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Old 10-09-2012, 22:28
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He's a fifty year old man who bounces around like an overgrown schoolboy, he isn't funny, makes me cringe in every scene and is a doormat when it comes to Kat.

Obviously what Kat is doing is wrong but I just want the both of them to go, such god awful characters.
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:35
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if he hooks up with Roxy like he should he'd be happy caring and less chance of hating him
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:37
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i dont despise him, but i agree with your description - the happy chappy routine is so tiresome :yawn:
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:37
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100% agree
Alfie is soo irritating, his crap cheesy jokes and being a First class doormat. I agree Kat and Alfie are awful characters and i would love it if they left forever.
Also i dont like them as landlady/landlord of the Vic.
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:38
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him & Kat together seem to bring the worst out in each other now
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:41
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Kat is the more iconic character of the two.

I hate the fact the writers seem determined to trash Kat's character whilst at the same time building Alfie up to be some kind of saint...lest we forget he was almost sleeping with Kat's sister at one point. I refuse to be manipulated by the terrible writing.

I wouldn't write either of them out but both characters need a parting of their ways and some better development.
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:43
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Kat's always been like this so its not trashing her character and Alfie only got with Mo after Kat ran away
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:51
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Kat's always been like this so its not trashing her character and Alfie only got with Mo after Kat ran away
Kat didn't run away, Alfie threw her out and told her to sort herself out. It's a bit weird to chase after your wife's sister even if you're not together anymore with your wife. People on here slate Tanya for getting together with Jack even after she had broken up with Max because they were still married. Well this is no different.

And at the time the Alfie/Mo thing began she was still with Billy, Alfie's friend, another reason she should've been off-limits to him.

Alfie knew that Kat wanted him back in 2005 yet was happy to keep stringing her along - he then got back together with Kat and for a time was seeing both of them. There was an episode where he was about to sleep with Mo when Kat came round and interrupted them, five minutes later he was snogging the face off Kat. Another episode saw him double-dating the sisters and running between two dinners - a rip off of Mrs Doubtfire. Alfie is not the saint people make him out to be.

And I don't mean the sleeping around is trashing Kat's character, although I do think an affair rather than a one night stand takes it to the next level, but I think the way she speaks to Alfie while he acts like the second coming is trashing her character.
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:56
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if he hooks up with Roxy like he should he'd be happy caring and less chance of hating him
If he was even half as attentive to Kat as he was to Roxy I doubt she'd be straying.
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:57
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If he was even half as attentive to Kat as he was to Roxy I doubt she'd be straying.
Kat would probably accuse him of smothering her
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:58
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If he was even half as attentive to Kat as he was to Roxy I doubt she'd be straying.
He's being quite attentive now, but regardless of the circumstances I can't abide cheating.

And yes, Alfie chasing after Little Mo was horrible too.
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Old 10-09-2012, 22:59
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Alfie and Kat had seperated hadn't they?

While away, she was probably with 100 guys
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Old 10-09-2012, 23:01
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Alfie and Kat had seperated hadn't they?

While away, she was probably with 100 guys
TBH, Kat c. 2005 was a very different character to the Kat we have on-screen now.
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Old 10-09-2012, 23:02
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she still slept around
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Old 10-09-2012, 23:03
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i make no secret of never liking alfie, i think he drags kat down,

but its the writers not shanes fault, there just god awful, instead of story arcs and building relationships i honestly think these people sit around playing the what can we almost get away with next game,
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Old 10-09-2012, 23:04
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Alfie and Kat had seperated hadn't they?

While away, she was probably with 100 guys
She was in a female prison so I doubt that.

Separated or not it's not the norm to move in on the immediate family. And Alfie did string both of them along in 2005, whilst he was kissing Mo and saying he wanted her, he was pandering to Kat and refusing to rule out a reconciliation there. Then he eventually got back together with Kat without calling things off with Mo first.
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Old 10-09-2012, 23:09
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If he was even half as attentive to Kat as he was to Roxy I doubt she'd be straying.
Alfie worships the ground Kat walks on! She walks around foul faced, bad tempered and Alfie is nothing but a loving husband to her.

I don't think Alfie's feelings/attraction to Roxy are an excuse for Kat straying, as we saw last year she slept with Mark even before Roxy was in the picture.

I agree about Alfie and Mo though. He's not a saint and I remember how he played both sisters. Fortunately for the character, he's managed to redeem himself since, where as Kat has gone completly backwards by being unfaithful multiple times.
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Old 10-09-2012, 23:15
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Agreed. I find Alfie unbearable now during his second stint on the show. I hope the producers separate Kat and Alfie permanently. He's definitely dragging her down. I'd like to see Kat away from Alfie and the Vic.
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Old 10-09-2012, 23:19
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Can't stand Alfie. He acts thick, having his head in the clouds, pretending everything is ok, when he knows full well his relationship isn't. It's one thing being a loving husband, but to be too complaisant towards his wife is ridiculous.
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Old 10-09-2012, 23:31
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Alfie worships the ground Kat walks on! She walks around foul faced, bad tempered and Alfie is nothing but a loving husband to her.

I don't think Alfie's feelings/attraction to Roxy are an excuse for Kat straying, as we saw last year she slept with Mark even before Roxy was in the picture.

I agree about Alfie and Mo though. He's not a saint and I remember how he played both sisters. Fortunately for the character, he's managed to redeem himself since, where as Kat has gone completly backwards by being unfaithful multiple times.
He's still no saint - hadn't he just come out of prison for fraud in 2010? Not for the first time either.

Then there's the fraud he committed in 2002 (pretending to be Chris Wright to take over the pub) which he was never done for.

It's always bugged me how he and Kat are joint licensees of the pub when Alfie's criminal record would deem this impossible. Kat could apply on her own, all she did was hit a copper, and by 2010 it would've been an "historic conviction" but Alfie had literally just come out of prison.
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Old 10-09-2012, 23:36
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He's still no saint - hadn't he just come out of prison for fraud in 2010? Not for the first time either.

Then there's the fraud he committed in 2002 (pretending to be Chris Wright to take over the pub) which he was never done for.

It's always bugged me how he and Kat are joint licensees of the pub when Alfie's criminal record would deem this impossible. Kat could apply on her own, all she did was hit a copper, and by 2010 it would've been an "historic conviction" but Alfie had literally just come out of prison.
I never said he was. I said he wasn't a saint. TBH, no character in Albert Square is.

However in spite of his flaws, he can do a hell of a lot better than his awful wife.
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Old 10-09-2012, 23:39
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I never said he was. I said he wasn't a saint. TBH, no character in Albert Square is.

However in spite of his flaws, he can do a hell of a lot better than his awful wife.
Absolutely, and even if he HAD gone to prison for whatever reasons (in 2002 he'd just served a 3 year sentence, having taken the blame for Jake & Danny so he didn't actually do anything wrong; he did lie about being Chris Wright though) it doesn't justify Kat's cheating or general treatment of him as a doormat.
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Old 10-09-2012, 23:44
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Kat didn't run away, Alfie threw her out and told her to sort herself out. It's a bit weird to chase after your wife's sister even if you're not together anymore with your wife. People on here slate Tanya for getting together with Jack even after she had broken up with Max because they were still married. Well this is no different.

And at the time the Alfie/Mo thing began she was still with Billy, Alfie's friend, another reason she should've been off-limits to him.

Alfie knew that Kat wanted him back in 2005 yet was happy to keep stringing her along - he then got back together with Kat and for a time was seeing both of them. There was an episode where he was about to sleep with Mo when Kat came round and interrupted them, five minutes later he was snogging the face off Kat. Another episode saw him double-dating the sisters and running between two dinners - a rip off of Mrs Doubtfire. Alfie is not the saint people make him out to be.

And I don't mean the sleeping around is trashing Kat's character, although I do think an affair rather than a one night stand takes it to the next level, but I think the way she speaks to Alfie while he acts like the second coming is trashing her character.
THANK YOU! ...Someone who speaks a glimmer of sense!!

Tanya does get a lot of sh*t on here thats for sure and Alfie is always made out as perfect... Kat is bad now but Alfie has done exactly what Kat has done. Glad someone agrees with me
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Old 10-09-2012, 23:59
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Kat has done exactly what Alfie has done?

When Alfie cheats on Kat five times, and impregnates another woman with his child then I'll see that. Insofar, while Alfie is no saint and is a flawed character like many on the square his plus points counter his minuses. And I believe when Alfie 'threw her out' is when Kat had cheated on him. It's not exactly unreasonable to throw someone out after they've been unfaithful. Tanya Branning/Cross/Jessop did the exact same to Max in 2007.

Certainly on the point of Tanya, Tanya gets flack because she has hardly any positives to her character whereas Alfie does. While Alfie has convictions for fraud (one of them he was covering for Danny and Jake) Tanya tried to kill her own husband and slept with a guy (Sean) to get him onside so that he could help her do the deed while she fled and left him to take the wrap from what would have be premediated murder. Tanya also covered-up attempted murder on her daughter's part. My main bug on her relationship with Jack wasn't that he was Max's brother - but that Tanya had children and really should have been supporting them whilst they came to terms with what had just happened to their family environment.

Instead, all she could think about was her own sexual (and monetary) desires and in the process didn't think about how her children would feel with her implanting a man so suddenly in their lives as head of the Branning household. Like with her cancer, Tanya thought nothing of putting such a burden on Lauren and treated her daughters terribly in that saga, only settling when she had a 'man' in her life through Max. The support of her daughters wasn't enough for her. Tanya gets flack, in essence because for all intents any purposes she's a selfish, hyprocritical individual who does things in one mind and judges others for doing the same or even less. Alfie, for all intents and purposes is largely a giving individual and certainly hasn't judged others for doing the same as him, or less.
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Old 11-09-2012, 00:06
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Kat didn't run away, Alfie threw her out and told her to sort herself out. It's a bit weird to chase after your wife's sister even if you're not together anymore with your wife. People on here slate Tanya for getting together with Jack even after she had broken up with Max because they were still married. Well this is no different.

And at the time the Alfie/Mo thing began she was still with Billy, Alfie's friend, another reason she should've been off-limits to him.

Alfie knew that Kat wanted him back in 2005 yet was happy to keep stringing her along - he then got back together with Kat and for a time was seeing both of them. There was an episode where he was about to sleep with Mo when Kat came round and interrupted them, five minutes later he was snogging the face off Kat. Another episode saw him double-dating the sisters and running between two dinners - a rip off of Mrs Doubtfire. Alfie is not the saint people make him out to be.

And I don't mean the sleeping around is trashing Kat's character, although I do think an affair rather than a one night stand takes it to the next level, but I think the way she speaks to Alfie while he acts like the second coming is trashing her character.
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