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albion-mad-nick
23-02-2014
Bizarre investment.
Psycho_Ned
23-02-2014
Duncan sits there week after week investing in nowt and decides to open his wallet for that?!

£80 a pop they're never gonna sell.
rhumble
23-02-2014
if there was a kids tablet in there it might have been better, but a few coloured pencils and snakes and ladders, ridiculous
Hyram Fyram
23-02-2014
Imagine if Evan actually ate something. None of his suits would fit.
Tom_Mullen
23-02-2014
Originally Posted by Inspiration:
“Maybe she said something off camera because Peter seemed to give her the benefit of the doubt that her intentions were good. But the whole "Let's make money out of children's problems and let's make technology the answer to them" just didn't sit well with me at all. It just feels wrong. I've no problem with helping kids, counselling, whatever. But as soon as I saw micro payments my blood began to boil.”

I agree making money out of children's mental problems is just wrong, I am not sure why Peter was defending her but it was obvious the other dragons weren't comfortable with the idea.
Sick Bullet
23-02-2014
I'm surprised with Duncan, that looked crap.
Hotgossip
23-02-2014
Didn't get the suitcase at all. Too expensive for a start. OK you get a puzzle book and some pencils but they're going to have to be replaced all the time. Also what age is that aimed at because a puzzle book for a 4 year old would not be suitable for a 10 year old.

Surprised that Duncan decided to invest.
BelfastGuy125
23-02-2014
1. Why do so many inventors on the show try and fill kids toys with games kids no longer want or are interested in? Kids don't want board games. Even when kids did want board games, they wouldn't have wanted a stupid case one. Colouring pencils keeps a kid occupied for 10 minutes.

2.Why on earth did she not even attempt to negotiate for the equity? Does she not realise that there is LITERALLY no harm in trying to get him down? You might as well as. He isn't going to pull out of the deal if you want 5% off.
Inspiration
23-02-2014
Can't see any mention of Duncan on her website nor the business on Duncan's twitter tonight so I suspect this may have been one investment that didn't actually get signed.

Interestingly the product seems to be morphing into a general "pod in a case" product now not just for kids. The pod holding ipads and stuff to get around airline restrictions. But surely you could just get a case with a zip up pocket on the front to hold stuff like that which you wanted to access on the plane?

I wonder if Duncan saw something in the airline restrictions bit and that's why he went in.
BlueEyedMrsP
23-02-2014
Originally Posted by Hyram Fyram:
“Imagine if Evan actually ate something. None of his suits would fit.”

He looks like Wallace, I keep waiting for him to say, 'Cheese, Gromit! A bit of Wensleydale!"
BlueEyedMrsP
23-02-2014
Regarding kids and traveling, I would say the biggest hurdle is with babies and toddlers. Those suitcases were geared for the 5-8 age market, not what I would say is really a problem on the plane. And the lady said there were other sticky games they could put on it, and Kelly asked how many, she said 10 (I think) and Kelly said kids would get bored of that. How many times are you taking your kids on a long flight?

Those cases were really over-priced, you could buy a bigger case that would hold more stuff and buy your own coloring books and markers for probably 1/3 of that.
roddydogs
24-02-2014
You want to de seen so, you put small lights on............a black tracksuit.
The motion thing is rubbish, iv got one on my telly I switched it off, it goes off Unless your actually moving, say your dozing (old like me). & also it cant switch fixed lights, only ones with a plug.
sarahj1986
24-02-2014
Only the second time Ive watched from this series and last nights ideas were just odd -

1, the guy with the supposed energy saving egg. It costs £40 PER ROOM, so the saving would be negligible surely?

2, The kids app/weird doll just odd, I can see the idea she was trying to get across but surely parents should talk to their children rather than rely on an app to find out how their children are feeling.

3, The glow thingy on a tracksuit, cheap and nasty, hes basically but lights on a tracksuit. His app which downloads recipes into Tesco sounded so much better, why didn't he take that to them like Peter Jones said?

4, That suitcase. What was that all about, and £80?! A cheap and nasty looking thing which I don't actually think offers anything unique about it, its a coloured suitcase with crayons in which can be bought for a lot less than £80, I wouldn't even spend £80 on my own suitcase let alone that cheap thing for kids. I think possibly the reason why Duncan invested was partly down to the Trunki which was previously on Dragons Den and now sells well, Ive seen him quoted as saying it was his biggest regret not investing so for him maybe he this in the back of his mind. Still I do think its a pointless item.
bart4858
24-02-2014
Originally Posted by roddydogs:
“You want to de seen so, you put small lights on............a black tracksuit.
The motion thing is rubbish, iv got one on my telly I switched it off, it goes off Unless your actually moving, say your dozing (old like me). & also it cant switch fixed lights, only ones with a plug.”

I had trouble 'getting' with most of the products tonight.

The energy-egg thing, is it just an infra-red sensor that switches off a socket after a short delay? For most things that I've got plugged in, that would be incredibly annoying! (For others, it would be annoying if they unexpectedly started up again! Or is this just 'one-way'?) My TV takes ages to power itself back up for example, while I'd probably have to restart my paused DVD from the beginning.

Things like PVRs and PCs don't like having their AC power abruptly turned off. Chargers and toasters and freezers don't need to be turned off when someone leaves the room. (And they introduced a special product so that such things can be left on!) And what was that remote/smartphone he was fiddling with at the end?

The lady on next with the childrens' product, that was just too dull to try and understand and I fast-forwarded through.

With the illuminated strips on the tracksuit, I couldn't see what was wrong with the usual reflective strips. Which don't need a battery either.
T no1 scot high
24-02-2014
Sorry but anyone with common sense would not have bought any of them. Turn appliances off at the plug, emmotionaly connect with your child, clip some led lights on you, learn to tie . deprrssing
Jackapple
24-02-2014
Love the way Deborah doesnt take an OUNCE of crap off of Piers Linney.
Hotgossip
24-02-2014
Originally Posted by Jackapple:
“Love the way Deborah doesnt take an OUNCE of crap off of Piers Linney.”

So do I. She's a feisty lady.
conceptas
24-02-2014
I'm in the same age group as these 'Dragons' and it's depressing viewing, soon as the camera pans onto Duncan and his sour face, feel a big black cloud gathering in my living room. Really hope I'm not as grumpy as this troupe. Could do with Dragons half our age with a bit of life and bounce to inject some joy and enthusiasm into the show.
Spitting Image would have a ball with these Dragons
sausagesandwich
24-02-2014
Originally Posted by conceptas:
“I'm in the same age group as these 'Dragons' and it's depressing viewing, soon as the camera pans onto Duncan and his sour face, feel a big black cloud gathering in my living room. Really hope I'm not as grumpy as this troupe. Could do with Dragons half our age with a bit of life and bounce to inject some joy and enthusiasm into the show.
Spitting Image would have a ball with these Dragons ”

search YouTube for the Harry Enfield & Paul Whitehouse take-offs, they are a joy
conceptas
24-02-2014
Thanks for that, watched them and so funny, can't beat a good laugh
Sammy2
24-02-2014
Originally Posted by Jackapple:
“Love the way Deborah doesnt take an OUNCE of crap off of Piers Linney.”

I didn't think it was clear cut he interrupted her, at least in the real world that wouldn't count as interrupting but I suppose in the Den the Dragons take turns to speak (I think Peter Jones shouted out as well just as Piers gave a longer answer)
catinabasket
24-02-2014
Originally Posted by Inspiration:
“Can't see any mention of Duncan on her website nor the business on Duncan's twitter tonight so I suspect this may have been one investment that didn't actually get signed..”

I expect that on reflection she baulked at turning her £117k loan into equity for Duncan's sake.
Jackapple
24-02-2014
Originally Posted by Sammy2:
“I didn't think it was clear cut he interrupted her, at least in the real world that wouldn't count as interrupting but I suppose in the Den the Dragons take turns to speak (I think Peter Jones shouted out as well just as Piers gave a longer answer)”

Yes but I seem to remember her getting ticked off with him before, so there seems to be a little bit of niggle going on there, and he is a bit of a **** to be fair
lea_uk
24-02-2014
During last night's episode, they showed Piers saying that people who use disposable nappies don't drink Latte. I wonder if he was talking about babies or the parents. I wish I knew what he actual product was.
myscimitar
24-02-2014
Originally Posted by rhumble:
“"Hoppen gives us her snobby comments"”

..."i was bulled at School" was it the nose!!!!, she really is a vile person.
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