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Old 03-10-2012, 09:32
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It is heavily edited. How do you know they didn't ask all those questions?
Because, with a lack of anything meaninful to say - apart from the usual 'let us rip you and your ideas off' - the Dragons would be expected to ask these simple questions.
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Old 03-10-2012, 13:06
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Because, with a lack of anything meaninful to say - apart from the usual 'let us rip you and your ideas off' - the Dragons would be expected to ask these simple questions.
And I'll ask again. How do you know they didn't?
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Old 07-10-2012, 21:19
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nobody here this week? All watching Fix Factor?

don't see what stops someone else doing this bike wheel thing.
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Old 07-10-2012, 21:26
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I dont get this bike thing either!
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Old 07-10-2012, 21:28
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what's with the silly bike advertising? money down the drain!
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Old 07-10-2012, 21:28
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Depends if there is a patent on it I suppose and if they really do have exclusive usage in the UK as they suggested.

Not too sure why they got so much interest. Their track record of advertising wasn't probed at all, at least not shown in the edit. Degrees don't = successful businesses. And as Peter said.. what is the advertising worth? Yes a bike going around with a video on it's wheel will at first attract attention but once you've seen one.. you've seen them all surely.
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Old 07-10-2012, 21:46
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That brush thing is also ridiculous as it might reach up to your picture rail or coving but unless they are the same colour you are never going to cut in a steady line with a brush on a stick!

So you will have to get up there on a ladder!
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Old 07-10-2012, 21:51
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That's not on! Isn't Peter trading industrial secrets there by telling her inside info on another company?
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Old 07-10-2012, 21:55
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Not sure why students would want to sign up to a site which is effectively a football league and scores based on some secret formula behind the scenes. Whatever happened to discovering hidden talent or taking a chance on someone based on what happened in an interview? Surely unless you're a 110% top student with sky high perfect grades and ticking all the 'right boxes', you're going to be disadvantaged because you won't even get a look in.

Ok I can understand why that benefits some employers who want only the best of the best to work for them but for the 99% other people on the website they're just going to be making up the numbers.
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Old 07-10-2012, 21:58
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That's not on! Isn't Peter trading industrial secrets there by telling her inside info on another company?
Yeah I thought the same thing. Very odd that he would choose to tip her off like that. What if she walked out without agreeing to his offer. He has just told her what her main rival is about to do.
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Old 07-10-2012, 21:59
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Wheeling out the dead father to seal the deal.
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Old 07-10-2012, 22:02
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Not sure why students would want to sign up to a site which is effectively a football league and scores based on some secret formula behind the scenes. Whatever happened to discovering hidden talent or taking a chance on someone based on what happened in an interview? Surely unless you're a 110% top student with sky high perfect grades and ticking all the 'right boxes', you're going to be disadvantaged because you won't even get a look in.

Ok I can understand why that benefits some employers who want only the best of the best to work for them but for the 99% other people on the website they're just going to be making up the numbers.
You could make the point about the traditional job search process. Pretty obviously it's to replace the application stage and not the interviews. I'm an underemployed graduate and I know that employers are flooded with applications - anything that makes the process easier for employers will benefit graduates going for jobs they are suited to.
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Old 07-10-2012, 22:08
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You could make the point about the traditional job search process. Pretty obviously it's to replace the application stage and not the interviews. I'm an underemployed graduate and I know that employers are flooded with applications - anything that makes the process easier for employers will benefit graduates going for jobs they are suited to.
Yeah I suppose but if it's a system that ranks you against everyone else who applied, unless you're sure you're in the top 1% of all applicants, you won't even get a look in. That's what I mean. They won't even read your application, because the system will have already filtered you out.. assuming of course you're in the other 99%. Not saying YOU are. But i'm sure you get my point. There is no way that someone may stumble upon something in your CV that makes them see potential. A computer based scoring system will never do that. It's too clinical.

I can see the point of the idea and perhaps it will make life easier for everyone. But to me it just seems like a system to make sure the top 1% get the best jobs and make sure the best companies don't have to spend any time looking for the top 1%. Maybe i'm being far too harsh. It's been a long time since i've applied for a job and i'm not a graduate.
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Old 07-10-2012, 22:51
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That's not on! Isn't Peter trading industrial secrets there by telling her inside info on another company?
As he isn't associated with that other business yet already knew of it's plans, it obviously isn't much of a "secret" is it?

My guess is that's part the reason he bought into her idea. He's a canny businessman and she presented her idea excellently.
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Old 07-10-2012, 23:33
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He's also old and wise enough to know about NDAs and not to break them, obviously what he shared wasn't under one, think he was slyly saying that this info was out there and really she should have already picked up on it herself.
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:36
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I thought it was a good ep tonight.

I really didn't understand the bike advertising. Peter Jones was talking sense.
The guy with the sheds was a sly dog! Glad they caught him out.
The barrister with the website was clearly intelligent but i'm really not sure a website like hers would work. I wouldn't use it.
The make-up lady seemed pretty nice but i couldn't see it making a lot of money.

Once again Duncan made no offers and invested in nothing. I really think it's time he left for pastures new and gets replaced for the next series. We already know Hilary is leaving after this series, time he left as well.
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Old 08-10-2012, 02:31
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Wheeling out the dead father to seal the deal.
Peter made the offer before she told the story.

I thought Dupsy's surname was familiar when she introduced herself and the moment she mentioned her father had a score of businesses and that he died just before he was due to be released, I realised she's a daughter of M.K.O. Abiola, who's still regarded as a national hero across Nigeria and neighbouring countries. A well deserved label, most would say. Do look him up.
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Old 08-10-2012, 10:47
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Didn't know that Hilary is leaving so soon. I much prefer James Caan anyway, but do feel a little sorry for her that she seems to be making offers and not many (if any?) people are taken them up.
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Old 08-10-2012, 11:21
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Didn't know that Hilary is leaving so soon. I much prefer James Caan anyway, but do feel a little sorry for her that she seems to be making offers and not many (if any?) people are taken them up.
Partly the applicants won't know who she is whilst the long serving Dragons have well known areas of expertise. Also even if the applicant does know who Hilary is, her area of expertise (logistics) is rarely relavent to the business.
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Old 08-10-2012, 12:01
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Well, after a restless night's sleep (or lack of it) due to excessive pillow-slippage (why can't someone solve that probl...oh hang on!) ...
Quick question - When the flicks eyeliner lady was on, Deborah said she didnt believe in that product alone, and implied she would be interested in further ideas, but couldnt invest for that reason (i.e. the flicks being the idea pitced) yet when the bike boys came along they pretty much got the investment based on their potential, the bike idea itself being pretty much rubbished So what's the craic? Are the dragons supposed to only invest in the idea being pitched or was that just Deborah getting out of it?
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Old 08-10-2012, 14:48
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Wheeling out the dead father to seal the deal.
She could have won XFactor with that sob story
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Old 08-10-2012, 14:51
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I thought it was a good ep tonight.

I really didn't understand the bike advertising. Peter Jones was talking sense.
The guy with the sheds was a sly dog! Glad they caught him out.
The barrister with the website was clearly intelligent but i'm really not sure a website like hers would work. I wouldn't use it.
The make-up lady seemed pretty nice but i couldn't see it making a lot of money.

Once again Duncan made no offers and invested in nothing. I really think it's time he left for pastures new and gets replaced for the next series. We already know Hilary is leaving after this series, time he left as well.
Surely if the business is a real success he wouldn't have enough off-cuts from his timber business to satisfy demand for the cabins.
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Old 08-10-2012, 16:47
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I've never had Pillow 'Slipage'...

I'm sure the Flick Tips woman talked more then Dupsy, but she got told to stop talking...Dupsy's story, for me, was a bit much....but she got the deal.

I got the Ads on Bike wheels thing, I think....but Peter dismissing it because it would be hard to see, because the bike goes by fast, has never seen Billboards on the side of the road....were cars drive by.

And Lens Huts, was a joke, didn't deserve the 10 minutes airtime.
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Old 08-10-2012, 18:08
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Once again Duncan made no offers and invested in nothing. I really think it's time he left for pastures new and gets replaced for the next series.
Don't be ridicculuss.

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Old 09-10-2012, 00:27
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I got the Ads on Bike wheels thing, I think....but Peter dismissing it because it would be hard to see, because the bike goes by fast, has never seen Billboards on the side of the road....were cars drive by.
Cars also slow down or wait in traffic. While some billboards face approaching traffic and are visible as you drive towards them.

But when that bike stops or slows down, I think the picture disappears. (And I didn't quite understand who would be riding the bike. For £700 (?), you could tow a trailer behind a bike with a proper advertising poster. You could see it when it was stopped or parked too!)
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