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Inspiration
27-12-2015
Originally Posted by testcard:
“Nope. NFC is simply peer-to-peer radio communications, passing data from one device to another.”

This device needed to speak to a website to retrieve the information I believe.

I agree with Peter.. it's already "old" tech.
Agent Krycek
27-12-2015
Well that's a lively opening
Inspiration
27-12-2015
lol.

So he wants to start a brand new theme adventure.. wants the Dragons to promote it.. whilst he continues to happily run his existing business without them having a share. Lovely!
jenzie
27-12-2015
Originally Posted by testcard:
“Nope. NFC is simply peer-to-peer radio communications, passing data from one device to another.”

yes true, as the app would simply feed off the bracelet to get the info needed
the smartphone's general usage requires internet, but not for that particular

also ANOTHER CHANCER GET 'IM OUT
Inspiration
27-12-2015
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

He has to go home and run it past the wife!!!! LOL

If it's not unfair Peter why are you asking for the full business. That was what the others were complaining about!! Makes sense that Peter wants it.. he's possibly going to roll it into Red Letter Days.
Inspiration
27-12-2015
Wow. What on earth was that all about. How did he get this far in the process if he can't even make a decision at the end of the pitch?
nomad2king
27-12-2015
Originally Posted by Inspiration:
“Wow. What on earth was that all about. How did he get this far in the process if he can't even make a decision at the end of the pitch?”

Yet another that isn't actually interested in getting any offers, just in promoting the existing business on TV. A free TV advert.
linkinpark875
28-12-2015
Wow how did that last guy turn down the offer?
bel110
28-12-2015
Originally Posted by nomad2king:
“Yet another that isn't actually interested in getting any offers, just in promoting the existing business on TV. A free TV advert.”

Looks that way. It seemed a bit silly not to accept, he could always find a get out later if necessary. And if the wife were so crucial to the business and decision making why wasn't she there? He claimed she was at home not at work or looking after kids etc so seems strange she hadn't come with him, just for a day out if nothing else. Sounded like a lame excuse to turn down the offer ...
Toggler
28-12-2015
Originally Posted by bel110:
“Looks that way. It seemed a bit silly not to accept, he could always find a get out later if necessary. And if the wife were so crucial to the business and decision making why wasn't she there? He claimed she was at home not at work or looking after kids etc so seems strange she hadn't come with him, just for a day out if nothing else. Sounded like a lame excuse to turn down the offer ...”

We haven't laughed so much for years at this chap. In he came all bluster about being ex-forces and roughy toughy, then when it came to the crunch he had got to talk to the wife. A complete twerp who made himself and his business look utterly ridiculous. I said to Mr Toggler if he came home and said he couldn't make the decision without me and passed up the opportunity to work with the Red Letter Days founder like that I would have half killed him. Then left him.
Keefy-boy
28-12-2015
Originally Posted by Toggler:
“passed up the opportunity to work with the Red Letter Days founder”

Being pedantic, Peter Jones wasn't the founder of Red Letter Days, it was started by original Dragon Rachel Elnaugh, and was bought out of administration by Jones and Theo Paphitis when it collapsed.
Toggler
28-12-2015
Originally Posted by Keefy-boy:
“Being pedantic, Peter Jones wasn't the founder of Red Letter Days, it was started by original Dragon Rachel Elnaugh, and was bought out of administration by Jones and Theo Paphitis when it collapsed.”

Thank you Keefy-boy, I stand corrected!
bart4858
28-12-2015
Originally Posted by Toggler:
“We haven't laughed so much for years at this chap. In he came all bluster about being ex-forces and roughy toughy, then when it came to the crunch he had got to talk to the wife.”

He could have agreed to the deal then pulled out later if his wife objected. Apparently half the deals fall through afterwards anyway.

It did sound like he was mostly after publicity for his existing business. Having the new business given a higher profile through the efforts of a dragon wouldn't hurt the old one either!
Johnr
28-12-2015
I don't get it!

The Apprentice : Contestant develops an idea for a dating app and it is claimed £250,000 won't be enough to get it off the ground

Dragons Den : Contestant pitches a dating app idea and reckons they can do it for £75,000, the Dragons agree!

If the idea was such a good one, the big players such as Tinder and Match would have had it developed months ago!
Brian The Dog
28-12-2015
I didn't like the life-saving wristband for the simple fact that any t**ser could tap his phone against it and at least know your name and age. At least with a paper capsule version it is private.

I do sometimes think that this is just Dot Com farce. Back then many just set up websites for the sake of it and thought they were then worth millions, now it seems that smart phones are being used to do simple things that just don't need all that technology. But some whiz-kid is just looking for an easy "Everything is better doing it on a smartphone", to write a quick app and they think they will make millions from it. The trouble is that as they are mostly young they have no filter and no one to say "Look! It's doesn't need to be on a smartphone and it does not improve what is already out there already.".
bel110
28-12-2015
Originally Posted by Johnr:
“I don't get it

If the idea was such a good one, the big players such as Tinder and Match would have had it developed months ago!”

Another flaw was if the friend you were going on dates with hit it off with someone they would leave the double dates part and you would be left on your own unless you could drag someone else in which would presumably change your double date profile ... Seemed like their was a very short shelf life for the double date thing ....
danielleh
29-12-2015
Originally Posted by Johnr:
“I don't get it!

The Apprentice : Contestant develops an idea for a dating app and it is claimed £250,000 won't be enough to get it off the ground

Dragons Den : Contestant pitches a dating app idea and reckons they can do it for £75,000, the Dragons agree!

If the idea was such a good one, the big players such as Tinder and Match would have had it developed months ago!”

By the looks of it though, the guys on Dragon's Den had already got the app developed whereas Vana was making hers from scratch. They also said that they'd probably need more investors and that they'd dilute their shares, so the same type of issue was presented. I don't know if it'd work, but the Double Date idea seems better in theory than Vana's game-playing idea.

I think for some people it's probably a good idea, but my immediate thought was similar to Sarah's - some friends could fall out if they were interested in the same man or woman.
rfonzo
30-12-2015
Originally Posted by bart4858:
“He could have agreed to the deal then pulled out later if his wife objected. Apparently half the deals fall through afterwards anyway.

It did sound like he was mostly after publicity for his existing business. Having the new business given a higher profile through the efforts of a dragon wouldn't hurt the old one either!”

To relate to your second point in relation to exposure for his current business, I completely agree. Especiallym when he just passed off 'as hindsight is an expensive commodity.'
jenzie
03-01-2016
oh look
another week
another bloody SALESMAN for someone who couldn't be bovverd to come on the show themselves!
testcard
03-01-2016
But he's waterproof.
jenzie
03-01-2016
Originally Posted by testcard:
“But he's waterproof.”

only thing waterproof is his flipping HAIR!

self employed entrepreneur shyster wants money to build up HIS reputation shocker
get his trash off my tv
Inspiration
03-01-2016
That will never happen. No one agrees to 50/50 who is serious.
ustarion
03-01-2016
I'm surprised Touker doesn't demand 100% of the business.
jenzie
03-01-2016
now THERE'S a good idea, except putting her VOICE through the headphones too, therefore you could do it ANYWHERE!

now then, where's MY bloody 45% dragons???
Inspiration
03-01-2016
So wait.. it's a fitness class.. with an app... and wireless headphones.

Really? That's it?
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