I can see it settling at 1.5m, and time shifting somewhat higher....pretty decent for C5, no other channel could have done much with it, it wouldn't have got primetime on BBC1 or ITV1, Channel 4 wouldn't have picked it up.

I cant understand why Dallas has lost almost half its audience in two weeks. It is critically acclaimed and very entertaining. I wonder if Channel5 will even pick up season 2 now?

Breaking: BBC postpones tonights episode of Good Cop following policewomen murders: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...n-murders.html

Understandable, but a shame DS don't know the difference between Marc Warren and Warren Brown...

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As said it's probably finding it's level now. It's been up against stiff competition to be fair - perhaps a Tuesday night at 9pm would have been better for C5 - a weaker ITV, DIY SOS on BBC1, Viking doc. on BBC2. On a Wednesday it's up against 2 other dramas (Good Cop & Mrs Biggs) & a strong Grand Designs on C4.

There seems to be a bit of mileage in the repeats on C5 & 5* though - so that will be encouraging for them.

IMO I think they will pick up season 2.

Channel 5 will continue to pick it up. It is also doing well as mentioned on 5* and Demand5, also I imagine once it finishes its run, it will be added to 5USA catalogue of programmes.

Dallas is getting good reviews, Wednesday is just a very competitive night.

Wednesday 19th September 2012
BBC One
13:45 - Doctors: 1.15m (17.9%)
17:15 - Pointless: 2.06m (15.5%)
20:00 - Watchdog: 4.75m (21.4%)
21:00 - Who Do You Think You Are?: 4.31m (18.9%)

BBC Two
19:00 - Celebrity MasterChef: 1.6m (8.2%)
20:00 - Antiques to the Rescue: 1.2m (5.4%)
21:00 - Dead Good Job: 943k (4.14%) inc HD

ITV1
17:00 - The Chase: 2.35m (18.9%), +1: 251k (1.5%)
19:00 - Emmerdale: 5.54m (28.4%), +1: 252k (1.2%)
19:30 - Coronation Street: 6.6m (31.7%), +1: 298k (1.3%)
20:00 - All Star Mr & Mrs: 4.18m (18.9%), +1: 158k (0.7%)
21:00 - Mrs Biggs: 4.08m (17.83%), +1: 333k (2.02%)
* series debut: 3.83m (17.35%)
* slot average: 4.4m (18.27%)

Channel 4
18:00 - The Simpsons: 1.26m inc +1
18:30 - Hollyoaks: 921k (5.2%)
20:00 - The Food Hospital: 1.46m (6.6%), +1: 253k (1.1%)
21:00 - Grand Designs: 2.06m (9.4%), +1: 434k (2.7%)

Channel 5
13:45 - Neighbours: 714k (11.1%)
17:30 - Neighbours: 837k (6.1%)
18:00 - Home and Away: 740k (4.5%)
20:00 - The Truth About Hillsborough: 633k (2.9%)
21:00 - Dallas: 1.57m (6.83%), +1: 148k (0.9%)
* slot average: 1.46m (6.06%)

Primetime Shares
ITV1 - 19.9% (+1: 1.0%)
BBC One - 19.5%
Channel 4 - 7.0% (+1: 1.2%)
BBC Two - 4.6%
Channel 5 - 3.9% (+1: 0.3%)

All Day Shares inc +1's
BBC One - 19.5%
ITV1 - 18.7%
Channel 4 - 7.0%
Channel 5 - 4.4%
BBC Two - 4.3%
ITV2 - 2.8%
ITV3 - 2.4%
E4 - 2.4%

Multichannels
5*
18:30 - Home and Away: 475k (2.7%)

Dave (inc +1)
21:00 - QI XL: 375k

E4
18:30 - The Big Bang Theory: 714k inc +1
19:00 - Hollyoaks: 547k (2.8%), +1: 166k (0.8%)
22:00 - Hollyoaks Later: 479k (3.0%), +1: 62.5k

Film4 (inc +1)
18:35 - FILM: Speed 2: Cruise Control: 243k
21:00 - FILM: Crazy Heart: 291k

More4 (inc +1)
21:00 - 24 Hours In A&E: 413k
22:00 - One Born Every Minute: 397k

Watch (inc +1)
19:00 - New MasterChef Australia: 167k

Yesterday (inc +1)
19:25 - Last Of The Summer Wine: 271k

Source: Broadcast, C4 Sales, DS (1, 2)

From Broadcast Now - Dallas - The US drama sunk to a new series low for Channel 5, but it remained above the station’s slot average of 1.46m (6.06%).

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I wonder why the ITV1 soap hour was so below-par - perhaps a stronger-than-usual One Show? Until ITV Media updates its top 10 I can't tell. The soaps did enough for ITV1 to squeak a primetime win, however, despite the channel losing the 8pm, 9pm and doubtless the 10pm hours.

Soap hour whilst down did alright (long as its just a one night event) but ITV really have gotten their swing back on Wednesdays. They used to advertise full nights all the time, it pulls better ratings than stretching your shows across a week and builds the ITV brand more as you've got promised quality nights.

They should do more days like this, and imo they have more to shout about what their doing on Wednesdays than their Sunday ratings. This should be ITV's future strategy for ITV1, concentrated programming to fill an entire night.


Also Dallas is doing poorly, but it is out on a very competitive night; any drop was going to be more noticeable because of this. Can't help feel it should be on at 8 though; I still think it fits more into the soap category than the weekly drama category.

Any ideas why Emmerdale and Coronation St dipped last night? Emmerdale is against The One Show every night, so it can't be that, and surely the football build-up wouldn't have had much effect?

Doctors seems to have been struggling for a couple of months. I thought it was just the school holidays, but clearly it's a deeper problem than that. And it was hardly warm yesterday, so we can't blame the weather either.

ITV Media has updated. The One Show got 3.4m/17%, so that wasn't the reason for the rather low soap ratings. Both ED and Corrie were down about a million viewers and 4-5 share points on last week, so there must have been a reason: perhaps the storylines were bigger last week.

Does anyone know when E4 are planning on showing the second season of New Girl?

Season 1 finishes next Tuesday, the same night Season 2 starts in the US. Are they going to be carrying straight through into S2?

The problem with this excuse is that it launched on this competitive night with around 3 million viewers and since then nearly half of them have switched off. This isn't just an example of a show being overshadowed by competition on the over channels. The audience knew it was there and have just stopped watching it.

That's not to say the number is a disaster or anything. Channel 5 should still be happy with what its doing. It just isn't the big show that they perhaps hoped it would be and that some had expected it would be.

I doubt it. They'd have to take some lengthy breaks if they ran it that quickly. My guess is they'll hold off until the new year. When they won't have to factor in baseball hiatus and winter hiatus in the US.

I would love a mass switch-off as I think its gotten old now, I really don't want to watch that for 2 hours. It was bad enough as a hour

X Factor USA averaged a 3.5 across the 2 hours last night, which was up slightly on last week (it'll most likely be adjusted up to a 3.6). That seems OK I guess and the 4.1 for the final half hour is vaguely encouraging. If it can hold an audience next week against full competition it should be OK, and whilst The Voice was comfortably ahead, that isn't a bad rating. My guess is that it'll be much closer between the two when the live shows roll around.

Elsewhere, Survivor premiered with a 3.1 and the Big Brother Final averaged a 2.5. On NBC, a repeat of The Voice in the 8pm hour averaged a 1.7 which is probably higher than what their comedy hour will end up averaging. A Revolution repeat at 10pm averaged either a 1.2 so that seems quite good.

I still enjoy the show - albeit enjoyed it better in previous years. But I am already groaning with dread at the thought of a 2 hour programme - IMO Strictly wins hands down now in terms of sheer pace and length of the show.

Doubt it'll get too close between them, X Factor is up because of no The Voice - its not 'growth' as such.
But a good rating all things considered; can't help but feel some people at Fox eyeing Britney and the likely big contract shes on though.

I don't think there's much good news that Fox can take from these numbers. Its currently up a tenth week-on-week despite the reduction in like-for-like competition and in the 8PM hour it was in a dead heat with Survivor, a show that's now in something like its 25th season and has considerably less hype and money spent on it. The 9PM hour is slightly more encouraging but not much more encouraging given that next week it'll have the return of Modern Family denting it not to mention a new Criminal Minds to deal with across the hour. It just seems to me that Fox have every reason to be very concerned about what's coming over the next few weeks. It could be a very long season for them.

It was a good night for Survivor though on CBS. And The Voice repeats surprisingly well.


There's potential for it to get close although we'll have to wait and see how both shows hold up next week before really judging that. Equally we'll have to see how both hold up over their runs. Both The Voice and The X Factor saw noticeable drops for their live shows compared to their audition shows last season. If neither one manages to reverse that trend (and as far as I can tell The Voice is the only one actively trying) then a gulf will remain between the two but they'll both be at lower numbers.

I agree with you on TXF not making "growth". If it did, it should have done around 3.8 mark. While 3.5 is good, I constantly wonder whether the ratings will stay consistent or fall down. Britney and Demi may be important now, but is that all we are going to see this season? Surely there must have been some notable contestants to spotlight. Interesting to note that Survivor has more total viewers than TXF (11.22 vs 9.38). Even though total viewers has very little importance now, CBS will spin that around to diminish TXF.

I am worried about Up All Night's season premiere. SNL's Weekend Thursday Update will get close to nothing and they have Wipeout and TXF to compete against. I suppose there are tougher competitions next week with CBS returning. I am predicting a 2.2 for Up All Night. The Office/Parks vs Glee battle should be interesting. As for The CW, they must be desperately hoping for mid-October to come. The Next is receiving worse than flopping numbers. Last week's episode had a 0.2 and 660k! That is pitiful, even for a summer show.

Hey I don't really understand US ratings. What is a 3.5?

I only understand in millions. I keep seeing these kind of figures on different articles but don't understand them. Could anybody explain it? Thanks.

To be fair The Voice needs to do more with the live shows than XF as it dropped far more for the live shows than XF did. Last season the pre-recorded episodes of The Voice averaged a 5.58 (excluding the post-Superbowl episode) and the live shows averaged a 3.65, so a -34.6% drop. Meanwhile The X Factor pre-recorded shows last year averaged a 3.98 and the live shows averaged a 3.44, so a drop of -13.6%. So there went from being a gap of 1.6 for the auditions to just 0.21 for the live shows. Bearing in mind the pre-recorded ratings are closer this time it could get rather close, although I'll be very surprised if The Voice drops quite the same amount again. Things could get very tight though.

Bear in mind those averages include result shows for both shows which drag them down too, and in The Voice's case could suffer more this time as it's moved from 9pm to 8pm.

Its a demographic rating.

A 3.5 means that 3.5% of a specific demographic (in this case 18-49 year olds) with access to television were watching a show. Off the top of my head I think its about 1.2 million people for every ratings point in the 18-49 demo (although that could be wrong I'll look it up later if I remember) which would translate to about 4.2 million 18-49 year old viewers or about 45% of The X Factor's total audience. For those that might be interested The X Factor had a 10 share which means that 10% of 18-49 year olds actually watching television on Wednesday night were watching The X Factor. And in the 8PM hour broadcast television claimed about 30% of the 18-49 year olds watching television which gives you can indication as to how big the impact of cable has been in the US.


The Voice started from a much higher and over inflated base though base though so the drop was always going to be much more significant.

Further to AlexiR's answer, I found this page on TV By the Numbers which gives Nielsen's estimate of the number of 18-49-year-olds Americans with access to TV in the current season as 126.54 million, which makes each 1.0 rating point worth 1.2654 million people. So TXF's 3.5 equals about 4.43 million viewers in the demo, which is 47% of the show's total audience of 9.38 million. The page also gives estimates of lots of other demos.