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The Ratings Thread (Part 40)
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Originally Posted by AlexiR:
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Bones is in no danger. Its Fox's best rated drama by some considerable margin.
On the subject of Mob Doctor I wonder if Fox might be better off drafting in Fringe to replace it. If you're going to send a show to be slaughtered on Monday night it may as well be the cheap drama that's ending its run this year. Touch might still find an audience of some kind on Friday but it certainly won't find one on Monday night.”
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Bones is in no danger. Its Fox's best rated drama by some considerable margin.
On the subject of Mob Doctor I wonder if Fox might be better off drafting in Fringe to replace it. If you're going to send a show to be slaughtered on Monday night it may as well be the cheap drama that's ending its run this year. Touch might still find an audience of some kind on Friday but it certainly won't find one on Monday night.”
I think Bones will run for another two or three more seasons at least, I'd imagine FOX will want it to get to 200 episodes which is doable and they own it unlike House which was a Universal show.
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“US numbers
The Voice – 4.6 [Half Hours: 4.1 / 4.6 / 4.8 / 5.0]
Revolution – 4.1 [Half Hours: 4.4 / 3.8]
Bones – 2.3 [Half Hours: 2.2 / 2.4]
The Mob Doctor – 1.5 [Half Hours: 1.5 / 1.5]
CBS was all repeats (although an hour long 2 Broke Girls beat The Mob Doctor at 9PM by a tenth) and ABC had a country music special which averaged a 1.7 over three hours.”
“US numbers
The Voice – 4.6 [Half Hours: 4.1 / 4.6 / 4.8 / 5.0]
Revolution – 4.1 [Half Hours: 4.4 / 3.8]
Bones – 2.3 [Half Hours: 2.2 / 2.4]
The Mob Doctor – 1.5 [Half Hours: 1.5 / 1.5]
CBS was all repeats (although an hour long 2 Broke Girls beat The Mob Doctor at 9PM by a tenth) and ABC had a country music special which averaged a 1.7 over three hours.”
The Voice up on last week will have NBC very very pleased.
Their bet paid off; be interesting to see how X Factor fares in comparison.
Originally Posted by davey_wavey:
“Bad Girls was a serious credible drama in its first three series and an example of the quality of drama ITV should be making. It only went a bit trashy in its later series. I would agree that Footballers Wives was trashy from the start though!
Downton Abbey is great for ITV and I would say is a perfect example of the high quality drama they offer in 2012. It has high production values, some beautiful scenery and costume, and great acting. I think it's a pleasure to still see high quality drama such as this commanding 9m+ audiences in this day and age. Downton has that great cosy feeling that suits Sunday nights.
When other dramas such as Peak Practice, Bad Girls, London's Burning was around, it was easier for them to get this high an audience. For Downton in 2012, it is a real achievement.”
“Bad Girls was a serious credible drama in its first three series and an example of the quality of drama ITV should be making. It only went a bit trashy in its later series. I would agree that Footballers Wives was trashy from the start though!
Downton Abbey is great for ITV and I would say is a perfect example of the high quality drama they offer in 2012. It has high production values, some beautiful scenery and costume, and great acting. I think it's a pleasure to still see high quality drama such as this commanding 9m+ audiences in this day and age. Downton has that great cosy feeling that suits Sunday nights.
When other dramas such as Peak Practice, Bad Girls, London's Burning was around, it was easier for them to get this high an audience. For Downton in 2012, it is a real achievement.”
With the greatest respect, if DA is the best ITV can offer, it's set its sights pretty low. Yes, the viewing figures are fantastic - but Nosnikrapl is quite right - it's a costume soap, no more, no less. Yes, its ratings are indeed a real achievement, but does it break new ground as well as pulling in mass audiences, in the way that Prime Suspect or Cracker did? No. DA was commissioned off the back of Julian Fellowes' hit movie Gosford Park and the massive success of BBC One's Cranford. All of which is fine - but, creatively, it's not much an achievement at all ... more going over old territory.
And London's Burning was known to get more than double what DA pulled on Sunday night - remarkable for that time - so, while we may live in a different world, DA still has some way to go before its popularity can be compared to ITV's glory days for drama.
Does it matter if Downton Abbey is the height of originality or creativity or not? That's not what its designed to be nor how it presents itself. Its a Sunday night costume drama its supposed to be comfortingly familiar and it is. Downton's selling point is that its a great example of what it is not that it reinvents the wheel.
I'm surprised ITV haven't tried hiring Heidi Thomas for a drama given that she's created two of the most successful BBC drama like Call the Midwife and Cranford.
Costume dramas have alway had success but I think they've almost exhausted the classics like Austen, The Brontes and Dickens, I like that BBC have adapted novels or biographies that are more in the 20th Century like South Riding and Call the Midwife.
Costume dramas have alway had success but I think they've almost exhausted the classics like Austen, The Brontes and Dickens, I like that BBC have adapted novels or biographies that are more in the 20th Century like South Riding and Call the Midwife.
Originally Posted by trickytree1979:
“Just logged on and seen a request from D.M.N, so not sure whether this has already been answered but here is the cumulative audience for Sunday's X-Factor vs Downton.
X-Factor
Live - 7899
Live+VOSDAL (overnights) - 9333
Overnights + 1 Day - 9572
Downton
Live - 7914
Live+VOSDAL (overnights) - 8656
Overnights + 1 Day - 9324
Downton - XF
Live - (15)
Live+VOSDAL (overnights) - (-677)
Overnights + 1 Day - (-248)
Interestingly Downton had the most live viewers (in the realms of confidence intervals that is by far a score draw!) but TXF had many more VOSDAL viewers which opened up a lead of nearly 700k viewers. 1 day later, that gap has closed to within 250k.”
“Just logged on and seen a request from D.M.N, so not sure whether this has already been answered but here is the cumulative audience for Sunday's X-Factor vs Downton.
X-Factor
Live - 7899
Live+VOSDAL (overnights) - 9333
Overnights + 1 Day - 9572
Downton
Live - 7914
Live+VOSDAL (overnights) - 8656
Overnights + 1 Day - 9324
Downton - XF
Live - (15)
Live+VOSDAL (overnights) - (-677)
Overnights + 1 Day - (-248)
Interestingly Downton had the most live viewers (in the realms of confidence intervals that is by far a score draw!) but TXF had many more VOSDAL viewers which opened up a lead of nearly 700k viewers. 1 day later, that gap has closed to within 250k.”
Thank you!
Definitely interesting to see that Downton was ahead of the raw live ratings! Pretty certain to see that it will overtake X Factor, and it appears X Factor may not get above 10m with only a 239k timeshift in a day! 
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“US numbers
The Voice – 4.6 [Half Hours: 4.1 / 4.6 / 4.8 / 5.0]
Revolution – 4.1 [Half Hours: 4.4 / 3.8]
Bones – 2.3 [Half Hours: 2.2 / 2.4]
The Mob Doctor – 1.5 [Half Hours: 1.5 / 1.5]
CBS was all repeats (although an hour long 2 Broke Girls beat The Mob Doctor at 9PM by a tenth) and ABC had a country music special which averaged a 1.7 over three hours.”
“US numbers
The Voice – 4.6 [Half Hours: 4.1 / 4.6 / 4.8 / 5.0]
Revolution – 4.1 [Half Hours: 4.4 / 3.8]
Bones – 2.3 [Half Hours: 2.2 / 2.4]
The Mob Doctor – 1.5 [Half Hours: 1.5 / 1.5]
CBS was all repeats (although an hour long 2 Broke Girls beat The Mob Doctor at 9PM by a tenth) and ABC had a country music special which averaged a 1.7 over three hours.”
Impressive how The Voice grew over the course of 2 hours. Imagine if NBC did their "special" Wednesday airing again and the numbers kept increasing?
Speaking of which, Shakira and Usher have been confirmed as new judges of The Voice's spring cycle. They are filling in for Cee Lo Green and Christina Aguilera, as they have new music to promote and to tour. I still think having two cycles of a singing talent show is excessive, but I also think Shakira is an interesting choice. No doubt Blake Shelton and Adam Levine will be taking the spring off and we should see who their replacements could be. I said The Mob Doctor will last four because FOX simply is waiting for either ABC or NBC to drop their shows first - that being The Neighbors or Animal Hospital. If neither are cancelled in a few weeks (which I will be then be in shock), then FOX will just give up and drop The Mob Doctor. I think CBS' Partners will hold out to around 10 to 13 before the axe. Made in Jersey will last 8. I will also not be shocked when Touch does replace The Mob Doctor, Touch will be axed by the end of the year. Their ratings were not great all and just scraped a renewal. Additionally, their "lost" episode which aired on Friday tanked as well. CW's ANTM was only a tenth behind them in the finals (0.7 vs 0.6).
Bones rated alright, given that it is their eighth season. They will survive against DWTS and CBS comedies. If Bones ratings gets worse, this season will be their last. Stagnant or above, one more season, anywhere on a Mon-Thurs slot (season 9, 2013-14), then the Friday night slot for their following season (season 10, 2014-15). I can also see Grey's Anatomy reaching their tenth season (and further, if the ratings warrants it). Their ratings were between 3.5-4 last season and they should cruise this season. Person of Interest is not really a 18-49 winner and Glee continues to bleed. NBC's The Office's final season can challenge (Parks won't) but will be no threat.
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“Does it matter if Downton Abbey is the height of originality or creativity or not? That's not what its designed to be nor how it presents itself. Its a Sunday night costume drama its supposed to be comfortingly familiar and it is. Downton's selling point is that its a great example of what it is not that it reinvents the wheel.”
“Does it matter if Downton Abbey is the height of originality or creativity or not? That's not what its designed to be nor how it presents itself. Its a Sunday night costume drama its supposed to be comfortingly familiar and it is. Downton's selling point is that its a great example of what it is not that it reinvents the wheel.”
I quite agree. But I was responding to to the description of the programme as this:
Quote:
“a perfect example of the high quality drama they offer in 2012”
“a perfect example of the high quality drama they offer in 2012”
Which is broader than something just being comfortingly familiar ...
I think David Mitchell has some words about DA on this thread
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b87E3kamWOg
but more importantly my view on Downton Abbey.
When Downton Abbey first started, and after we had all stop singing the "Emma Bunton Classic & Strictly Come Dancing" Classic "Downtown".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhD4rXkV0yo
as covered by Harry Hill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nmQChtb31M
anyways im getting lost in YouTube.
*pauses video so he can focus on writing post, not Emma Bunton*
When Downton Abbey first started, and after we had all stop singing the "Emma Bunton Classic & Strictly Come Dancing" Classic "Downtown", it was held up by many as one of the best dramas ever in the history of if not ITV, TV all together.
If people are now calling it a soap, then the show has obviously gone down hill a bit.
Personally I cant stand costume drama, so for me, it was one in a long line of boring programs I was never going to watch.
*goes back to Emma Bunton video*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b87E3kamWOg
but more importantly my view on Downton Abbey.
When Downton Abbey first started, and after we had all stop singing the "Emma Bunton Classic & Strictly Come Dancing" Classic "Downtown".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhD4rXkV0yo
as covered by Harry Hill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nmQChtb31M
anyways im getting lost in YouTube.
*pauses video so he can focus on writing post, not Emma Bunton*
When Downton Abbey first started, and after we had all stop singing the "Emma Bunton Classic & Strictly Come Dancing" Classic "Downtown", it was held up by many as one of the best dramas ever in the history of if not ITV, TV all together.
If people are now calling it a soap, then the show has obviously gone down hill a bit.
Personally I cant stand costume drama, so for me, it was one in a long line of boring programs I was never going to watch.
*goes back to Emma Bunton video*
Originally Posted by paltonz:
“No doubt Blake Shelton and Adam Levine will be taking the spring off and we should see who their replacements could be.”
“No doubt Blake Shelton and Adam Levine will be taking the spring off and we should see who their replacements could be.”
Nope the panel for the Spring cycle is set to be Adam Levine, Blake Shelton, Shakira and Usher. As I said yesterday Usher is a big and impressive get for them. Particularly as rumour has it he's turned down American Idol several times over the years.
It'll be interesting to see what NBC do with The Voice for 2013-2014 and what they do with the coaches line-up. If they do two cycles again I wonder if we might see Christina and Cee Lo brought back for Fall 2013 with two new coaches replacing Adam and Blake and then the Adam, Blake, Usher and Shakira line-up returning midseason. That would at least give some sense of purpose to having two cycles a year although it does still feel like overkill.
Quote:
“I said The Mob Doctor will last four because FOX simply is waiting for either ABC or NBC to drop their shows first...”
“I said The Mob Doctor will last four because FOX simply is waiting for either ABC or NBC to drop their shows first...”
It depends how it does in week two. If it drops (and I'd be amazed if it doesn't) then I suspect they'll pull it regardless of what's going on at ABC and NBC. Also frankly I'd imagine Guys with Kids is in more immediate danger than Animal Practice on NBC. In terms of what they replace it with they've got a lot of episodes of Bones lined up for this season as they make up grounds for hiatus and the like the last couple of seasons. My guess is that they double up on Bones until baseball and then make a decision when they've seen how everything else pans out. As I said I think Fringe is probably their better option for the rest of the Fall but we'll see what happens.
Quote:
“I can also see Grey's Anatomy reaching their tenth season (and further, if the ratings warrants it). Their ratings are still between 3.5-4 and they should cruise this season. Person of Interest is not really a 18-49 winner and Glee continues to bleed. NBC's The Office's final season can challenge (Parks won't) but will be no threat.”
“I can also see Grey's Anatomy reaching their tenth season (and further, if the ratings warrants it). Their ratings are still between 3.5-4 and they should cruise this season. Person of Interest is not really a 18-49 winner and Glee continues to bleed. NBC's The Office's final season can challenge (Parks won't) but will be no threat.”
Grey's is very expensive and it'll cost them a lot to get the cast back for a tenth season. Having said that I tend to agree that it'll get another year. If ABC have any sense they'll move it to 10PM for a final season and get aggressive with something new in that slot, which as you say is very much open for the taking. I suspect NBC has their eye on launching their new Michael J Fox series there next year and I wonder if it might get treatment similar to Glee on Fox – a special sneak preview of the first episode at the end of this season. Maybe out of The Voice or The Office finale.
Also as I've said before I think CBS have Person of Interest and Elementary the wrong way round. Elementary should probably be at 9PM with PoI at 10PM. Especially since they've shipped Two and a Half Men over to Thursday night to strengthen the 8PM hour. It just makes no sense not to launch a big new drama in that slot especially not when said big new drama is perfect for the networks brand and actually surprisingly good. Its weird scheduling.
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“I quite agree. But I was responding to to the description of the programme as this.. Which is broader than something just being comfortingly familiar ...”
“I quite agree. But I was responding to to the description of the programme as this.. Which is broader than something just being comfortingly familiar ...”
That its comfortable and familiar doesn't mean it isn't high quality though.
Originally Posted by paltonz:
“Bones rated alright, given that it is their eighth season. They will survive against DWTS and CBS comedies. If Bones ratings gets worse, this season will be their last. Stagnant or above, one more season, anywhere on a Mon-Thurs slot (season 9, 2013-14), then the Friday night slot for their following season (season 10, 2014-15). I can also see Grey's Anatomy reaching their tenth season (and further, if the ratings warrants it). Their ratings were between 3.5-4 last season and they should cruise this season. Person of Interest is not really a 18-49 winner and Glee continues to bleed. NBC's The Office's final season can challenge (Parks won't) but will be no threat.”
“Bones rated alright, given that it is their eighth season. They will survive against DWTS and CBS comedies. If Bones ratings gets worse, this season will be their last. Stagnant or above, one more season, anywhere on a Mon-Thurs slot (season 9, 2013-14), then the Friday night slot for their following season (season 10, 2014-15). I can also see Grey's Anatomy reaching their tenth season (and further, if the ratings warrants it). Their ratings were between 3.5-4 last season and they should cruise this season. Person of Interest is not really a 18-49 winner and Glee continues to bleed. NBC's The Office's final season can challenge (Parks won't) but will be no threat.”
I think Grey's has a few more season in it but is the one of the only show left of the successful season that ABC had in 2004-2005 and I imagine it's getting more expensive. Private Practice I think this will be the final season but it was never a huge hit for ABC.
Partners I'm unsure about, it'll probably run for at least 13 episodes and either Rules of Engagement or Friend Me will take it slot.
Thought this was interesting...
Broadcast TV Viewers: You're Not The Customer, You're The Product Being Sold
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...g-sold/146373/
Broadcast TV Viewers: You're Not The Customer, You're The Product Being Sold
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...g-sold/146373/
More on the US premieres
http://www.attentional.com/screenwatch-us/
http://www.attentional.com/screenwatch-us/
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“Grey's is very expensive and it'll cost them a lot to get the cast back for a tenth season. Having said that I tend to agree that it'll get another year. If ABC have any sense they'll move it to 10PM for a final season and get aggressive with something new in that slot, which as you say is very much open for the taking.”
“Grey's is very expensive and it'll cost them a lot to get the cast back for a tenth season. Having said that I tend to agree that it'll get another year. If ABC have any sense they'll move it to 10PM for a final season and get aggressive with something new in that slot, which as you say is very much open for the taking.”
I'm sure I read they all signed two year contracts, so I think it will definitely get a final season next year if it's ratings don't drop dramatically, and even if it does drop I imagine it would still get a reduced season.
Hoping Scandal does well this season, it was surprisingly good and iirc it was steady but low last series.
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Thank you! Definitely interesting to see that Downton was ahead of the raw live ratings! Pretty certain to see that it will overtake X Factor, and it appears X Factor may not get above 10m with only a 239k timeshift in a day! ”
“Thank you!
Definitely interesting to see that Downton was ahead of the raw live ratings! Pretty certain to see that it will overtake X Factor, and it appears X Factor may not get above 10m with only a 239k timeshift in a day! ”
I think those are just timeshifting though; the ads haven't been stipped out yet (
); unless am wrong.
Originally Posted by tamibeckett:
“Thought this was interesting...
Broadcast TV Viewers: You're Not The Customer, You're The Product Being Sold
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...g-sold/146373/”
“Thought this was interesting...
Broadcast TV Viewers: You're Not The Customer, You're The Product Being Sold
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...g-sold/146373/”
this is of course true, however TV channels (of any type) cant afford to take that attitude, as viewers have shown they will go elsewhere, and be the product of someone else.
Take the pigs in the cartoon (viewers = pig) (barn = TV channel) if they have free will, they can go a different barn, which they like more, more food, better looking female pigs, nicer interior, that kind of thing.
Unlike pigs, our free will, means we can be the product (yeah I know I said that, but stick with me) of whichever TV channel we choose.
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Hope he enjoyed his time in the limelight, travelling the world.
Now for a wet Tuesday night in Sunderland in February. And TV obscurity.
Wonder if Lee will get the Beeb F 1 gig then?”
“Hope he enjoyed his time in the limelight, travelling the world.
Now for a wet Tuesday night in Sunderland in February. And TV obscurity.
Wonder if Lee will get the Beeb F 1 gig then?”
TV presenters don't just make decisions based on limelight though.
With his wife expecting, it seems like a fairly obvious choice for Jake. He probably feels he can't carry on being out of the country for 20 long weekends a year - and in that context, the BBC don't have much sport for him to turn to (assuming that Lineker sticks with MOTD). This deal gives him a regular, reasonably prestigious, well-paid presenting gig - but allows him to return to his own home every night.
Perfectly understandable for someone in his position, even if it might not do his long-term profile the world of good.
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“this is of course true, however TV channels (of any type) cant afford to take that attitude, as viewers have shown they will go elsewhere, and be the product of someone else.
Take the pigs in the cartoon (viewers = pig) (barn = TV channel) if they have free will, they can go a different barn, which they like more, more food, better looking female pigs, nicer interior, that kind of thing.
Unlike pigs, our free will, means we can be the product (yeah I know I said that, but stick with me) of whichever TV channel we choose.”
“this is of course true, however TV channels (of any type) cant afford to take that attitude, as viewers have shown they will go elsewhere, and be the product of someone else.
Take the pigs in the cartoon (viewers = pig) (barn = TV channel) if they have free will, they can go a different barn, which they like more, more food, better looking female pigs, nicer interior, that kind of thing.
Unlike pigs, our free will, means we can be the product (yeah I know I said that, but stick with me) of whichever TV channel we choose.”
I don't think networks do take that attitude as frequently or as obviously...but basically this is the bottom line.
EDIT: bottom line as for what the article is saying..
Monday 17th September 2012
BBC One
13:45 - Doctors: 1.36m (20.5%)
18:00 - BBC News at Six: 4.265m (25%)
18:30 - BBC Regional News: 5.34m (29%)
19:00 - The One Show: 3.80m (19%)
20:00 - EastEnders: 7.55m (30.8%)
20:30 - Panorama: 2.18m (8.9%)
21:00 - New Tricks: 7.42m (30.1%)
22:00 - BBC News at Ten: 4.84m (25%)
22:35 - Citizen Khan: 2.29m (16.4%)
BBC Two
20:00 - University Challenge: 2.49m (10.2%)
20:30 - Lorraine's Fresh, Fast and Easy Food: 2.08m (8.5%)
21:00 - Masters of Money: 981k (3.99%) inc HD
* slot average: 1.65m (6.7%)
ITV1
19:00 - Emmerdale: 6.72m (33.8%), +1: 148k (0.6%)
19:30 - Coronation Street: 8.45m (39.1%), +1: 215k (0.9%)
20:00 - Paul O'Grady: For the Love of Dogs: 4.14m (16.96%), +1: 301k (1.21%)
20:30 - Coronation Street: 8.85m (35.9%), +1: 284k (1.2%)
21:00 - Leaving: 3.44m (13.97%), +1: 266k (1.57%)
Channel 4
18:30 - Hollyoaks: 1.00m (5.4%)
* when was the last time Hollyoaks hit 1 million?!
20:00 - Dispatches: 2.31m (9.4%), +1: 491k (2.0%)
* highest audience since January 22nd, 2009 when it had 3.16m (13.26%)
* slot average: 1.00m (4.29%)
20:30 - Food Unwrapped: 1.83m (7.4%), +1: 279k (1.1%)
21:00 - 999: What's Your Emergency: 2.07m (8.4%), +1: 518k (3.1%)
22:00 - Rude Tube: 1.09m (6.6%), +1: 124k (1.5%)
Channel 5
13:45 - Neighbours: 659k (10.0%)
17:30 - Neighbours: 936k (6.5%)
18:00 - Home and Away: 631k (3.7%)
20:00 - Frontline Police: 720k (2.9%)
21:00 - Cowboy Builders: 764k (3.1%), +1: 56k (0.33%)
Primetime Shares
BBC One - 22.6%
ITV1 - 21.7% (+1: 0.9%)
Channel 4 - 6.7% (+1: 1.3%)
BBC Two - 6.0%
Sky Sports 1 - 3.7%
Channel 5 - 3.0% (+1: 0.2%)
All Day Shares inc +1's
BBC One - 21.5%
ITV1 - 18.9%
Channel 4 - 7.0%
BBC Two - 6.1%
Channel 5 - 4.1%
ITV2 - 2.9%
E4 - 2.4%
ITV3 - 2.1%
Multichannels
5*
18:30 - Home and Away: 458k (2.5%)
BBC Three
21:00 - Tourettes: Let Me Entertain You: 601k (2.4%)
22:30 - EastEnders: 531k (3.6%)
23:00 - Family Guy: 629k (6.0%)
23:20 - Family Guy: 581k (7.1%)
BBC Four
20:30 - Only Connect: 739k (3%)
Dave (inc +1)
21:40 - Have I Got News For You: 344k
E4
18:00 - The Big Bang Theory: 735k (4.3%) inc +1
18:30 - The Big Bang Theory: 891k (4.8%) inc +1
19:00 - Hollyoaks: 555k (2.8%), +1: 111k (0.5%)
21:00 - Revenge: 582k (2.4%) inc +1
22:00 - Hollyoaks Later: 463k (2.7%), +1: 111k (1.3%)
Film4 (inc +1)
18:55 - FILM: Romancing The Stone: 310k
21:00 - FILM: An Officer And A Gentleman: 278k
FX
22:00 - True Blood: 144k (0.8%)
ITV2 (inc +1)
21:00 - FILM: The Shawshank Redemption: 609k (3.6%)
More4 (inc +1)
18:50 - Come Dine With Me: 193.5k
21:00 - Grand Designs Australia: 303k
Really (inc +1)
20:00 - Hart Of Dixie: 161k
Sky Sports 1
19:00 - Live Ford Monday Night Football: 809k (3.7%)
Yesterday (inc +1)
19:20 - Last Of The Summer Wine: 231k
Source: Attentional, Broadcast, C4 Sales, DS (1, 2), ITV Media
BBC One
13:45 - Doctors: 1.36m (20.5%)
18:00 - BBC News at Six: 4.265m (25%)
18:30 - BBC Regional News: 5.34m (29%)
19:00 - The One Show: 3.80m (19%)
20:00 - EastEnders: 7.55m (30.8%)
20:30 - Panorama: 2.18m (8.9%)
21:00 - New Tricks: 7.42m (30.1%)
22:00 - BBC News at Ten: 4.84m (25%)
22:35 - Citizen Khan: 2.29m (16.4%)
BBC Two
20:00 - University Challenge: 2.49m (10.2%)
20:30 - Lorraine's Fresh, Fast and Easy Food: 2.08m (8.5%)
21:00 - Masters of Money: 981k (3.99%) inc HD
* slot average: 1.65m (6.7%)
ITV1
19:00 - Emmerdale: 6.72m (33.8%), +1: 148k (0.6%)
19:30 - Coronation Street: 8.45m (39.1%), +1: 215k (0.9%)
20:00 - Paul O'Grady: For the Love of Dogs: 4.14m (16.96%), +1: 301k (1.21%)
20:30 - Coronation Street: 8.85m (35.9%), +1: 284k (1.2%)
21:00 - Leaving: 3.44m (13.97%), +1: 266k (1.57%)
Channel 4
18:30 - Hollyoaks: 1.00m (5.4%)
* when was the last time Hollyoaks hit 1 million?!
20:00 - Dispatches: 2.31m (9.4%), +1: 491k (2.0%)
* highest audience since January 22nd, 2009 when it had 3.16m (13.26%)
* slot average: 1.00m (4.29%)
20:30 - Food Unwrapped: 1.83m (7.4%), +1: 279k (1.1%)
21:00 - 999: What's Your Emergency: 2.07m (8.4%), +1: 518k (3.1%)
22:00 - Rude Tube: 1.09m (6.6%), +1: 124k (1.5%)
Channel 5
13:45 - Neighbours: 659k (10.0%)
17:30 - Neighbours: 936k (6.5%)
18:00 - Home and Away: 631k (3.7%)
20:00 - Frontline Police: 720k (2.9%)
21:00 - Cowboy Builders: 764k (3.1%), +1: 56k (0.33%)
Primetime Shares
BBC One - 22.6%
ITV1 - 21.7% (+1: 0.9%)
Channel 4 - 6.7% (+1: 1.3%)
BBC Two - 6.0%
Sky Sports 1 - 3.7%
Channel 5 - 3.0% (+1: 0.2%)
All Day Shares inc +1's
BBC One - 21.5%
ITV1 - 18.9%
Channel 4 - 7.0%
BBC Two - 6.1%
Channel 5 - 4.1%
ITV2 - 2.9%
E4 - 2.4%
ITV3 - 2.1%
Multichannels
5*
18:30 - Home and Away: 458k (2.5%)
BBC Three
21:00 - Tourettes: Let Me Entertain You: 601k (2.4%)
22:30 - EastEnders: 531k (3.6%)
23:00 - Family Guy: 629k (6.0%)
23:20 - Family Guy: 581k (7.1%)
BBC Four
20:30 - Only Connect: 739k (3%)
Dave (inc +1)
21:40 - Have I Got News For You: 344k
E4
18:00 - The Big Bang Theory: 735k (4.3%) inc +1
18:30 - The Big Bang Theory: 891k (4.8%) inc +1
19:00 - Hollyoaks: 555k (2.8%), +1: 111k (0.5%)
21:00 - Revenge: 582k (2.4%) inc +1
22:00 - Hollyoaks Later: 463k (2.7%), +1: 111k (1.3%)
Film4 (inc +1)
18:55 - FILM: Romancing The Stone: 310k
21:00 - FILM: An Officer And A Gentleman: 278k
FX
22:00 - True Blood: 144k (0.8%)
ITV2 (inc +1)
21:00 - FILM: The Shawshank Redemption: 609k (3.6%)
More4 (inc +1)
18:50 - Come Dine With Me: 193.5k
21:00 - Grand Designs Australia: 303k
Really (inc +1)
20:00 - Hart Of Dixie: 161k
Sky Sports 1
19:00 - Live Ford Monday Night Football: 809k (3.7%)
Yesterday (inc +1)
19:20 - Last Of The Summer Wine: 231k
Source: Attentional, Broadcast, C4 Sales, DS (1, 2), ITV Media
Originally Posted by guestofseth:
“I'm sure I read they all signed two year contracts, so I think it will definitely get a final season next year if it's ratings don't drop dramatically, and even if it does drop I imagine it would still get a reduced season.
Hoping Scandal does well this year, it was surprisingly good and iirc it was steady but low last series.”
“I'm sure I read they all signed two year contracts, so I think it will definitely get a final season next year if it's ratings don't drop dramatically, and even if it does drop I imagine it would still get a reduced season.
Hoping Scandal does well this year, it was surprisingly good and iirc it was steady but low last series.”
After this season, they'll have done 194-196 episodes so even a reduced 13-16 episodes would be fine to wrap things up but I imagine it'll get a full final season.
I wonder if CSI: NY will be getting its final season, I believe like last season, it only has 18 episodes but I wouldn't be surprised if CBS gives it an additional 2 episodes to wrap things up. I imagine if Made in Jersey tanks, they can move it up an hour and order more episodes until Golden Boy is ready to debut.
The Corrie Monday night double-bill continues to do very good business for ITV1. The second episode is almost nudging 9m (exc +1). And its a giant 1.3m ahead of EE. I think EE is been hit quite hard by Paul O'Grady (4.44m inc +1) as EE had quite a poor share. NT continues to do well on BBC1 - but not as good as last year. Leaving did OK for ITV. Nothing great but its up against 7.4m on BBC1 so things could be worse. Terrible night for Channel 5. And only 764k for Cowboy Builders. Its a pretty decent show from the odd time I've seen it. It should be doing better.
Revolution started well but I wonder if there will be a bit of a drop off next week, I watched it and it was a bit messy and incoherent. Bit of a throw in everything but he kitchen sink and see what happens. Plus I doubt the budget will stretch to so many special effects in future episodes.
Originally Posted by tamibeckett:
“I don't think networks do take that attitude as frequently or as obviously...but basically this is the bottom line.
EDIT: bottom line as for what the article is saying..”
“I don't think networks do take that attitude as frequently or as obviously...but basically this is the bottom line.
EDIT: bottom line as for what the article is saying..”
it i the bottom line, and TV channels know they cant think like that, but it does show up when networks cancelled shows that a group of fans really love, viewers act like they are entitled to another season of the show, rather than just accept the reality of the situation.
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Monday 17th September 2012
BBC One
20:30 - Panorama: 2.18m (8.9%)
21:00 - New Tricks: 7.42m (30.1%)
22:35 - Citizen Khan: 2.29m (16.4%)
BBC Two
20:00 - University Challenge: 2.49m (10.2%)
20:30 - Lorraine's Fresh, Fast and Easy Food: 2.08m (8.5%)
21:00 - Masters of Money: 982k (4%)
ITV1
20:00 - Paul O'Grady: For the Love of Dogs: 4.14m (16.9%), +1: 301k (1.2%)
21:00 - Leaving: 3.44m (14%), +1: 266k (1.6%)
Channel 4
21:00 - 999: What's Your Emergency: 2.07m (8.4%), +1: 518k (3.1%)
22:00 - Rude Tube: 1.09m (6.6%), +1: 124k (1.5%)
Channel 5
20:00 - Frontline Police: 720k (2.9%)
21:00 - Cowboy Builders: 764k (3.1%)
Primetime Shares
BBC One - 22.6%
ITV1 - 21.7% (+1: 0.9%)
Channel 4 - 6.7% (+1: 1.3%)
BBC Two - 6.0%
Sky Sports 1 - 3.7%
Channel 5 - 3.0% (+1: 0.2%)”
“Monday 17th September 2012
BBC One
20:30 - Panorama: 2.18m (8.9%)
21:00 - New Tricks: 7.42m (30.1%)
22:35 - Citizen Khan: 2.29m (16.4%)
BBC Two
20:00 - University Challenge: 2.49m (10.2%)
20:30 - Lorraine's Fresh, Fast and Easy Food: 2.08m (8.5%)
21:00 - Masters of Money: 982k (4%)
ITV1
20:00 - Paul O'Grady: For the Love of Dogs: 4.14m (16.9%), +1: 301k (1.2%)
21:00 - Leaving: 3.44m (14%), +1: 266k (1.6%)
Channel 4
21:00 - 999: What's Your Emergency: 2.07m (8.4%), +1: 518k (3.1%)
22:00 - Rude Tube: 1.09m (6.6%), +1: 124k (1.5%)
Channel 5
20:00 - Frontline Police: 720k (2.9%)
21:00 - Cowboy Builders: 764k (3.1%)
Primetime Shares
BBC One - 22.6%
ITV1 - 21.7% (+1: 0.9%)
Channel 4 - 6.7% (+1: 1.3%)
BBC Two - 6.0%
Sky Sports 1 - 3.7%
Channel 5 - 3.0% (+1: 0.2%)”
Not sure whether Citizen Khan is doing enough for a second series, but I think it might be. Similarly, Paul O'Grady's show is dropping off, too, but will probably get another run if he's up for it.
Leaving is limping, and Cowboy Builders is on the wrong day.
Mixed bag for Coronation St: one episode up on last Monday, and the other down. EastEnders up a tiny bit, and Emmerdale, too.
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