bit too.

Hopefully ITV build on this and make Wednesday a strong midweek schedule in the future too.

It must have come to something when ITV are crowing about beating Channel 5!

In a field of two. It was also the highest rating drama starring Sheridan Smith and the highest rating drama about a Great Train Robber.

Head of Scheduling at Fox claiming that The X Factor won the night for the network.

Great minds, Steve..

WHAT?!?!?!?!? Early prelim numbers (household numbers) don't even come out for another few hours!!! Let alone overnight ratings!!!!

The only way I see a "ratings sub forum" working is if we just have one comments thread which continues like this and each days ratings are posted in a new thread which is solely for numbers and round-ups and not for any analysis and debate. Whether or not DS would allow a forum for such a thing, I'm not so sure. Especially as they might argue that they provide ratings round-ups for those looking to find such information. And of course removing this thread from the main TV Shows forum to a sub forum might mean fewer people reading.


Doesn't mean much anyway - FOX would win the night because NBCs 10pm hour will drag them down. It's the 8-10pm portion that's of interest.

From advantage FOX on Tuesday, I think The Voice's strong second night swung that advantage back to NBC and put a dent in X Factor's chances of coming close to last years premiere. Hard to predict, though. AGT as well - will The Voice viewers go over to XF or stick with NBC?

I wish somehow the last roundup post was pinned to the top of the page.

The networks all pay a fair bit of money to get more numbers than we see a lot earlier than us. Plus what he actually said was The X Factor will win the night for Fox not that it has.


Indeed. Its not particularly surprising that Fox would win the night. I think the majority would have predicted that in advanced. The X Factor (unless it had a complete disaster) was always likely to beat America's Got Talent and NBC's 10PM hour on Wednesday which features a preview of their weakest new comedy and a repeat of The New Normal was never going to do great business.

The more interesting rating will be the 8PM hour.

Onto UK ratings then.

ITV appears to have had a pretty good night all things considered with Mrs Biggs somewhat surprisingly up week-on-week (good word of mouth? Timeshift viewers liking what they saw and watching sooner?). They've done a good job with this Wednesday schedule and audiences seem to be finding it so hopefully that'll encourage them to keep pressing forward with stuff like this across the week.

Solid enough for BBC1 from the look of things with Watchdog and Who Do You Think You Are doing about what you'd expect these days. Who Do You Think You Are certainly appears to be flagging these days though and isn't the show it once was.

Unsurprisingly Shameless' return disappointed. It really is time for Channel 4 to put this show out of its misery. The transformation of it over the years from a drama with some comedic edge to just a broad sitcom has been depressing to watch. That they promoted the return this year around Frank getting a job just about sums the whole thing up really.

Dallas not quite as strong week-on-week as some had expected. Again that's what you get for trusting social media. Still far from a disaster for Channel 5. it did get its head above 2 million with +1 so we'll see how it does in the weeks to come.