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Old 10-09-2012, 22:16
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I don't to some extent. He chose to stay with Kat and told her to sleep around


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Old 10-09-2012, 22:21
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I use to, but not anymore. He should have left Kat after he found out Tommy wasn't his son as a result of an affair with Michael (when he and Kat first returned to the Square). He definitely should have left Kat after she shagged DC Mickey Webb (from The Bill) in the alleyway. So, it's his own fault really. Alfie seems to enjoy being a doormat and emotional punchbag, so I say leave him to it.
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:23
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I do but its the taking me back which irritates me and I will probably lose all sympathy if he forgives Katcrap again
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:30
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Alfie just loves being one of the boys and the host with the most. He made it clear that he doesn't mind her having affairs and is indifferent to her comings and goings.
I'd still say that Kat is the one in the wrong here, but they're both responsible for the breakdown of the marriage in their own way.
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:30
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Yes because he obviously adores Kat and she is disregarding his feelings and their marriage by cheating on him.
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:31
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I agree with T.K. and IanMandy...I hate the fact that he's told her to go and shag anyone she wanted and is probably going to forgive her again, but at the same time that does not mean that Kat should shag anyone, and regardless of being a doormat Alfie doesn't deserve to be cheated on for the hundredth time.

As it stands, I don't know, I'll make up my mind when this storyline is done. SHOULD he take her back, I'll never pity the plonker again.
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:31
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I use to, but not anymore. He should have left Kat after he found out Tommy wasn't his son as a result of an affair with Michael (when he and Kat first returned to the Square). He definitely should have left Kat after she shagged DC Mickey Webb from (from The Bill) in the alleyway. So, it's his own fault really. Alfie seems to enjoy being a doormat and emotional punchbag, so I say leave him to it.
I agree, i use to feel sorry for him but after he told her to shag whoever she wants i dont really have sympathy for him.
Your right Alfie loves being a doormat (just need to look at the spoilers for next week) and his also very irritating with his crap cheesy jokes and trying to please everyone.
I dislike both Kat and Alfie, but when this awful SL ends i want Alfie to finds his balls and chuck Kat out and for both of them to leave.
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:31
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I stopped feeling sorry for him when he spoke to Kat like a POS last year when she found out she was pregnant. After he accused her of carrying another man's child, when it was his, it's no surprise she went and had it off with Mickey Webb.

Alfie was told he had reduced fertility chances. That doesn't mean he can't get Kat pregnant, doctors never say there's no chance of fertility unless a procedure is done that makes it impossible eg. hysterectomy, vasectomy etc, no doctor would risk getting sued if there was a small chance and they claimed otherwise. Alfie's behaviour was ignorant and nasty. You should never speak to your wife the way he did whether she has a reputation or not, if you stand by someone after they have made mistakes, you give it your all, otherwise what's the point?
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:31
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Not at all he has taken her back too many times, why should she stop when he basically encourages her to do it!
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:33
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He's just so annoying. Even when he kisses her he is OTT and making that noise. He is so aggravating. I feel sorry for the situation, not him though.

Tommy is the one she will be hurting....
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:35
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I stopped feeling sorry for him when he spoke to Kat like a POS last year when she found out she was pregnant. After he accused her of carrying another man's child, when it was his, it's no surprise she went and had it off with Mickey Webb.

Alfie was told he had reduced fertility chances. That doesn't mean he can't get Kat pregnant, doctors never say there's [i]no[/] chance of fertility unless a procedure is done that makes it impossible eg. hysterectomy, vasectomy etc, no doctor would risk getting sued if there was a small chance and they claimed otherwise. Alfie's behaviour was ignorant and nasty. You should never speak to your wife the way he did whether she has a reputation or not, if you stand by someone after they have made mistakes, you give it your all, otherwise what's the point?
That's actually a very good point....
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:36
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That's actually a very good point....
His "I know what it's like being with Kat Slater" if I was her I would've told him to go and do one. If it's so bad he should leave nobody is forcing him to stay with her.
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:36
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No, he is a doormat...
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:37
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Poor Alfie. yes he loves her and wants to make her happy- but really? Tell your wife she can sleep around?!

I tell you, I have no idea what the writers were on they had Alfie say that- probably the same 'let's pretend our viewers are idiots' drug they used when they had Darren shag Hev
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:38
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Poor Alfie. yes he loves her and wants to make her happy- but really? Tell your wife she can sleep around?!

I tell you, I have no idea what the writers were on they had Alfie say that- probably the same 'let's pretend our viewers are idiots' drug they used when they had Darren shag Hev
He should've been telling her to seek counselling for the complexes she has around sex, rather than inviting her to continue cheating on him. He will no doubt make this all about him when the truth comes out when anyone can see Kat is damaged and doesn't enjoy the cheating.
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:39
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His "I know what it's like being with Kat Slater" if I was her I would've told him to go and do one. If it's so bad he should leave nobody is forcing him to stay with her.
He should have left her long before talking to her like that, TBH. I'm not liking either of them at the moment, but, because of Kat once again cheating I'm hating her more. Nevertheless, I'd like them to split up.
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:41
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I agree, i use to feel sorry for him but after he told her to shag whoever she wants i dont really have sympathy for him.
Your right Alfie loves being a doormat (just need to look at the spoilers for next week) and his also very irritating with his crap cheesy jokes and trying to please everyone.
I dislike both Kat and Alfie, but when this awful SL ends i want Alfie to finds his balls and chuck Kat out and for both of them to leave.
Nicely said, Priscila. I doubt Alfie will have the balls to throw Kat out though. Even if he does, Alfie will be the one to grovel and beg her to come back after a few weeks instead of the other way round!
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:44
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He should've been telling her to seek counselling for the complexes she has around sex, rather than inviting her to continue cheating on him. He will no doubt make this all about him when the truth comes out when anyone can see Kat is damaged and doesn't enjoy the cheating.
She thought she was getting counselling. The first time he told her the counsellor hadn't turned up and the second time he got a friend to pretend they were a counsellor and tell her that everything was fine.
For some reason he denied her help when she needed it, and to this day she doesn't know.
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:45
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I agree with T.K. and IanMandy...I hate the fact that he's told her to go and shag anyone she wanted and is probably going to forgive her again, but at the same time that does not mean that Kat should shag anyone, and regardless of being a doormat Alfie doesn't deserve to be cheated on for the hundredth time.

As it stands, I don't know, I'll make up my mind when this storyline is done. SHOULD he take her back, I'll never pity the plonker again.
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Old 10-09-2012, 23:00
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I put don't care cos he just really is such a mug. He should get rid FFS
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Old 10-09-2012, 23:28
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I stopped feeling sorry for him when he spoke to Kat like a POS last year when she found out she was pregnant. After he accused her of carrying another man's child, when it was his, it's no surprise she went and had it off with Mickey Webb.

Alfie was told he had reduced fertility chances. That doesn't mean he can't get Kat pregnant, doctors never say there's no chance of fertility unless a procedure is done that makes it impossible eg. hysterectomy, vasectomy etc, no doctor would risk getting sued if there was a small chance and they claimed otherwise. Alfie's behaviour was ignorant and nasty. You should never speak to your wife the way he did whether she has a reputation or not, if you stand by someone after they have made mistakes, you give it your all, otherwise what's the point?
I don't blame Alfie for accusing Kat of carrying another man's child. She cheated on him with Michael and had Tommy, not too long ago so I don't think his anxieties regarding that as unreasonable. And I can't buy the argument that Alfie having insecurities regarding Kat's ability to be faithful to him makes Kat's affair understandable or even unsurprising; and equally it can be turned around on Kat that if you are supposed to be standing by someone and giving it you're all you shouldn't be cheating on someone repeatedly.

Alfie's the same man who is also looking after Kat's child like his own, that she had with his own cousin - that's something many men wouldn't do. Alfie practically runs that entire business by himself and looks after Tommy while Kat hangs out with Kim, clubs, has an affair and looks after Jean when she feels like it. Kat's 'work' is limited to flirting with the odd punter. That's about it. I'd say that [Alfie] is someone giving their marriage their all; the fact Kat constantly throws it in his face and cries wolf everytime she's confronted with her actions shows she's the one not giving their marriage her all..

Kat may not enjoy cheating, but the woman has a semblence of self-control and can get help if she wants it. Ian Beale at his lowest last week decided to be a man and get help for his depression; Kat chooses not to get 'help' instead she shags blokes in extra-matrial affairs, because she thinks she can not because of some deep-deated pyschological issue of which we should all shed a tear for her. Kat has a complete inability to accept responsibility for her actions, and furthermore not just get her act together for herself but her son too. Kat has no sense of boundaries, which drives her inhibitions regarding affairs - not helped by Alfie himself of course. Kat's non-enjoyment of her affairs certainly doesn't prevent her from doing it anyway as tonight showed.
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Old 10-09-2012, 23:34
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I don't blame Alfie for accusing Kat of carrying another man's child. She cheated on him with Michael and had Tommy, not too long ago so I don't think his anxieties regarding that as unreasonable. And I can't buy the argument that Alfie having insecurities regarding Kat's ability to be faithful to him makes Kat's affair understandable or even unsurprising; and equally it can be turned around on Kat that if you are supposed to be standing by someone and giving it you're all you shouldn't be cheating on someone repeatedly.

Alfie's the same man who is also looking after Kat's child like his own, that she had with his own cousin - that's something many men wouldn't do. Alfie practically runs that entire business by himself and looks after Tommy while Kat hangs out with Kim, clubs, has an affair and looks after Jean when she feels like it. Kat's 'work' is limited to flirting with the odd punter. That's about it. I'd say that [Alfie] is someone giving their marriage their all; the fact Kat constantly throws it in his face and cries wolf everytime she's confronted with her actions shows she's the one not giving their marriage her all..

Kat may not enjoy cheating, but the woman has a semblence of self-control and can get help if she wants it. Ian Beale at his lowest last week decided to be a man and get help for his depression; Kat chooses not to get 'help' instead she shags blokes in extra-matrial affairs, because she thinks she can not because of some deep-deated pyschological issue of which we should all shed a tear for her. Kat has a complete inability to accept responsibility for her actions, and furthermore not just get her act together for herself but her son too. Kat has no sense of boundaries, which drives her inhibitions regarding affairs - not helped by Alfie himself of course. Kat's non-enjoyment of her affairs certainly doesn't prevent her from doing it anyway as tonight showed.
This - Especially the first paragraph. I don't blame Alfie for questioning Kat over the parternity of the child she miscarried given her past behaviour AND that she got pregnant by his cousin of all people. That coupled with his low fertility, who in gods name wouldn't have doubts?
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Old 10-09-2012, 23:36
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The Dennis Rickman scholars have done it again and hit it on the nail . Well said, Katrina K and PrincessPerfect.
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Old 10-09-2012, 23:42
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This - Especially the first paragraph. I don't blame Alfie for questioning Kat over the parternity of Tommy given her past behaviour AND that she got pregnant by his cousin of all people. That coupled with his low fertility, who in gods name wouldn't have doubts?
It's not the fact he had doubts that bothered me, what bothers me is that he voiced those doubts to Kat, which was totally unreasonable behaviour. I mean for once she was in the right!

If we had seen Alfie talking to another character about it then it would've been understandable to me but he crossed the line. Also it's not like he sat Kat down and had a reasonable conversation about it, he insulted her, therein lies the difference. Yes I know she doesn't always speak to Alfie appropriately herself but that doesn't mean we should cheer him on when he stoops to her level.

And tbh it's debatable how much her past behaviour comes into it. Alfie forgave Kat for going with Michael and the Andy/Roger stuff from 2004 was ancient history by 2011, the way some go on you would think Kat was constantly sleeping around. I don't get all those posts about how she should be checked for STIs etc, she has not had that many sexual partners in recent years.
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Old 10-09-2012, 23:47
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This - Especially the first paragraph. I don't blame Alfie for questioning Kat over the parternity of the child she miscarried given her past behaviour AND that she got pregnant by his cousin of all people. That coupled with his low fertility, who in gods name wouldn't have doubts?
low fertility = nail on head! Alfie was never told that he was infertile, he should at the very least have gone to the doctors before throwing accusations around.
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