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The Ratings Thread (Part 40)
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Brekkie
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Why do people bemoan others about posting about TXF/DW? These are the biggest two shows on at the weekend at present so obviously people are going to discuss them. Can't you just skip through the comments you are not bothered about?”

It's quite difficult when it's a dozen pages. I'm sure though it'll calm down as the weeks go on.

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Milkshake! is a strand to be proud of IMO and should forever remain a key part of what C5 do.

They've just released a lovely looking app for it on Youview as well (separate to the main 'Demand 5' application). Useful for parents, I'm sure.”

I'm surprised they've never tried expanding it into the late afternoon, especially in the wake of CITV and soon CBBC ending on "terrestrial" channels. Yes, kids may go to kids channels first now but obviously viewers choose Milkshake in the morning so no reason they wouldn't in the afternoon - and it surely couldn't do any worse than the afternoon B-movie.
SouthCity
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by mlt11:
“"Olympics helps BBC1 to biggest ever ratings lead over ITV1"

"Channel has 21.9% audience share for year to date, a record 7.2 points ahead of ITV1, thanks to Games and diamond jubilee"

Media Guardian article with lots of year to date stats.

Headline point is that BBC1 lead over ITV1 for year to date is an all time record for both peak and all hours.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...ings-lead-itv1”

Interesting article but no need for any alarm bells at ITV.

There won't be another London Olympics for 50 years (the next two are likely to be non-European and off-peak, with Tokyo odds-on favourites for 2020).

There could be another Jubilee in 2022, but on the other hand there may not be another one for decades.

Of the main sports events in summer 2013 only Wimbledon is likely to seriously trouble ITV. The Ashes is on Sky/Channel 5 and the World Athletics is on Channel 4.
wizzywick
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“There isn't much left of the old BBC/ITV only households now. I'd find it odd if you found someone who says they only watch one channel now.”

Well, I generally only watch BBC1. If there's nothing on BBC1 I want to watch, I usually play on the Wii or put a DVD on!
Martin Phillp
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by SouthCity:
“Interesting article but no need for any alarm bells at ITV.

There won't be another London Olympics for 50 years (the next two are likely to be non-European and off-peak, with Tokyo odds-on favourites for 2020).

There could be another Jubilee in 2022, but on the other hand there may not be another one for decades.

Of the main sports events in summer 2013 only Wimbledon is likely to seriously trouble ITV. The Ashes is on Sky/Channel 5 and the World Athletics is on Channel 4.”

There's also the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow in 2014.
jake lyle
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“Is this the same default BBC1 audience that never goes under 4m?

Yet it seems to go under 4m quite a lot which just proves that there isn't a default audience. ”

Remember this is the same Andy 23 who said that all BBC One Comedies got a default audience then totally contradicted himself 2 days later by saying that Citizen Khan would flop like the Royal Bodyguard.
I wish he would just make up his mind.
KennyT
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by mlt11:
“"Olympics helps BBC1 to biggest ever ratings lead over ITV1"

"Channel has 21.9% audience share for year to date, a record 7.2 points ahead of ITV1, thanks to Games and diamond jubilee"

Media Guardian article with lots of year to date stats.

Headline point is that BBC1 lead over ITV1 for year to date is an all time record for both peak and all hours.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...ings-lead-itv1”

Can't see it stated but does it include ITVHD?

K
SouthCity
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by Martin Phillp:
“There's also the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow in 2014.”

Most of the top athletes from the Commonwealth stayed away from the last Commonwealth Games. It remains to be seen how many can be bothered to turn up in 2014.

The Olympics and the World Championships are the ones that really matter.
wizzywick
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by Martin Phillp:
“There's also the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow in 2014.”

There could also be unscheduled events that attract big BBC1 audiences such as the death of the Duke of Edinburgh, the death of The Queen and a Coronation. I predict all these events during the next 6 years.
ftv
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by SouthCity:
“Interesting article but no need for any alarm bells at ITV.

There won't be another London Olympics for 50 years (the next two are likely to be non-European and off-peak, with Tokyo odds-on favourites for 2020).

There could be another Jubilee in 2022, but on the other hand there may not be another one for decades.

Of the main sports events in summer 2013 only Wimbledon is likely to seriously trouble ITV. The Ashes is on Sky/Channel 5 and the World Athletics is on Channel 4.”

The next Olympics and Paralympics will be in Rio in 2016.The location of the 2020 Olympics will be decided shortly. The BBC have rights to both.
wizzywick
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by SouthCity:
“Most of the top athletes from the Commonwealth stayed away from the last Commonwealth Games. It remains to be seen how many can be bothered to turn up in 2014.

The Olympics and the World Championships are the ones that really matter.”

That was because they stayed away due to human rights concerns and safety issues in India. They won't have those issues in Scotland!
jake lyle
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by SouthCity:
“Interesting article but no need for any alarm bells at ITV.
.”

Really after another Spring/ Summer of new flops, there is no need for alarm bells! That was before the X factor started posting 15-20% year on year falls. I wont even start on returning hits Dancing on Ice and Red or Black.

Oh and didn't ITV broadcast half of the World Cup.
mlt11
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by KennyT:
“Can't see it stated but does it include ITVHD?

K”

I don't know.

From the way the article is written I would have thought it should do but as I say I don't know.
Brekkie
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“There isn't much left of the old BBC/ITV only households now. I'd find it odd if you found someone who says they only watch one channel now.”

The BBC and ITV have hidden somewhat behind the vast explosion in TV channels but in reality less people stick with one channel for a night as scheduling is so poor now it's very rare, especially on weeknights, to have an entires evening schedule with programmes that complement each other nicely and encourage you to stick with a station throughout the night.

Originally Posted by SouthCity:
“Most of the top athletes from the Commonwealth stayed away from the last Commonwealth Games. It remains to be seen how many can be bothered to turn up in 2014.

The Olympics/Paraympics and the World Championships are the ones that really matter.”

It's back in July though rather than October as in 2010 or March as in 2006, so should be a much stronger field this time around. It'll be interesting too to see whether the BBC will gamble with it on BBC1 in primetime after London 2012, or keep as much of it on BBC2 as possible.
mlt11
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“There could also be unscheduled events that attract big BBC1 audiences such as the death of the Duke of Edinburgh, the death of The Queen and a Coronation. I predict all these events during the next 6 years.”

And there is still a very eligible bachelor who will presumably be getting married at some point!
wizzywick
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“The BBC and ITV have hidden somewhat behind the vast explosion in TV channels but in reality less people stick with one channel for a night as scheduling is so poor now it's very rare, especially on weeknights, to have an entires evening schedule with programmes that complement each other nicely and encourage you to stick with a station throughout the night.


It's back in July though rather than October as in 2010 or March as in 2006, so should be a much stronger field this time around. It'll be interesting too to see whether the BBC will gamble with it on BBC1 in primetime after London 2012, or keep as much of it on BBC2 as possible.”

The BBC haven't got the rights yet though have they?
wizzywick
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by mlt11:
“And there is still a very eligible bachelor who will presumably be getting married at some point!”

What! Cliff Richard?
danisfunny
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“There could also be unscheduled events that attract big BBC1 audiences such as the death of the Duke of Edinburgh, the death of The Queen and a Coronation. I predict all these events during the next 6 years.”

How cheery... But they won't be too high, because sky and itv, as it'll then be called, will no doubt cover it aswell...

Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“That was because they stayed away due to human rights concerns and safety issues in India. They won't have those issues in Scotland!”

Hmmm... I dunno, my friend went there in a gap year... The things she saw...
Agent F
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by SamuelW:
“BBC press office says that Andrew Marrs History of the World is eight episodes and this is going to be against Downton abbey all series. Good luck to it, I say, it'll need it.”

Sensible scheduling. A decent, genuine alternative, unlike last year when they decided to schedule Spooks against Downton for some bizarre reason.
Glenn A
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“The BBC and ITV have hidden somewhat behind the vast explosion in TV channels but in reality less people stick with one channel for a night as scheduling is so poor now it's very rare, especially on weeknights, to have an entires evening schedule with programmes that complement each other nicely and encourage you to stick with a station throughout the night.


It's back in July though rather than October as in 2010 or March as in 2006, so should be a much stronger field this time around. It'll be interesting too to see whether the BBC will gamble with it on BBC1 in primetime after London 2012, or keep as much of it on BBC2 as possible.”

Well I would say I flick between BBC One, BBC Two, BBC Four, Channel 5, Channel 4, More 4, ITV1 and 2 through the night. However, I must admit I almost never watch ITV2 and BBC Three.
Georged123
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by Agent F:
“Sensible scheduling. A decent, genuine alternative, unlike last year when they decided to schedule Spooks against Downton for some bizarre reason.”

Spooks and Downton are very different dramas, just because they are in the same genre doesn't mean there will be a huge crossover audience.

History of The World will probably skew old and have a high number of ABC1s, probably similar to Downton.
sn_22
06-09-2012
Not a storming start for Dallas (considering the expectations) but if the steadiness of the ratings over the episode is an indication of future performance, then it might just work out in the longer run.

Mrs Biggs failed to really land a punch, and looks in danger of fading into relative obscurity over the coming weeks in what is a very competitive timeslot. WDYTYA? was decent again and can always be relied upon, though clearly the formats' days as a genuine big-hitter are well behind it. I don't suppose the dire lead-in from the Flowerpot Gang really helps. For all the good things that I think Danny Cohen is doing at BBC One, pre watershed on weekdays remains a huge problem. It's not easy to fix with soaps everywhere, but there has to be better than that, surely?

Difficult to fathom what is really happening in the early evening to the likes of The One Show and Emmerdale. I guess the Paralympics (whose ratings have been superbly steady, if not generating huge peaks) must be hitting hard compared to what you'd usually see from C4. I'm sure they'll both recover on the run into Christmas.
Martin Phillp
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by SouthCity:
“Most of the top athletes from the Commonwealth stayed away from the last Commonwealth Games. It remains to be seen how many can be bothered to turn up in 2014.

The Olympics and the World Championships are the ones that really matter.”

If Team GB can get the big names from London 2012, that should be enough to get reasonable ratings off the back of the Olympics.

While Bolt can bring in the viewers, don't underestimate the popularity of the British athletes.
AlexiR
06-09-2012
Originally Posted by sn_22:
“Difficult to fathom what is really happening in the early evening to the likes of The One Show and Emmerdale. I guess the Paralympics (whose ratings have been superbly steady, if not generating huge peaks) must be hitting hard compared to what you'd usually see from C4. I'm sure they'll both recover on the run into Christmas.”

Or I can cling to my hope that people have just grown tired of The One Show and it won't recover...

I know I've brought this up lately but I really cannot understand why we need so many episodes of The One Show a year and I cannot for the life of me understand why they need an hour long edition of the show anywhere on the schedule ever. I know it fills a lot of PSB requirements but surely there are better ways to do that?
Salv*
06-09-2012
Channel 5 had a very good night for them if you think about it in past terms.

8pm BB gets 2m. One of the highest ever Ch5 8pm ratings (as Ch5 on 8pm barely can scrape anyway near 1m)

9pm Dallas gets 3m. One of the highest (Top 3?) ratings for Ch5 this year.

10:15pm BB of 1.9m gets one of the biggest shares of BB since it started it's regular or CBB run.
Dancc
06-09-2012
Somebody asked about Dallas demos, so here they are in full alongside demo info for the series premieres of C5's other two big imports this year:

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4490/c5demos.png

Dallas not as old-skewing as you'd expect. It was especially popular with Adults 35-44. The peak share in Women 35-44 was 30%.

In Adults 16-34 meanwhile it had more viewers than recent episodes of New Tricks and Accused, amongst other top dramas.
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