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Old 03-08-2015, 12:12
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See that toilet door opener thingy surely the germs would be transferred onto that from the door and then when you folded it up to put in your wallet the germs would go on your hands kind of defeating the purpose of the thing. I was surprised none of the dragons mentioned this. Also wouldn't it have been a better idea to make it out of plastic anti bacterial microban for added germ protection?
I wasn't paying close attention. So it wasn't a special UV light or whatever that showed up the germs, but just a bit of plastic to open the door with?!

In other words, a device for collecting as many germs as possible and taking them home with you!

That's £25,000 well spent.
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Old 03-08-2015, 12:37
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Can't see that toy woman staying with Touker. Their manufacturing ideas were totally different and I could see a clash of personalities already.
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Old 03-08-2015, 12:47
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to be fair to the dragons, ANYONE going in there should have a grasp of the basics, turnover, gross/net profit etc and the figures for their business in relation to. the dragon's will forgive (to varying degrees) people freezing and so on but to simply not know ...

also remember, they need to make a show of it i.e. it has to be entertaining. so if the dragons weren't ... emmm dragons ... then it would make for pretty boring telly.

for me they don't show enough of the so-called stupid ideas any more, i say so-called cause some of the 'stupid' things they've turned down have gone on to have at least some success. getting a bit bored of food/drink ideas and the like ...
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Old 03-08-2015, 13:16
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So, hold on, What's gross profit again?

The seaweed lady didn't do very well, but I'm not sure what the bloke was there for. It sounded like his roll was to pick up the seaweed, and I couldn't get over the massive hair growing out of the tip of his nose

The poo thing, it seemed more complicated than it actually needed to be. I thought it was just a piece of plastic at first. But there were shots of Touka with his hand in some sort of springy thing. Also, do people really carry disposable gloves for opening toilet doors?
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Old 03-08-2015, 13:28
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to be fair to the dragons, ANYONE going in there should have a grasp of the basics, turnover, gross/net profit etc and the figures for their business in relation to. the dragon's will forgive (to varying degrees) people freezing and so on but to simply not know ...
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I don't exactly know what gross profit is either. But when turnover for the past six and twelve months has been £200,000, while £350,000 has been spent on seaweed, even I can tell something is not right.

Why is there a £150,000 discrepancy? Is it due to not selling all the seaweed (so there will be lots of stock), or to selling it below the cost price? That could be a vital point!

(And if the seaweed is merely picked up off a beach, how can it cost that much? I would take closer look at the seaweed guy's expenses...)
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Old 03-08-2015, 16:10
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The bloke sitting between Deborah and Peter - has he actually invested anything yet? Missed a bit of this series but he looks like he keeps his hand on his wallet?
Nick invested in the first episode in a joint deal with Deborah, however Sarah is yet to invest in any businesses thus far.

Going back to the seaweed lady last night, it would have been great to have seen Duncan back to see what he would have said to her!

As far as the new dragons go, i think that they are all very good, Touker has been very different from all other Dragons and Nick seems to talk sense a lot of the time and actually help the entrepreneurs even when he isnt investing. Sarah has been another good addition but it will be interesting to see what she will make her first den investment.
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Old 03-08-2015, 16:14
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Nick invested in the first episode in a joint deal with Deborah, however Sarah is yet to invest in any businesses thus far.

Going back to the seaweed lady last night, it would have been great to have seen Duncan back to see what he would have said to her!

As far as the new dragons go, i think that they are all very good, Touker has been very different from all other Dragons and Nick seems to talk sense a lot of the time and actually help the entrepreneurs even when he isnt investing. Sarah has been another good addition but it will be interesting to see what she will make her first den investment.
The look of disgust on her face last night when crisp man went with Peter and Deborah and not her was priceless.
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Old 03-08-2015, 18:08
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As if Evan Davies wasn't annoying enough they now seem to have lots of very distracting background music going on during the pitches!!!
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Old 04-08-2015, 08:45
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Couldn't grasp the toilet door opening thing, so I transfer all the germs to my card thing, then place it in my wallet, which sometimes being a bloke ends up grasped between teeth when holding to many things, then gets transfered to all my credit and debit cards, or worse to my Tesco club card, that I just used to buy a sandwich and am now proceeding to eat.
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Old 04-08-2015, 09:43
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Seaweed woman was very irritating and I thought Peter Jones was going to lose it for a minute there. How she'd got that far without understanding about gross profits etc.

I thought I was the only person to notice the big old hairy nose of Seaweed Man.
I kept thinking of the Father Ted sketch with the hairy babies.
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Old 04-08-2015, 09:48
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Seaweed woman was very irritating and I thought Peter Jones was going to lose it for a minute there. How she'd got that far without understanding about gross profits etc.

I thought I was the only person to notice the big old hairy nose of Seaweed Man.
I kept thinking of the Father Ted sketch with the hairy babies.
I didn't notice and I was watching on hd for once. Odd man though, I'm glad he thought he had the best job in the world, wonder if he still does?
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Old 04-08-2015, 13:55
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Couldn't grasp the toilet door opening thing, so I transfer all the germs to my card thing, then place it in my wallet, which sometimes being a bloke ends up grasped between teeth when holding to many things, then gets transfered to all my credit and debit cards, or worse to my Tesco club card, that I just used to buy a sandwich and am now proceeding to eat.
Some one suggested using loo paper but apparently doing this would "make you look strange"? What about carrying a couple of tissues, Jeez. What a pointless product.
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Old 04-08-2015, 20:51
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A few weeks in and I quite like the new dragons.

Deborah though appears to have lowered her low tolerance threshold even lower & Peter seems to be heading that way too. I think Peter probably misses the comic relief provided by Duncan.

Can Sarah 'open doors' to anything other than restaurants ? Not sure I see her getting involved in a retail or manufacturing investment.
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Old 04-08-2015, 20:54
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The seaweed lady was so smug and arrogant sounding.
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Old 04-08-2015, 20:57
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I wasn't paying close attention. So it wasn't a special UV light or whatever that showed up the germs, but just a bit of plastic to open the door with?!

In other words, a device for collecting as many germs as possible and taking them home with you!

That's £25,000 well spent.
Yep just a bit of plastic to open toilet cubicle and toilet doors with instead of using your hands. But obviously as other posters have mentioned all the germs get transfered on to that which end up on your hands and even more worrying potentially your mouth. It is a ludicrous invention and badly thought out. What a waste of £25,000 to invent. You are far better using anti-bacterial wipes or alcohol on your hands when you come out of the toilet in a restaurant like I do.
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Old 04-08-2015, 21:00
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The seaweed lady was so smug and arrogant sounding.
Totally agree she could definitely be difficult to work with she certainly didn't have the manner of a people person. How she got anyone to invest so much in that business (out with Dragons den) is a mystery. Selling your goods in Harrods means nothing if your company is making a loss.
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Old 05-08-2015, 09:24
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^^Hearing how the product actually cost more to make than she sold it for, makes you wonder how much she "gave away" as "sweetners" just to get a foot in the door?
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Old 05-08-2015, 20:51
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Totally agree she could definitely be difficult to work with she certainly didn't have the manner of a people person. How she got anyone to invest so much in that business (out with Dragons den) is a mystery. Selling your goods in Harrods means nothing if your company is making a loss.
Yeah, also I didnt know what was meant by gross profit But would expect someone who worked in business to know
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Old 09-08-2015, 20:04
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Right, let's get this started!
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Old 09-08-2015, 20:06
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Gluten-free foods. Very crowded market these days.
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Old 09-08-2015, 20:06
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Right, let's get this started!
Titles first!
Then some waffle
Then some more waffle
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Old 09-08-2015, 20:06
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"Coming up"

Oh well thats it then, ive seen the best bits, no point in watching, i thought i would start watching it a bit later so i miss that bit, and the program starts late
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Old 09-08-2015, 20:08
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"Two leading supermarkets are looking at the range". Meaning absolutely nothing.
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Old 09-08-2015, 20:11
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Its rank, not a good start.
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Old 09-08-2015, 20:11
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Oh well thats it then, ive seen the best bits, no point in watching, i thought i would start watching it a bit later so i miss that bit, and the program starts late
For a while during the first episode I thought they'd axed him but no.. still there ready to spoil it all.
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