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Originally Posted by Inspiration:
“True but if the person had collapsed and was still alive but slowly deteriorating.. then it would help them. No system can ever catch all scenarios 100% of the time. A button on a phone is pointless if the OAP is laying at the bottom of a stair case with broken bones and can't move.
I get what Peter was saying.. it's not a 100% guarantee and perhaps he was nervous people would consider it one and get angry when it "failed" them. But I still think it's better than nothing and looked so simple.”
“True but if the person had collapsed and was still alive but slowly deteriorating.. then it would help them. No system can ever catch all scenarios 100% of the time. A button on a phone is pointless if the OAP is laying at the bottom of a stair case with broken bones and can't move.
I get what Peter was saying.. it's not a 100% guarantee and perhaps he was nervous people would consider it one and get angry when it "failed" them. But I still think it's better than nothing and looked so simple.”
If there was an App they could press on the phone to alert someone during the night that would be better.
The Tuk Tuks are operational in Liverpool, I know the directors myself.. In fact I used to work with Tony, I first met him back in 2008
Originally Posted by gdjman68wasdigi:
“The Tuk Tuks are operational in Liverpool, I know the directors myself.. In fact I used to work with Tony, I first met him back in 2008”
“The Tuk Tuks are operational in Liverpool, I know the directors myself.. In fact I used to work with Tony, I first met him back in 2008”
Was he as clueless back then as he is now?
So if it wasn't available that means someone else has got it and could quite legally trade on it.
Find a name that hasn't been used or buy-out an existing one. BEFORE you even start.
Find a name that hasn't been used or buy-out an existing one. BEFORE you even start.
Originally Posted by IJoinedInMay:
“In other words, Koreans are rude and impatient.
”
“In other words, Koreans are rude and impatient.
”
And the Northern ones have nuclear bombs and are totally insane!
Originally Posted by anyonefortennis:
“Was he as clueless back then as he is now?”
“Was he as clueless back then as he is now?”
Well... I worked with him and we were friends but lost touch... He has another business and about 6 months ago offered me a job driving a Tuk...
I declined and haven't spoken to him since really
Originally Posted by gdjman68wasdigi:
“Well... I worked with him and we were friends but lost touch... He has another business and about 6 months ago offered me a job driving a Tuk...
I declined and haven't spoken to him since really”
“Well... I worked with him and we were friends but lost touch... He has another business and about 6 months ago offered me a job driving a Tuk...
I declined and haven't spoken to him since really”
I hope you told him to tuk off.
Originally Posted by anyonefortennis:
“I hope you told him to tuk off.”
“I hope you told him to tuk off.
”
As long as he wasn't tuk for a ride!
Originally Posted by anyonefortennis:
“I hope you told him to tuk off.”
“I hope you told him to tuk off.
”
He seems to have done quite well to be honest, driving the Tuk was not for me though..
I don't know the Linda person
Originally Posted by anyonefortennis:
“If there was an App they could press on the phone to alert someone during the night that would be better.”
“If there was an App they could press on the phone to alert someone during the night that would be better.”
It's no better or worse IMHO. Every system would have failings. If someone suffers ill health during the night there is no guarantee they'd be awake let alone able to move and press a button on a phone.
Peter's point was "What if the person suffers an issue at 3am and has died by 5am" .. the system wouldn't help that person.. fair enough. But if the person has an accident for example and is laying on the floor unable to move but still alive.. then the system would give them a chance when the following morning arrived and their family didn't get the signal. I think that's better than nothing personally.
Originally Posted by Mass Corona:
“As long as he wasn't tuk for a ride!”
“As long as he wasn't tuk for a ride!
”
Google Little Helpers Liverpool and click on about us
If anybody is interested
Originally Posted by Inspiration:
“It's no better or worse IMHO. Every system would have failings. If someone suffers ill health during the night there is no guarantee they'd be awake let alone able to move and press a button on a phone.
Peter's point was "What if the person suffers an issue at 3am and has died by 5am" .. the system wouldn't help that person.. fair enough. But if the person has an accident for example and is laying on the floor unable to move but still alive.. then the system would give them a chance when the following morning arrived and their family didn't get the signal. I think that's better than nothing personally.”
“It's no better or worse IMHO. Every system would have failings. If someone suffers ill health during the night there is no guarantee they'd be awake let alone able to move and press a button on a phone.
Peter's point was "What if the person suffers an issue at 3am and has died by 5am" .. the system wouldn't help that person.. fair enough. But if the person has an accident for example and is laying on the floor unable to move but still alive.. then the system would give them a chance when the following morning arrived and their family didn't get the signal. I think that's better than nothing personally.”
I think the only way it would work if the person could contact someone for help themselves. But I think there are already panic buttons you can wear round your neck that do this already.
Why do all these people that have food and sauces always try and get in to the supermarket?
They must know they will be squeezed so hard they will end up making pittance profit!
They must know they will be squeezed so hard they will end up making pittance profit!
Originally Posted by Grouty:
“Sarah didn't look happy there, when they went with Peter”
“Sarah didn't look happy there, when they went with Peter
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Thought they would have gone with 2 dragons. Sarah has lot's of contacts in the foodie world.
Originally Posted by anyonefortennis:
“I think the only way it would work if the person could contact someone for help themselves. But I think there are already panic buttons you can wear round your neck that do this already.”
“I think the only way it would work if the person could contact someone for help themselves. But I think there are already panic buttons you can wear round your neck that do this already.”
But again sorry to bang on but what if the person can't operate a button? What if they don't even wake up? No system is going to be 100% effective. That doesn't exist.
I get what Peter meant.. but I still think the kettle solution is better than nothing.
If a frail person falls down the stairs in the morning and has a broken pelvis.. a system connected to the kettle gives them a chance. No system? They could be laying there for 24 hours.. even longer depending on how often someone calls in on them. That's the point of the system. It's a once a day green light. Not a guarantee their loved one isn't going to die.. but better than nothing if there is a risk of collapse/falling/accidents.
Originally Posted by Inspiration:
“I think it's great. You get a text each morning to say your elderly relative is OK. No text.. you think "Hmm thats odd" and you give them a ring just to make sure they're ok and not collapsed on the floor. It's genius.”
“I think it's great. You get a text each morning to say your elderly relative is OK. No text.. you think "Hmm thats odd" and you give them a ring just to make sure they're ok and not collapsed on the floor. It's genius.”
Yes, I think it's a great idea too. I have an 80 year old mum who lives alone since my dad died but she's 250 miles away. It would be nice to get a regular alert that she is OK and if not then I could call a neighbour to check on her.
Of course they could also use the technology so that parents know that their children, who never call home, are OK.
Originally Posted by anyonefortennis:
“If there was an App they could press on the phone to alert someone during the night that would be better.”
“If there was an App they could press on the phone to alert someone during the night that would be better.”
There are already pendant alarms that are worn round the neck or the wrist 24/7. My mother is 95 and lives alone and has had one for years.
Originally Posted by Inspiration:
“But again sorry to bang on but what if the person can't operate a button? What if they don't even wake up? No system is going to be 100% effective. That doesn't exist.
I get what Peter meant.. but I still think the kettle solution is better than nothing.
If a frail person falls down the stairs in the morning and has a broken pelvis.. a system connected to the kettle gives them a chance. No system? They could be laying there for 24 hours.. even longer depending on how often someone calls in on them. That's the point of the system. It's a once a day green light. Not a guarantee their loved one isn't going to die.. but better than nothing if there is a risk of collapse/falling/accidents.”
“But again sorry to bang on but what if the person can't operate a button? What if they don't even wake up? No system is going to be 100% effective. That doesn't exist.
I get what Peter meant.. but I still think the kettle solution is better than nothing.
If a frail person falls down the stairs in the morning and has a broken pelvis.. a system connected to the kettle gives them a chance. No system? They could be laying there for 24 hours.. even longer depending on how often someone calls in on them. That's the point of the system. It's a once a day green light. Not a guarantee their loved one isn't going to die.. but better than nothing if there is a risk of collapse/falling/accidents.”
But if a frail person falls down the stairs and breaks their pelvis they could press a panic button they are wearing and the emergency services will be there in minutes.
Originally Posted by SueG:
“There are already pendant alarms that are worn round the neck or the wrist 24/7. My mother is 95 and lives alone and has had one for years.”
“There are already pendant alarms that are worn round the neck or the wrist 24/7. My mother is 95 and lives alone and has had one for years.”
Snap. I just said that.
Originally Posted by StarryNight1983:
“Why do all these people that have food and sauces always try and get in to the supermarket?
They must know they will be squeezed so hard they will end up making pittance profit!”
“Why do all these people that have food and sauces always try and get in to the supermarket?
They must know they will be squeezed so hard they will end up making pittance profit!”
Probably better off trying to build it as a restaurant chain. Just look how big Wagamama and Yo Sushi are now. There is certainly a demand for Asian cusine.
Originally Posted by SueG:
“There are already pendant alarms that are worn round the neck or the wrist 24/7. My mother is 95 and lives alone and has had one for years.”
“There are already pendant alarms that are worn round the neck or the wrist 24/7. My mother is 95 and lives alone and has had one for years.”
I wondered why this wasn't referred to but the kettle seems to be something different, a regular check in rather than an emergency call out? Also maybe the kettle thing is cheaper than the pendant; they aren't cheap. And finally, some people don't use the pendant, even when they really should (ie they don't press it when they need help). The kettle would go off without the person having to do anything extra - ie the silence would be an alert by default.
Originally Posted by LostFool:
“Yes, I think it's a great idea too. I have an 80 year old mum who lives alone since my dad died but she's 250 miles away. It would be nice to get a regular alert that she is OK and if not then I could call a neighbour to check on her.
Of course they could also use the technology so that parents know that their children, who never call home, are OK.”
“Yes, I think it's a great idea too. I have an 80 year old mum who lives alone since my dad died but she's 250 miles away. It would be nice to get a regular alert that she is OK and if not then I could call a neighbour to check on her.
Of course they could also use the technology so that parents know that their children, who never call home, are OK.”
It sounds a good idea, but if an old person lives alone how likely are they going to have WiFi and a router. Many people who are very old don't use computers and have no interest in Smart TV, etc...
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