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anyonefortennis
31-01-2016
I'm sure this tent thingy was on the Apprentice.
anyonefortennis
31-01-2016
Sounds like a stupid idea.
Grouty
31-01-2016
Touker invested!

Can't believe he went down to 30%, thought when he said 'i'll make you an offer', he was gona ask for about 90% or something
JDBaby
31-01-2016
Originally Posted by Grouty:
“Touker invested!

Can't believe he went down to 30%, thought when he said 'i'll make you an offer', he was gona ask for about 90% or something ”

I've seen Bad Brownie stalls a couple of times, once at a chocolate exhibition (I was about the only bloke there) and also at a coffee exhibition, and their brownies are DAMN nice, well done to them.
Clackers
31-01-2016
Who the Hell is the producer of DD?

Why do the Dragons ALWAYS wear the same clothes in EVERY episode?

I know it is all filmed in one block (one day?) but FFS we are not stupid. We do notice they always wear the same jeans, blouse...

So so lazy production.
Brummy Girl
31-01-2016
Originally Posted by Clackers:
“Who the Hell is the producer of DD?

Why do the Dragons ALWAYS wear the same clothes in EVERY episode?

I know it is all filmed in one block (one day?) but FFS we are not stupid. We do notice they always wear the same jeans, blouse...

So so lazy production.”

Do they really film them in one day? It's more likely they film them in one week. If they edit different investments from different days or times into one single episode then the Dragon's are not seen with different hair styles, clothes etc in one episode.
Clackers
31-01-2016
Originally Posted by Brummy Girl:
“Do they really film them in one day? It's more likely they film them in one week. If they edit different investments from different days or times into one single episode then the Dragon's are not seen with different hair styles, clothes etc in one episode.”

Don't know how many they film in a day, but every episode of this series (and the previous series) ALL dragons have been wearing exactly the same clothes.

If I was a rich dragon filming throughout the week, I would not wear the same clothes every day - unless the Producer demanded it, for continuity reasons.

But that is a stupid decision. What benefit is there to have the dragons wear the same stripy socks over a period of episodes that span 20 weeks?
linkinpark875
01-02-2016
No Dragons den next week not sure why.

Have to wait about 2 weeks now.
Ten_Ben
01-02-2016
Originally Posted by Clackers:
“Don't know how many they film in a day, but every episode of this series (and the previous series) ALL dragons have been wearing exactly the same clothes.

If I was a rich dragon filming throughout the week, I would not wear the same clothes every day - unless the Producer demanded it, for continuity reasons.

But that is a stupid decision. What benefit is there to have the dragons wear the same stripy socks over a period of episodes that span 20 weeks?”

Of course it's not all filmed in one day! Each pitch must take up a couple of hours or so at least by the time it's all set-up etc. I can't see them doing more than say three a day. Surely the clothing aspect is simply to allow them to compile each show from (say) a couple of week's worth of filming, so that it has a in interesting mix of products, investments/non-investments, arguments etc. You wouldn't get a suitable 'flow' if it was all shown in the order it was filmed - you might not get anyone investing for three weeks! I can't say I've ever really noticed what the Dragons wear. At least they've moved the editing away from the rigid set-up where the last pitch (and often the second) in each show was *always* an investment.
Fireball XL5
01-02-2016
Originally Posted by Ten_Ben:
“Of course it's not all filmed in one day! Each pitch must take up a couple of hours or so at least by the time it's all set-up etc. I can't see them doing more than say three a day. Surely the clothing aspect is simply to allow them to compile each show from (say) a couple of week's worth of filming, so that it has a in interesting mix of products, investments/non-investments, arguments etc. You wouldn't get a suitable 'flow' if it was all shown in the order it was filmed - you might not get anyone investing for three weeks! I can't say I've ever really noticed what the Dragons wear. At least they've moved the editing away from the rigid set-up where the last pitch (and often the second) in each show was *always* an investment.”

I've noticed Sarah Willinghams' figure-hugging tight white dress quite a lot
MR_Pitkin
01-02-2016
Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“No Dragons den next week not sure why.

Have to wait about 2 weeks now.”

Some programme about Greece??
Steve9214
01-02-2016
Originally Posted by Grouty:
“Touker invested!

Can't believe he went down to 30%, thought when he said 'i'll make you an offer', he was gona ask for about 90% or something ”

What they probably need is something like a concession unit in a big London department store, rather than a standalone shop.

Sort of thing that Touker would be VERY familiar with - he might even have one of his own that was making a loss and he was looking to stick something else in it's place.
JDBaby
01-02-2016
Originally Posted by Steve9214:
“What they probably need is something like a concession unit in a big London department store, rather than a standalone shop.

Sort of thing that Touker would be VERY familiar with - he might even have one of his own that was making a loss and he was looking to stick something else in it's place.”

Selfridges sprung to my mind straight away, but I'm sure there's lots of competition to get in there and still be expensive, though worth it think.
nathanbrazil
01-02-2016
Originally Posted by Clackers:
“What benefit is there to have the dragons wear the same stripy socks over a period of episodes that span 20 weeks?”

Perhaps it brings some small interest to an otherwise dull show. Once you've tried Shark Tank, DG is television Mogadon.
The_Bonobo
01-02-2016
Originally Posted by Anya D:
“Wow, steep offer from Touker, write off the money owed.”

I was a bit confused by that. While the guy may not ever get his loan back due to the company never making enough, it sounded like he was saying "I will give 50k, you write off around 100k, then I will take 45%". Is that not like saying "you pay around 50k and give me almost half the company"? That hardly sounds like a great deal.

Both the watches and brownies sound like short-term trends to me. Maybe some interest initially but it will probably dwindle when the novelty wears off. We'll see, maybe I am wrong. The tent one was also confusing. So was Nick not right in saying it was equivalent to a limited licensing deal? How do you handle other people doing the same thing in other places? It just seemed a bit of a naff deal. Also Peter trying to jump in with another version of the offer for the other company made no sense. It appeared that was only owned by one of the guys anyway and he was not remotely interested in investment for it. What was the point when Deborah was willing to invest in the actual thing they were asking for investment in? I can only presume that he thinks everyone will be so keen on working with him that they will bend over backwards.
Ten_Ben
01-02-2016
Originally Posted by The_Bonobo:
“Both the watches and brownies sound like short-term trends to me. Maybe some interest initially but it will probably dwindle when the novelty wears off. We'll see, maybe I am wrong. The tent one was also confusing. So was Nick not right in saying it was equivalent to a limited licensing deal? How do you handle other people doing the same thing in other places? It just seemed a bit of a naff deal. Also Peter trying to jump in with another version of the offer for the other company made no sense. It appeared that was only owned by one of the guys anyway and he was not remotely interested in investment for it. What was the point when Deborah was willing to invest in the actual thing they were asking for investment in? I can only presume that he thinks everyone will be so keen on working with him that they will bend over backwards.”

They always, always, always get the hump when they find out that the pitcher has involvement in another company and if it's successful they always want it bundled in with the one that's being offered (even without asking many questions about it ). They get miffed if they think the entrepreneur will split his time across two businesses, despite the fact that the dragons do exactly that themselves with multiple businesses and investments.
JamieHT
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by Clackers:
“Who the Hell is the producer of DD?

Why do the Dragons ALWAYS wear the same clothes in EVERY episode?

I know it is all filmed in one block (one day?) but FFS we are not stupid. We do notice they always wear the same jeans, blouse...

So so lazy production.”

I think it's like the Bake Off. They just doing for editing purposes.

I'm just catching up. Watching the watches. I already have one, funnily enough. I don't think it was called Slappie and it didn't come in the ball.
JamieHT
02-02-2016
Just finished the ep. I don't like brownies and or slash chocolate much, so obvs they wouldn't get an investment from me. Wetherspoons do bacon and maple syrup so you're 'well not with it' Touker. He's probably my least favourite dragon ever too so I'll be avoiding their business like the plague (I'm sure they'll be devastated). I'm really beginning to dislike Peter Jones this series. He was always one of my faves but he's becoming unbearable.
niceguy1966
02-02-2016
Originally Posted by Grouty:
“Touker invested!

Can't believe he went down to 30%, thought when he said 'i'll make you an offer', he was gona ask for about 90% or something ”

Touker usually likes to make outrageous offers. When everyone else complains about a valuation, he just ups the percentage until the valuation is lower.

Still, if it was my business, the less Touker time the better.
chuck_wippl
03-02-2016
Originally Posted by anyonefortennis:
“Peters face was priceless when he said that. These dragons think the whole business world revolves around them. That was a nice slap in the face for them. ”

My thoughts exactly It's sooo arrogant to be so rude and boastful about how amazing they are.

Originally Posted by Ess_Bee:
“I think Peter Jones has turned into someone I don't like very much.”

Same. He used to be my favourite. Jenkins is my favourite now. Intelligent, well spoken, modest.

Originally Posted by Clackers:
“Why do the Dragons ALWAYS wear the same clothes in EVERY episode?”

Like another poster said, it's just for editing purposes. Not just to mix up which pitches are show in what episode, but, similar to Bake Off & The Apprentice, it's so that if one of the Dragons (or a baker, or an apprentice) pulls a good shocked face, or a good eye-roll, or a good confused look or whatever, they can bank that and decide when to slot it in!

That's why it annoys me so much on Bake Off and The Apprentice when people rant "Oh my gosh I can't believe she just rolled her eyes at her! What a b*tch!" People shouldn't be so naive thinking that was literally just then the person did it! That could have been caught on camera weeks ago but the producers thought it fitted in nicely/looks entertaining to show it right after another contestant said something.
Mr Oleo Strut
04-02-2016
Feeling a bit jaded with this show. Used to like it but am getting a bit tired of loosers peddling tripe and patronising (albeit sussesful) dragons. Time to go and have a snooze, I think!
Rroses
05-02-2016
Quote:
“Originally Posted by Clackers
Who the Hell is the producer of DD?

Why do the Dragons ALWAYS wear the same clothes in EVERY episode?

I know it is all filmed in one block (one day?) but FFS we are not stupid. We do notice they always wear the same jeans, blouse...

So so lazy production.”

I really do not see your point, it's clearly for continuity and editing as already mentioned.
You assume wrongly it is all filmed on one day , since each pitch can take hours reduced to the section we see , it will be several days at least, they wouldn't want clothes changing between pitches on the same broadcast episode. Sadly even after watching TV for decades , it appears the obvious needs to be pointed out to some people.
bart4858
07-02-2016
So why isn't the show on this week then (7-Feb-2016)? Or is it the end of the series?

(I only have two shows on series-record on my PVR, this one and Room 101. Both have already been messed about with over the last few weeks with each missing one week's episode, which I only find out about when I sit down to watch it and it's not there!

I'm not very pleased! Why can't they drop some other shows for a change?)
Kenny Maclean
07-02-2016
From their official twitter account...

"Remember there is NO #dragonsden this week!! We will be back soon with a BRAND NEW episode! 🐉🐉🐉🐉🐉"
Toggler
08-02-2016
Originally Posted by bart4858:
“So why isn't the show on this week then (7-Feb-2016)? Or is it the end of the series?

(I only have two shows on series-record on my PVR, this one and Room 101. Both have already been messed about with over the last few weeks with each missing one week's episode, which I only find out about when I sit down to watch it and it's not there!

I'm not very pleased! Why can't they drop some other shows for a change?)”

I quite agree, fed up of it being taken off air for some no good reason
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