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Old 09-09-2012, 22:47
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Does anyone know if they film ALL the episodes in one series in one day? The reason I'm asking is because Hilary Devey always has the same clothes on each week. Deborah Meaden and the others may, too, but I just notice the silly costumes that Devey wears.
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Old 09-09-2012, 23:24
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this guy is deluded, i can send a 30kilo bag/parcel via UPs to most of the UK for £9.99, £4 more for next day delivery!
Indeed.

Did some pricing for places like Greece etc and he is around £20 more expensive each time.

Add to that they take 3-5 days so if you were using it for excess baggage you'd need to send it in advance, which is inconvenient.

Not sure why Hilary Devey was having a go at him though about how he is going to track parcels with the couriers. I guess she's never heard of an API.
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Old 09-09-2012, 23:27
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Does anyone know if they film ALL the episodes in one series in one day? The reason I'm asking is because Hilary Devey always has the same clothes on each week. Deborah Meaden and the others may, too, but I just notice the silly costumes that Devey wears.
I don't think its all in one day, but they do wear the same outfits for all the series - so the producer can pick and choose which pitches go a program and so balance out those that get backing and those that don't.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:13
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Not a fan of the new set, however what really annoyed me was the stupid camera that did not just focus on something. In 60 seconds during one of the pictches the camers chanced focus 9 times. I also do not know why they felt the need to keep zooming in and out. While i like DUncan not really interested in seeing the side of his face when somebody it pitching and he is saying/doing nothing.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:47
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Does anyone know if they film ALL the episodes in one series in one day? The reason I'm asking is because Hilary Devey always has the same clothes on each week. Deborah Meaden and the others may, too, but I just notice the silly costumes that Devey wears.
Nah it's filmed over a number of weeks normally judging from twitter posts i've seen during filming. In one of the behind the scenes episodes they showed the make up room and if i'm not mistaken they had rails of clothing for each Dragon.
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Old 11-09-2012, 14:13
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They could reduce the show to 30 minutes if they got rid of the 'But Peter Jones looks bemused!' Evan Davies commentary track!
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Old 11-09-2012, 19:58
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Can some business expert explain the following:

Debra asks for 20% but with the rights of a 25% shareholder (if I understand that correctly)
Peter asks for 30% but then says he'll drop to 20% when he's got his money back
Theo asks for 25%

I may be completely missing something or just not have a very good business brain but why would you choose Peter or Theo? I know you would sacrifice the extra equity if either of those dragons were particularly knowledgable or have contacts specifically relating to your business but this wasn't made clear. I dismissed Peter immediately but that's who they went for and I wasn't sure why. It would be good if this was explained.
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Old 11-09-2012, 20:34
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Can some business expert explain the following:

Debra asks for 20% but with the rights of a 25% shareholder (if I understand that correctly)
Peter asks for 30% but then says he'll drop to 20% when he's got his money back
Theo asks for 25%

I may be completely missing something or just not have a very good business brain but why would you choose Peter or Theo? I know you would sacrifice the extra equity if either of those dragons were particularly knowledgable or have contacts specifically relating to your business but this wasn't made clear. I dismissed Peter immediately but that's who they went for and I wasn't sure why. It would be good if this was explained.
I'm not quite sure myself but I would think that they have done their homework and had already decided which Dragon suited their product and where they wanted to go with it. I mean if your idea involved trucks and distribution then even if Hilary wanted a bigger percentage, you would go with her over the rest as she is in that business and has the infrastructure already in place.

As for Debra asking for 20% but with the rights of a 25% shareholder, I think she just wanted 20% equity but an equal vote as any of the rest. If she only had a 20% vote, she would never get a say in the business and would get outvoted.

I think!
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Old 11-09-2012, 20:38
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Debra asks for 20% but with the rights of a 25% shareholder (if I understand that correctly)
Peter asks for 30% but then says he'll drop to 20% when he's got his money back
Theo asks for 25%

I may be completely missing something or just not have a very good business brain but why would you choose Peter or Theo? I know you would sacrifice the extra equity if either of those dragons were particularly knowledgable or have contacts specifically relating to your business but this wasn't made clear.
I think Peter said he'd drop back to equal shares (so 25%).

So maybe they just didn't like Meaden, and sacrified 5% (1.7% each) to avoid dealing with her. (I don't like her either.)

I wasn't sure exactly what the product was, it looked vaguely technical, if so then that's Peter's expertise. (And if it was only coloured headphones, what would a group of guys be involved in something like that?)
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Old 11-09-2012, 20:39
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Same old Dragons Den.

Bookend the "show" with investments at either end
fill the rest with "Dragons" shouting at idiots.

Used to be a good show but it's lost it's way.

Too predictable.
We're a pathetic nation of losers if this the extent of our entrepreneurial acumen.
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Old 11-09-2012, 22:17
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Same old Dragons Den.

Bookend the "show" with investments at either end
fill the rest with "Dragons" shouting at idiots.

Used to be a good show but it's lost it's way.

Too predictable.
We're a pathetic nation of losers if this the extent of our entrepreneurial acumen.
And if you dare to watch the next one you lose.
This show has always been Dragons v Idiots.
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:53
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I just didnt get the 3 lads who were selling stuff that you can find in any pound shop/street market.
That market is already saturated, I mean a phone cover thats designed as a Union Jack, How orignal...Not.
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:56
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The 3 lads with the phone stuff had a big feature in the business section of the Metro yesterday
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:32
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I just didnt get the 3 lads who were selling stuff that you can find in any pound shop/street market.
That market is already saturated, I mean a phone cover thats designed as a Union Jack, How orignal...Not.
As original as using the 'not' phrase you mean?

You are correct in that it's saturated, but there was no denying there stuff looked better - especially the union flag one - and they had good finances too which shows they are successful.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:57
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Same old Dragons Den.

Bookend the "show" with investments at either end
fill the rest with "Dragons" shouting at idiots.

Used to be a good show but it's lost it's way.

Too predictable.
We're a pathetic nation of losers if this the extent of our entrepreneurial acumen.
This annoys me, as does Evan Davies, who just seems to spoil the show with his hints and spoilers.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:53
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I just didnt get the 3 lads who were selling stuff that you can find in any pound shop/street market.
That market is already saturated, I mean a phone cover thats designed as a Union Jack, How orignal...Not.
At one point, they all looked the same way, at the same time, and for a second I thought Meerkats.
Hate to say it but I fear this show has seen it's better days.
Thought it was a great start to the new series, but why change the set.

And Hilary's investment with B, I'm guessing, is going to be BIG.
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:33
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I think they chose Peter as they knew he would have the connections, and also the knowledge of the telecommunications industry, which is what they are pretty much in. They were mostly selling phone covers/headphones where are all great phone accessories. So Peter was the logical choice for them, even if his deal maybe wasnt the best. He hinted at that during the negotiation, that he would be the logical and best choice over the others due to his current business.
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Old 12-09-2012, 12:53
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I just didnt get the 3 lads who were selling stuff that you can find in any pound shop/street market.
That market is already saturated, I mean a phone cover thats designed as a Union Jack, How orignal...Not.
I guess you could say the same about anything 'designer' from watches to handbags and shoes, but if you can establish a market identity for yourself as the genuine Gucci or Rolex or whatever and occupy that space in the market then you have big profit potential......the three boys were featured in the next day's metro posing naked with strategically placed product, I wouldn't be surprised to see them promoted as the boyband entrepeneurs as a part of the branding.
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Old 12-09-2012, 13:24
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Same old Dragons Den.

Bookend the "show" with investments at either end
fill the rest with "Dragons" shouting at idiots.

Used to be a good show but it's lost it's way.

Too predictable.
We're a pathetic nation of losers if this the extent of our entrepreneurial acumen.
The first series was exactly the same.
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Old 12-09-2012, 14:14
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Well I thought it was a big mistake to indulge the dreamy woman who was on first with an investment. I'd have asked her what level of profit she had declared on her tax return. This would probably have resulted in another blank stare and a 'uhhm a uhhm' type response.
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Old 12-09-2012, 14:17
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I caught this the other night and, for the first time ever, the show had me in stitches for about 10 minutes.

It was when those three guys were in the Den, and the third kept miming as the other two spoke. The puzzled looks on the Dragons' faces really tickled me, and then when Peter brought it up with him, I lost it.
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Old 12-09-2012, 19:25
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I think they chose Peter as they knew he would have the connections, and also the knowledge of the telecommunications industry, which is what they are pretty much in. They were mostly selling phone covers/headphones where are all great phone accessories. So Peter was the logical choice for them, even if his deal maybe wasnt the best. He hinted at that during the negotiation, that he would be the logical and best choice over the others due to his current business.
Most I'm guessing, who take part in this, have a favourite, Pete was their favourite.
But it is good when they have a choice.
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Old 12-09-2012, 19:46
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loads of phone covers are sold on amazon and ebay nowadays, I dont suppose their products can actually compete with the prices online.
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Old 13-09-2012, 00:23
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They could never do a whole series in 1 day. You have however many episodes in a series, all lasting around 1hr, you don't see all the pitches, those you do see aren't the full pitches, plus there's the time spent doing hair, make up, eating, drinking, taking things in and out of the den, so it'd take far too much time.
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Old 16-09-2012, 07:54
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Appalling business idea!
That is making good profits.
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