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Old 07-09-2012, 19:22
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With the 40th celebrations kicking off on the Dales next month, will the live episode be as good as the epic one that Corrie produced back in 2010? Emmerdale has been stuck in rut for quite a while now under Stuart Blackburn, with nonsensical plot-driven storylines, endless and repetitive affairs (take a bow Chas/ Cameron, Moira/ Alex, Rachel/ Jai:sleep personality transplants amongst characters and uninspired castings (Robbie:yawn:, Alex:yawn:, Megan:yawn: etc.). There was a significant and sustained build-up to Corrie's 50th with big storylines like John Stape, Steve and Becky, Carla's attraction to Peter, Peter and Leanne's engagement, Gary's PTSD, Kevin and Molly etc. The tram crash acted as a catalyst for these plots to be sent spinning in different directions. Unfortunately, I don't see any such development with Emmerdale. While there does appear to be a lot crammed into the live ep- two weddings, two births and a "shock" death, there is no sense of build-up or progression. Characters and plots are aimlessly going around in circles..What do others think?
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Old 07-09-2012, 19:31
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It's hard to say until we see how September pans out. Things do seem to be getting slowly better. I disagree with your point about the lack of plot build up compared with Corrie - if anything having a tram crash into the street was totally plot driven whereas ED's stories should climax fairly naturally without the need for a big 'disaster' which could make it more exciting.
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Old 07-09-2012, 19:32
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Live episodes are usually popular. If you hate the show, you can tune in and see all the mistakes made (like Bradley's suicide/death in Eastenders and Corrie's tram crash, both containing little and large human errors) if you love the show, it's really exciting for obvious reasons. Either reason can also attract the occasional viewer or the viewer who has fallen out with the show.

I reckon it will be exciting, amusing, cringeworthy and unbelievable in equal measure, which is all you should expect from a soap!
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Old 07-09-2012, 19:36
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The problem being is Emmerdale actors really are not very good at all. I think the live show will prove how bad they really are.
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Old 07-09-2012, 19:56
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It's hard to say until we see how September pans out. Things do seem to be getting slowly better. I disagree with your point about the lack of plot build up compared with Corrie - if anything having a tram crash into the street was totally plot driven whereas ED's stories should climax fairly naturally without the need for a big 'disaster' which could make it more exciting.
What I meant was the stunt wasn't simply a stunt for the sake of it. It was the trigger point for Becky committing theft in order to keep Max- which further put the nail in the coffin as far as her marriage was concerned. John saw the disaster as being the perfect cover-up for his crime when he bludgeoned Charlotte to death- very much in keeping with the character's desperation to safeguard the future that he wanted for his family. The tram was also instrumental in Gary's PTSD manifesting itself.

I also fear that logistically Emmerdale's live ep will prove very challenging potentially leading to more blunders by the cast and crew.
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Old 07-09-2012, 20:11
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I like Emmerdale but I agree it hasn't been the best year for them but then again Corrie hasn't been sensational either.

The only thing that is really p*ssing me off about Emmerdale is all these affairs and pregnancies!

I am however really excited about it's anniversary week!
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Old 07-09-2012, 20:48
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The problem being is Emmerdale actors really are not very good at all. I think the live show will prove how bad they really are.
Pfffft, nonsense. ED has much stronger actors than Corrie.
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Old 08-09-2012, 18:07
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I like Emmerdale but I agree it hasn't been the best year for them but then again Corrie hasn't been sensational either.

The only thing that is really p*ssing me off about Emmerdale is all these affairs and pregnancies!

I am however really excited about it's anniversary week!

That's what has made Emmerdale so unwatchable this year- affair after affair in plot driven twaddle...
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Old 08-09-2012, 18:14
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The problem being is Emmerdale actors really are not very good at all. I think the live show will prove how bad they really are.
I disagree with this. I have watched some actors on ED become alchemists making dire scripts sound really good!


IMO the problem isn't with the acting - well, not the majority of the actors.



But I have to say, that when I found out they were doing on the ED outside set with no contingency plans for bad weather a little bad imp sitting on my shoulder had me chuckling a bit hoping that something would go wrong, perhaps blowing gales and lashing rain! But I don't feel like that anymore, I want it to go really well for the actors as they deserve it with some of the twaddle they've had to work with so I hope they have mild weather and they all put in excellent performances
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Old 08-09-2012, 18:45
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The problem being is Emmerdale actors really are not very good at all. I think the live show will prove how bad they really are.
I dont agree with that if anything the past year has shown how strong the cast are having to peform with the most dire of scripts by the writers who are the shows weak link!
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Old 08-09-2012, 19:15
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The problem being is Emmerdale actors really are not very good at all. I think the live show will prove how bad they really are.
Emmerdale's cast is possibly the strongest and tightest out there at the moment. If Coronation Street can pull it off, then Emmerdale will have no problems.
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Old 08-09-2012, 19:21
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There was a significant and sustained build-up to Corrie's 50th with big storylines like John Stape, Steve and Becky, Carla's attraction to Peter, Peter and Leanne's engagement, Gary's PTSD, Kevin and Molly etc. The tram crash acted as a catalyst for these plots to be sent spinning in different directions. Unfortunately, I don't see any such development with Emmerdale. While there does appear to be a lot crammed into the live ep- two weddings, two births and a "shock" death, there is no sense of build-up or progression. Characters and plots are aimlessly going around in circles..What do others think?
The tram crash was an abomination of a storyline. The stunt was good, but the buildup and aftermath were beyond terrible.

None of the storylines you mentioned were any good in my opinion and the Tram Crash did more damage than was worth while.

I disagree with you about buildup to Emmerdale's 40th. A lot of storylines have been slow-burners and been playing out slowly over the last few months, only just starting to accelerate. There's so much going on in Emmerdale at the moment and it's not reliant on shot gun storylines like Coronation Street is.
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Old 08-09-2012, 19:27
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The bad acting in Emmerdale always comes when we have the police on the show. Whether the actors have been told to act in an unrealistic naff way, or it is a bad Producer I know not.
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Old 09-09-2012, 12:41
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The bad acting in Emmerdale always comes when we have the police on the show. Whether the actors have been told to act in an unrealistic naff way, or it is a bad Producer I know not.
Police officers are always played by atrocious actors in soap, it's like an unwritten rule. The only exception is that detective played by the lovely Sophie Stanton on EE.
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Old 09-09-2012, 14:49
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I dont agree with that if anything the past year has shown how strong the cast are having to peform with the most dire of scripts by the writers who are the shows weak link!
I will admit they do have some good actors, the problem being is the live show will be mainly about Chas,Cameron and Debbie as far as I'm concerned these 3 are not the best. Where people like Cain,Charity and Amy will only have bit parts.
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Old 09-09-2012, 15:43
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The problem being is Emmerdale actors really are not very good at all. I think the live show will prove how bad they really are.
I disagree completely - ED is under-rated ALL the time.. Since time began I've always been a MASSIVE EE fan but over the years ED has slowly taken over as my favourite soap.

I can't wait for the live ep I think it's going to be the making of ED
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Old 09-09-2012, 15:49
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Agree with OP.
corrie - the tram crash kicked all it off....
will a disaster at the festival kick it off??
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Old 09-09-2012, 15:49
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Well - the crew and 'backstage' team work their arses off and they will compare favourably with the other soaps because of their professionalism and hard work and dedication.
The challenge for the crew and 'backstage' team is probably much harder than it was for the other soaps, and I don't think they get enough credit. They are under enormous pressure because they know their efforts will be compared to the other two shows.
But the Emmerdale team have two locations and having to adapt the village location specially for the Live is another pressure for them. The other soaps were filming live on familiar sets and location - the Emm team don't have that familiarity.
OK the Woolpack interior they are building for the Live Ep will look to us like the one n the studio, but it won't feel familiar to the cast and crew.

So, are we really comparing like with like because of such obstacles the Emm team face but the other soaps didn't?


The big problem with Emmerdale is the writing at the moment. So if anything lets them down it will probably be this. Its been tedious and repetitive for a long time now.
I'm hoping that will change.
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Old 09-09-2012, 15:50
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The problem being is Emmerdale actors really are not very good at all. I think the live show will prove how bad they really are.

Having been a longtime fan of both Corrie and Emmerdale, I can honestly say that Emmerdale genuinely has better acting. Although comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges I feel like the fact of what the two live eps are based around speaks for itself. Corrie's was the big extravagant tram crash in which a lot of BIG drama took place, whereas EDs is going to be based around everyday occurrences (obviously with the drama) where it's more realistic. I feel like that's what makes Emmerdale so popular, at least to me, when the storylines are super far fetched I feel like the acting suffers (which it did in Corrie and Eastenders) but because Emmerdale sticks to what they know so well I feel the actors are consistently flawless and I do not for a second doubt that they will deliver on the live week/ep.

P.S. as someone mentioned above, are the 2 weddings/births + death/murder to take place during the one live ep or during the anniversary week? I have a feeling SB clarified this at some point and wouldn't place Katie and Chas's wedding on the same day as they are best friends.

P.p.s. we also know Debbie is DEFINITLEY gonna give birth but do we know if the other birth is Gennie? Because I read some DS article in which SB stated it was Rachel being pregnant as well as Debbie...the girls not even 4-5 months gone at that point :s
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Old 09-09-2012, 16:28
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i cant see any live episodes from any soap could beat corries tram crash live episode, that week was seriously amazing. Eastenders was good but no where near as good as Corrie, I think Emmerdale will do a great job but it will have to be incredible for it to beat Corrie.
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Old 09-09-2012, 16:32
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Well - the crew and 'backstage' team work their arses off and they will compare favourably with the other soaps because of their professionalism and hard work and dedication.
The challenge for the crew and 'backstage' team is probably much harder than it was for the other soaps, and I don't think they get enough credit. They are under enormous pressure because they know their efforts will be compared to the other two shows.
But the Emmerdale team have two locations and having to adapt the village location specially for the Live is another pressure for them. The other soaps were filming live on familiar sets and location - the Emm team don't have that familiarity.
OK the Woolpack interior they are building for the Live Ep will look to us like the one n the studio, but it won't feel familiar to the cast and crew.

So, are we really comparing like with like because of such obstacles the Emm team face but the other soaps didn't?


The big problem with Emmerdale is the writing at the moment. So if anything lets them down it will probably be this. Its been tedious and repetitive for a long time now.
I'm hoping that will change.
Great post Chita, I totally agree.
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Old 09-09-2012, 16:35
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Great post Chita, I totally agree.
Good.

Let's all give three huge cheers to the Emmerdale crew and backstage team!


[The cast get plenty of praise as it is.]
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Old 09-09-2012, 16:42
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Good.

Let's all give three huge cheers to the Emmerdale crew and backstage team!


[The cast get plenty of praise as it is.]
Hip Hip - Hooray!!!! x 3


I'm a vocal criticiser of ED but I still like it enough to stick up for it's actors and crew - the currents problems aren't with them.
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Old 10-09-2012, 18:32
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The tram crash was an abomination of a storyline. The stunt was good, but the buildup and aftermath were beyond terrible.

None of the storylines you mentioned were any good in my opinion and the Tram Crash did more damage than was worth while.

I disagree with you about buildup to Emmerdale's 40th. A lot of storylines have been slow-burners and been playing out slowly over the last few months, only just starting to accelerate. There's so much going on in Emmerdale at the moment and it's not reliant on shot gun storylines like Coronation Street is.
Sorry, don't agree. The live episode alone was critically acclaimed and that week brought Corrie its best figures in years.
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