I dont like this roundabout of litigation. But if it makes Apple stop and think about what they have done then I am for that.

Ha ha, at this pace they end up suing the snake from the Garden of Eden for not giving them 30% of _that_ apple This may seem funny and absurd, but it's bullying. They have money behind them that not everybody can match. So it's easier to let them have their way. That's why I think it's important that firms like HTC strike back.

Yeah – it’s a bit like in the satellite forum when people will write the company Sky as $ky instead.

My principles are simple really:

When crApple (now is that a TM or an ®?) sue another company that is BAD.

When a company sues crApple TM & ® (just to be sure I don't get sued) that is GOOD.

So basically you are just against Apple for some reason?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...over-logo.html

Oh hell no!!

Here is the one i speak of:-

http://www.flickr.com/photos/a-nicholson/6158323433/

Apple really don't think much of their customers if they believe they can't tell the difference between a German coffee shop and an iPhone

The idea that anyone ever bought a Samsung phone because they believed it was an iPhone was laughable enough but that really is pathetic.

Or that they mistakenly bought a Samsung Tablet thinking it was an ipad was absolutely hysterical!

Karma's a bitch innit.

I think the world (of mobile technology) would be a better place if nobody was suing anyone else ... but.....

Apple are suing pretty much everybody. Even after being awarded a billion dollars (yes a BILLION dollars) they are still looking to take things further and pretty much ban all of samsungs phone models in the US.

Regardless of whether you are pro or anti Apple this cant be seen as a good thing surely ?

What we see now is a bit of the fight-back, with companys pushing back.

As its been stated I doubt that HTC will win this one but I think these are a bit of a 'warning shot across the bows'.

Apple didnt invent the smartphone.
Not all of Samsungs products look like an iphone to even the most ardent apple fan.
Why should Apple be able to bully and monopolise the market ?

Even Apple fans must see that Apple are taking things too far ?

If Apple prevent any competition from existing then everyone who wanted to have a smartphone would need to buy Apple !!!

That would leave current Apple owners with nobody to look down their noses at or feel superior over

.... and current non-Apple owners nobody to point and laugh at

Just a dislike for one company – it used to be MS that got all the stick but people have moved on to Apple now.

No use complaining Apple use legal means against companies if you are happy for other companies to do the same.

Im not sure that particularly bears true in all cases ......

situations and reasons can differ.

I’m just basing my thought on what is on this post – everyone is generally happy that a company is going after Apple…after complaining for weeks that Apple should not be going after companies…seems pretty clear to me that people seem to have one rule for Apple and one rule for a company who is being see as a champion of justice against Apple.

All a load of rubbish because any big company would take another to court if it believed the company infringed its patents. And that fact that Apple in the US won against Samsung shows that they were correct in taking them to court.

Apple are suing companies for things that apple themselves have half inched from people constantly. The whole apple range is just a load of nicked items.

Companies like Samsung and HTC who genuinely innovate and invent new technologies are having them pinched from Apple and are not happy about it. They actually have a point too this. Apple do not.

So yes, im glad to see Apple get hauled through the courts for this.

I await the answers back relating to FRAND and how apple are apparently entitled to these technologies they never once contributed to...

My point is that i think that there are two different approaches being taken.

IMHO the Apple approach seems like a destructive one - lets prevent competition.

The other companies, again in my opinion, seem to be reactive.

Taking an extreme view (and one started by Jobs when he stated he wanted to go 'Thermonuclear on Android') its like (and I apologise to my European friends for the choice of analogy) Germany using military strength to invade Poland and then someone say that Britain was 'just as bad' using military strength to fight back. Extreme analogy I know but it was Apple who first likened the situation to a 'corporate war'.

I dont think anyone can claim that Apple dont appear to be the major protagonists in all of this legal action .....

I would wager that if Apple hadnt started trying to ban products then this latest wave of legal action would never have been considered.

Just my tuppence and Im sure many will disagree.

No shades of grey with you is there all black and white.

If Apple have ‘half-inched’ all their stuff from other companies then why are all of these companies not taking Apple to court over them?

I don’t know so much about HTC but what new technologies have Samsung invented? They do build a lot of tech for other companies but not aware of them being known for their innovation.

What is FRAND?

You cant really debate with people on this forum as if you don't happen to carry a burning effigy of steve jobs and a vehmont hatred for the apple logo, you are in some way a fan of Apple or an Apple fanboi(is it?).

It all a bit odd.

I wonder who has the most litigation against them from other phone manifacturers.

No one should be going after anyone. In an ideal world every company would be allowed to do everything. Then it comes down to who can do it better and gives customers more choice without missing out on anything.

There are always shades of grey – just not much on this post – Apple = Evil – Samsung/HTC etc = Good

So you think it would be ok for a company to develop something and then for everyone else to copy it? How would that be good?

You don't get to the forefront of the global electronics market by merely building other peoples stuff. The fact that they do make for other people is indicative of Samsung's far reaching technological prowess. Their innovative televisions for example has revolutionised the home cinema market.

Your logic around that point intrigues me. Are you suggesting the Apple (and any other company wishing to produce 3G / 4G devices) should not be allowed to use them, giving owners of these patens a complete monopoly on the mobile device market?