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Old 10-09-2012, 20:42
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I thought he was going to be the new hardman of the square?? I'm really disappointed cos Jamie Foreman is a great actor but so far the storylines have been poor. All he's done is chase his daughter round and bully her boyfriends. Snooooooze....
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Old 10-09-2012, 20:42
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He WAS the hardman and he WAS scaring everyone on the square but everyone moaned that he was doing it too much....You can't win with people on here.
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Old 10-09-2012, 20:44
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He WAS the hardman and he WAS scaring everyone on the square but everyone moaned that he was doing it too much....You can't win with people on here.
We can't all the same opinions. We are not machines.
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Old 10-09-2012, 20:45
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He WAS the hardman and he WAS scaring everyone on the square but everyone moaned that he was doing it too much....You can't win with people on here.
He was a wannabe gangster and he was bullying people weaker than him. He might have stood up to Phil but he's not in the same league as the true gangsters of the past. He's a small-time pr!ck with a few connections, not a hardman. His hired hitman wouldn't take him seriously. Bring back Grant and he'd sort this "hardman" out with a single punch.
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Old 10-09-2012, 20:45
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He WAS the hardman and he WAS scaring everyone on the square but everyone moaned that he was doing it too much....You can't win with people on here.
Who would complain that he's being too nasty? Jokers! We've got enough wet men on the square, bring back the tough guys and the PC brigade, well they can sod off!
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Old 10-09-2012, 20:45
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We can't all the same opinions. We are not machines.
Not saying we are. But the way the OP posted, it was like Derek's been like this all the time. He hasn't. He HAS been the 'ardman but everyone winged about it.
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Old 10-09-2012, 20:48
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Not saying we are. But the way the OP posted, it was like Derek's been like this all the time. He hasn't. He HAS been the 'ardman but everyone winged about it.
Was his "hardman" act really any different to him bullying Fatboy?
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Old 10-09-2012, 20:49
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Was his "hardman" act really any different to him bullying Fatboy?
Rmember when Phil and Jack were fighting when Derek first came into it, he said "You take on my brothers.........You take on me!" and he really looked intimidating.
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Old 10-09-2012, 20:50
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He is going after characters little girls could intimidate like the Goons, Ian Beale and Fatboy, I mean seriously.
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Old 10-09-2012, 20:52
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Rmember when Phil and Jack were fighting when Derek first came into it, he said "You take on my brothers.........You take on me!" and he really looked intimidating.
Yes in a way, but I see no difference in his warning to Phil and his warnings to Anthony, David, Lucy, Pat, Fatboy, Ian....I, personally, cannot take him seriously as a hardman.
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Old 10-09-2012, 20:52
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In Dereks first few scenes we had Pat being scared of him and that was so out of character that it just didn't sit right and then we had David Wicks being scared of him and that fight was so unrealistic that it just alienated viewers and Dereks hard man image just didn't gel.
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Old 10-09-2012, 20:54
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In Dereks first few scenes we had Pat being scared of him and that was so out of character that it just didn't sit right and then we had David Wicks being scared of him and that fight was so unrealistic that it just alienated viewers and Dereks hard man image just didn't gel.
Yes, exactly, the Pat who stood up to the murderous gangster Johnny Allen trembling at the sight of "no-rep" Derek Branning? Pathetic.

Of course, in 1996 we had David Wicks beating the living crap out of Derek....this time around he just allowed himself to be bullied by him. I mean, WTF.
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Old 10-09-2012, 20:55
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I've nothing meaningful to add to the discussion - but I just wanted to say I LOVE the thread title.
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Old 10-09-2012, 20:56
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I've nothing meaningful to add to the discussion - but I just wanted to say I LOVE the thread title.
Lol - brilliant, isn't it? Fitting, too
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Old 10-09-2012, 21:00
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Yes, exactly, the Pat who stood up to the murderous gangster Johnny Allen trembling at the sight of "no-rep" Derek Branning? Pathetic.

Of course, in 1996 we had David Wicks beating the living crap out of Derek....this time around he just allowed himself to be bullied by him. I mean, WTF.
Janine, Andy, Den, Johnny all nutters and all had a match in Pat. Derek is nothing compared to them.

They should have eased him in slowly rather than making him into a bigshot and when that fell flat on it's face making him into a loving family man.
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Old 10-09-2012, 21:07
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Janine, Andy, Den, Johnny all nutters and all had a match in Pat. Derek is nothing compared to them.

They should have eased him in slowly rather than making him into a bigshot and when that fell flat on it's face making him into a loving family man.
Agreed, Scrabbler.
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Old 10-09-2012, 21:12
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Everytime his on screen i hate him even more.
RnR is such a shit club.
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Old 10-09-2012, 21:23
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I can't stand him.
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Old 10-09-2012, 21:25
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Everytime his on screen i hate him even more.
RnR is such a shit club.
Considering they let Derek in, I hate it even more

I miss the good old days of E20 - why did Steve have to die?
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:11
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Not saying we are. But the way the OP posted, it was like Derek's been like this all the time. He hasn't. He HAS been the 'ardman but everyone winged about it.
people whinged because of who the actor playing nhim, he doesnt look hard so its not belivable, when he was in ee in 1996 he was simply a racist thug and now suddenly hes some hardnut, how did david wicks beat him up in 1996 but when he returned he was suddenly scared again. people just dont like inconsistentcy with characters. phil mitchel has always been phil mitches same with ian beale, people like consistency.
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:13
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Yes, exactly, the Pat who stood up to the murderous gangster Johnny Allen trembling at the sight of "no-rep" Derek Branning? Pathetic.

Of course, in 1996 we had David Wicks beating the living crap out of Derek....this time around he just allowed himself to be bullied by him. I mean, WTF.
thank you i so cant stand inconsistancy. writors need to realise there are people who have watched for years and do remember.
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:16
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lets look at it this way he has bullies kids and very weak men like mr moon and mr beale.
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:53
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I've nothing meaningful to add to the discussion - but I just wanted to say I LOVE the thread title.
*high fives* Yup, it's pretty epic!
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:18
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Rmember when Phil and Jack were fighting when Derek first came into it, he said "You take on my brothers.........You take on me!" and he really looked intimidating.
Jack maybe but Max is not hard at all he just has a temper, Derek has been put in his place already when Phil put him on the deck in the Vic and I bet then if Max or Jack were there they would just stand and do nothing, but since then he's not done anything.

I do like Jamie Foreman, but he just plays a wannabe gangster who has no contacts what so ever, oh he now has antiques shop awesome.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:25
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Derek 'gangster empire' consisted of Alfie and Billy, he bullies teenagers and weak people that cant fight back, so yeah his a pussy. Derrek is not scary, most of the people he bullied 'Anthony, Tyler etc' would have said 'f*** off' to him then punched him.
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