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Old 24-08-2014, 21:54
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I think I read somewhere that Duncan won't be back next series
That's very good news.
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Old 24-08-2014, 23:33
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Wasnt there a mid series break in the last series too?
I think there may have been, can't really remember

That's very good news.
I think its a shame, was only really worth watching for him imo.
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Old 24-08-2014, 23:36
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I think I read somewhere that Duncan won't be back next series
Aww I like him to.
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Old 25-08-2014, 00:03
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I think I read somewhere that Duncan won't be back next series
I assume (as this was just 6 / 12) that he'll still be around for the second half of this series.
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Old 25-08-2014, 00:05
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Wasnt there a mid series break in the last series too?
I think there may have been, can't really remember



I think its a shame, was only really worth watching for him imo.
Yes, there was.
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Old 25-08-2014, 01:50
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I assume (as this was just 6 / 12) that he'll still be around for the second half of this series.
Is this not the second batch of 6 for this years series already? (so today was episode 12/12?)
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Old 25-08-2014, 04:17
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To be honest, I've pretty much had enough of Dragon's Den as it is. Most of the pitches are mainly intended to get free publicity on TV. Winning a deal with a dragon is secondary. Hardly any inventions appear these days, almost everything is about repackaging old ideas or distributing someone else's product in the UK. Without Theo, and soon to be without Duncan, the show has lost its sense of humour. It's now a parody of itself, it's impossible to take seriously with that fake lift.
DD is about businesses of all types.

Personally I'm more interested in pitches featuring already established businesses than inventions which haven't yet sold (and aren't even made yet).
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Old 25-08-2014, 08:53
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Yeah. Duncan is second only to Theo in Dragons Den Likeability.
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Old 25-08-2014, 09:16
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I would have made exactly the same decision as she did. Deborah had already thought of an idea for expanding the business into another area, and I believe she had more to offer the business. It's not better to have a 80% share in a failing or just-breaking even business instead of a 75% share in a highly successful business.
I thought the same. I think she'd also be much nicer to work with than Kelly. I liked the way she met the young 19 yr old entrepreneur half way last week because she wanted to start off their partnership in the right way. I can imagine she takes the trouble to mentor people to help them develop.
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Old 25-08-2014, 10:31
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Is this not the second batch of 6 for this years series already? (so today was episode 12/12?)
According to Sky's EPG, it was 6 of 12.

I think we had the second half of last years at the start of this year, so we will probably get the second half of this series at the same point in the new year (with Duncan) and the next series (without Duncan) starting later next near (if it comes back).
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Old 25-08-2014, 10:48
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To be honest, the Dragons are Theo, Duncan and Peter. They made the show. It's already not the same show without Theo and to lose Duncan would be too much.
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Old 25-08-2014, 11:13
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I like Duncan and I'm sorry he's leaving the show. I don't know where some people get the idea that he doesn't invest, he seems to make quite a few offers whether they're accepted or not is another question. I don't think he's miserable either, he seems to have a good sense of humour and he's always the first one up if any of the pitchers asks for volunteers to try out any inventions. I think the show will be worse off without him. If anything Piers should go, he never invests and doesn't seem to add much. I've noticed a few times he starts off liking an invention/business idea but when the other Dragons find flaws or say they don't like something he then changes his opinion and goes on about the flaws as if he thought of them. He's a bit of a bandwagon jumper.
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Old 25-08-2014, 17:42
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DD is about businesses of all types.

Personally I'm more interested in pitches featuring already established businesses than inventions which haven't yet sold (and aren't even made yet).
I didn't say I only liked inventions but they used to be a substantial part of the show. It's only interesting if the business idea is something novel and that is less frequent these days. Quite often it's a product someone has found abroad and wants to sell in the UK. That's just trading.

Add to that the reducing number of characters among the dragons and the terrible plodding commentary and you have a show which is becoming past its own sell by date.
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Old 26-08-2014, 08:38
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Piers is about as much use to the Den as a chocolate fireguard - Even when he seemed keen on the helmets he manages to say 'I'm Out' without any real why!

The guy that came back was a nice reminder of how the Den used to be, a slightly whacky guy with a slightly whacky invention but was actually serious about it! Peter and Duncan literally carried the whole pitch!
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Old 26-08-2014, 09:29
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Something more than similar to the "garden bench" idea was featured on channel 4: http://www.channel4.com/programmes/t...-floating-home
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Old 26-08-2014, 10:50
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What I don't get with the light/helmet idea, is how long will it be before a driver gets dazzled by the beam, it can't be safe to have a light attached to the head with such free movement.
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Old 26-08-2014, 12:09
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Article here about the "Pants on Fire" pair and their experiances in the den.
Whats surprising is that the game they were pitching for was one involving Marmite, but they had trouble with using the brand name. Seems the Beeb cut out all references to it. It did seem odd to me that they got investment for the liar liar game as it really seemed rubbish to me.
I like their opinions on the dragons - chimes well with those on this thread

"We thought we'd really like Piers Linney and Kelly Hoppen but in fact we thought Piers was quite dull and Kelly was a little bit rude and dismissive,' Mr McLuckie said.

'Deborah Meaden was a surprise, as we thought she would be hard-nosed when in fact she was absolutely delightful - so lovely.

'We thought Peter Jones would be fun, which he was, and we thought Duncan Bannatyne would be a hard task-master, when in fact he was lovely - we are so pleased to be working with those two.

'They're both great to work with and a really good laugh, too.'"
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Old 31-08-2014, 20:18
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This show is quite funny sometimes. Flash a healthy profit margin and they're like rats in a sack.
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Old 31-08-2014, 20:22
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Oh it's a repeat! I was about to launch into a rant about them recycling pitches.
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Old 31-08-2014, 20:53
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lol! I came on here to ask if this was a repeat as I am sure I had seen this pitch before. I see it is
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Old 01-09-2014, 00:56
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Has it finished? I wasn't expecting a repeat.
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Old 01-09-2014, 06:13
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Yup, have a good cry & get offered money for a lousy product.
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:11
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Yup, have a good cry & get offered money for a lousy product.
It's sold in Holland & Barrett, with "as seen on DD" on the label
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:17
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Article here about the "Pants on Fire" pair and their experiances in the den.
Whats surprising is that the game they were pitching for was one involving Marmite, but they had trouble with using the brand name. Seems the Beeb cut out all references to it. It did seem odd to me that they got investment for the liar liar game as it really seemed rubbish to me.
I like their opinions on the dragons - chimes well with those on this thread

"We thought we'd really like Piers Linney and Kelly Hoppen but in fact we thought Piers was quite dull and Kelly was a little bit rude and dismissive,' Mr McLuckie said.

'Deborah Meaden was a surprise, as we thought she would be hard-nosed when in fact she was absolutely delightful - so lovely.

'We thought Peter Jones would be fun, which he was, and we thought Duncan Bannatyne would be a hard task-master, when in fact he was lovely - we are so pleased to be working with those two.

'They're both great to work with and a really good laugh, too.'"
From what we see on the TV, those would be my opinions on the Dragons. Hoppen just seems to look down her (considerable) nose at everybody.
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Old 07-09-2014, 22:01
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Nobody watching it tonight? I wouldn't blame you. The editing has reduced the show to a sort of end of the pier talent show. We did not see one business related question directed at the Texan with the beef jerky product, we have no idea at all what his sales and profits are, where he makes the product, what his forecasts are or why he needs an investment. I'm sure these questions were asked but they were not shown. Instead garbage about his suit.
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