Samsung with their 30+ Android phones? I think the point is still pretty much the same.

10x as many models
2x the shipments

And Apple still makes more profit than Samsung.

Again, not a pissing contest, just to question the Apple is doomed mantra.

Maybe a lot to do with making billions out of Britain without paying any tax.

Does samsung have a good record of paying tax?

They have some interesting history

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...a-8510588.html

So do Samsung make more pre tax profits then?

Not to mention things like this.

And this.

Can you imagine the furore if this was Apple?

It is called being secure, or trying to be as secure as possible in this world.



What you call progress, someone else may not.


Ok



It was to get a ticket.



I seen a couple of Taxis with card terminals, but not many.


A lot of people don't watch TV. I get all my video entertainment from Netflix and DVd/blue-ray. Better than what the BBc offers me for their £145 a year.



It may do, it may not, it could mean Android based phones only, it could mean Samsung phones only or phones on the Vodafone network.




but did you not say to islandniles "I dunno to be honest! I'm just in fairness using guesswork.

I think what will happen is Visa make the app to work with their cards, you would put the card number etc in to the app and it would come off like a normal card payment. Since Visa technically process the payment i'm not sure bank authorisation is needed."

So you have no idea either.



i know adverts are there just to tell people about a product and to try and get people excited about the item product. But even on their own website there is very little info.



Machine down the road outside the co-op, I get the money I think I need for the week. A machine across the road in the local shop if I am not going to the Co-op, but I don't normally use that one as they charge, so better to get something and get cash back.

I do use my Debit card, just not very often.


You ask most people what they want from a smart phone and see the replies, i bet NFC is pretty low on the list if it gets there at all.



Ok, the chance of it happening to me is pretty slim, even if I used my card most of the time, since I normally go into the same shops.


I just carry enough for what I need. i never felt comfortable in getting say a product for a couple of quid and paying by card. So even if I did use my card a lot, I would still need cash for smaller payments and also for shops that don't accept cards.


That is you, if that is the way you want to live your life then that is up to you.



This is just another, we want you to do this, millions of people got it , so you have to have it.

This is the problem, we all got to be the same, we all got to be online, i suppose being online makes it easier for the government to know what we are doing Joke by the way, but it may come.

4 million homes in the UK are not connected to the internet and the government thinks that is a bad thing, maybe they got more important things to spend their money on or they just don't want the net, yet the government think they are missing out and should have the internet.

They had that Martha person poking her nose in.

I don't watch TV, you be surprised at the amount of people who is shocked that I don't watch TV and they think it is strange. It just annoys me that some people think we should all be the bloody same.





they have ran away with a lot of the countries cash, how many banks have we bailed out?


Some banks will send out a normal debit/credit card if asked, i am pretty sure Lloyds is one of them
Anyway, how difficult is it for them to disable the NFC function?

We will see next year when it is time for my card to replace if it have NFC in or not, if it does and i can't get it changed then it will be staying home even more than the card I got now.


I don't mind, if you will get a answer is a different thing

48.


No, just being careful.


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Normally better service, more friendly and they are normally doing it because they want to, not just as a job. Ok, of cause they are doing it to make money as well, but most seems to love doing what they are doing and seems to do what ever they can to please their customers.

They are also better priced than larger hotels as well.



Just because i know them, it don't mean they are like me.


Maybe you should step back from technology a bit and open your eyes.

I do that with a few days away in a log cabin now and again, just me and a friend and even her 18 year old daughter will come now and again. No mobile phones there, no signal and it is heaven.

If i have to tell you then there is no point, just open your eyes and see what it have done over the last 50 years or more.

i am not saying all technology is bad, but I think we rely on it too much now.

Why do people care that apple is selling more phones than Samsung or Samsung is selling more phones that HTC? It is like the Xbox V PS3, you buy what you want or what you think you need.

I got a Ps3 because it done what I wanted it to do, I got a Nexus 4, again because I like it, not because Lg made it.

I prefer AMD CPU's, but I know full well that most people will get a Intel based machine. ok, most people will get a Arm based unit these days, but you get the point.

This is why I find it such a joke that self righteous people on this forum lay into Apple as the Evil Empire when the whole ethos of many non-Western companies is underpinned with a culture of bribery and corruption, this is normal practice in many parts of the world. I'm not saying Apple would be any better if they were based in South Korea but they are no better or worse than any other large company. No large company is altruistic at heart.

The way this "Apple is doomed" narrative has come about, with much of the media and internet waiting, almost willing them to fail is a really odd phenomenon.

On the subject of comparative profits, there was a report recently about how Samsung had eclipsed Apple in terms of profit.

Although to reach that conclusion, the Samsung figure actually included tablets and pcs as well as phones. And the Apple figure was a crude 50% of their profits, based on IIRC revenue, but ignored the fact that Apple have larger margins on their phones than any of their other products.

Again, not a pissing contest, but it does highlight the misreporting that goes on when it comes to Apple.

Indeed.

No need for any imagination. There are not many sites that do honest reviews.
gsmarena and anand are a couple. I'm quite sure there are more web sites that keep it real.

Unless Apple have been paying people to post fake reviews, I think there's every need.

If you could clarify whether that's the case or not, that would help.

And also let us know Samsung's pre-tax profits are greater than Apple's.

Again, not a pissing contest, but that's just a couple of misleading suggestions you've made in recent posts.

I did not even think Apple directly asked publishers to fix the e-book prices.

No, I think you have to tell me because frankly your posts are getting more and more off the wall; I'm undecided at the moment as to if your posts are a deliberate wind up/trolling or if your a tad barking mad.

Hey, guys! I posted some stuff about mobile payments and NFC yesterday! But, I guess this thread is no longer about that. It's an argument about Apple and Android. Like all other threads.

Sorry. For my part, its not about arguing about one over the other, but wishing people would stop posting nonsense about Apple.

I guess that's the nature of discussions though - going off on tangents.

NFC > Apple are bad / morons for not including NFC > Are they really though?

Sometimes I wonder if you're even capable of answering a single straight question.

I don't wonder - I know he can't

I'm a little surprised by the removal of the nfc function from google wallet, but as they are driven by the US market, I expect it is because of the limited interest over there.

No. I've never seen it being used either.

I would have thought that Apple have looked at the market and decided if it is worth the extra cost to put NFC into their phone. at the end of the day Apple have been around for many years and I expect they have done their home work.

I would have thought that Samsung have looked at the market and decided it is worth the extra cost to put NFC into their phone. at the end of the day Samsung have been around for many years and I expect they have done their home work.

To be fair, Samsung have a tendency to throw everything plus the kitchen sink at their phones, rather than necessarily have done much homework.

The results of the survey that someone posted above, which stated that 90% of consumers do not consider NFC an important factor when buying a new phone, seem to back that up.

Can't you think of your own words.

I am pretty sure Samsung have done their homework and maybe thought that it is worth the extra cost to put NFC into their phones and so have other manufactures. I am not saying that it is right or wrong to include or not include NFC, just saying I am pretty sure that Apple knows what they are doing.

I am not defending Apple, I don't even like their phones, but not including NFC have not done them any harm. The main reason why their sales have gone down is because people now got more choice and at a lower price.