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America's VOTE is NOW VOTE IAN!
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RenThraysk
16-09-2012
Ian just had a few crushes through the game, and it was Britney that took advantage of it.

When something big has gone down in the house, Ian has been by in large in the dark, and a passenger.

Frank was always going sooner than later, so him bouncing Britney out of there was neither here nor there, for his game. If it wasn't Dan masterminding Frank's exit, it would have been Britney.
MariaLeFrink2
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by molly noggin:
“Why do you like Frank so much? Just wondering.”

I watched the pre-season interviwes of all the houseguests and was kind of drawn to him for whatever reason.

Watching the feeds I've continously rooted for Ian and Frank, although I would facepalm my computer desk whenever Frank did/said something stupid. ...And that was quite often.

He did come with a bruised ego which I found only got worse the more and more he had to fight. I'm not saying everyone has to love him and feel sorry for him because they don't... but I don't know, I just found his naive stupidity quite endearing for some reason.
InMyArms
16-09-2012
Even though i've already voted for Janelle I think i've changed my mind on this, i'm now pro Ian for it. Purely because Janelle has already won this and a load of other stuff from the show.. for Ian it would mean so much more to him. I'm still hoping he makes final two and therefore becomes ineligible to win it though Also I really didn't like Boogie and Ian took care of that one
molly noggin
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by RenThraysk:
“Frank was always going sooner than later, so him bouncing Britney out of there was neither here nor there, for his game. If it wasn't Dan masterminding Frank's exit, it would have been Britney.”

This is true. However, he knew that Dan was a much bigger and player than Britney so not removing him when he had the chance was one of the most stupid moves made by anyone probably in BB history.
molly noggin
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by chloedancer:
“Ian has behaved like a rat in this comp.That along with his cockyness when he had the numbers and his being carried by Dan in the latter stages makes him undeserving imo!”

Sorry but this is absolute nonsense from start to finish.
Vesna
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by mindset:
“I wouldn't get your hopes up if I were you. Some Frank fans around here still think their hero was wise to evict Britney and keep Dan..... ”

Thankfully it's the american viewers who will decide.
Originally Posted by InMyArms:
“Even though i've already voted for Janelle I think i've changed my mind on this, i'm now pro Ian for it. Purely because Janelle has already won this and a load of other stuff from the show.. for Ian it would mean so much more to him. I'm still hoping he makes final two and therefore becomes ineligible to win it though Also I really didn't like Boogie and Ian took care of that one ”

All the vets got a guaranteed payday, rumor is janelle got the most. Boogie would have been first on my list to evict, he is a nasty man. Loved Ian getting him out.

Manipulating a goober like frank was easy.
mindset
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by RenThraysk:
“Frank was always going sooner than later, so him bouncing Britney out of there was neither here nor there, for his game. If it wasn't Dan masterminding Frank's exit, it would have been Britney.”

Neither here nor there?

Frank needed to win the OTEV Veto to survive. He finished 2nd in that competition to Dan, the player he should have evicted. Keeping Britney, who would have had no chance whatever in that competition, would have given Frank at least 1 more week. Then who knows?

Frank's decision to keep Dan and evict Britney was very far from neither here nor there, it ended his game unnecessarily that week.
RenThraysk
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by mindset:
“Neither here nor there?

Frank needed to win the OTEV Veto to survive. He finished 2nd in that competition to Dan, the player he should have evicted. Keeping Britney, who would have had no chance whatever in that competition, would have given Frank at least 1 more week. Then who knows?

Frank's decision to keep Dan and evict Britney was very far from neither here nor there, it ended his game unnecessarily that week.”

Frank's game was pretty much over when Boogie got evicted, it was then a matter of when. He was an island to himself.
Britney was the most vocal in her dislike of Frank and wanting to get him out. And Dan exploited it.
Linus2
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by mindset:
“ He finished 2nd in that competition to Dan, the player he should have evicted. Keeping Britney, who would have had no chance whatever in that competition, would have given Frank at least 1 more week. Then who knows?
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You dont know that, with Brit playing it would have been a completely different comp. And otev is not about skills but mostly about luck. So that theory makes no sense.
mindset
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by Linus2:
“You dont know that, with Brit playing it would have been a completely different comp. And otev is not about skills but mostly about luck. So that theory makes no sense.”

What I do know for a fact is that if Frank had evicted Dan he wouldn't have been playing in the OTEV Veto at all, so could not have beaten Frank into 2nd place.

OTEV has an element of luck for sure, finding the correct object, but moreover it requires speed and stamina. The idea that Britney represented a bigger threat to Frank in that regard, than Dan, is simply laughable.
mindset
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by RenThraysk:
“Frank's game was pretty much over when Boogie got evicted, it was then a matter of when. He was an island to himself.
Britney was the most vocal in her dislike of Frank and wanting to get him out. And Dan exploited it.”

It's true that without a fundamental change in the disposition of the other players, Frank was living on borrowed time. But as I implied, a week is a long time in BB.

Ian, not Britney was the most vocal about disliking and wanting to evict Frank. Dan persuaded Frank to target Britney because she was the lynchpin, the social glue, holding the QP together. And for Dan, her absence would create a convenient vacancy, following his miraculous resurrection.....
Linus2
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by mindset:
“ Dan persuaded Frank to target Britney because she was the lynchpin, the social glue, holding the QP together. And for Dan, her absence would create a convenient vacancy, following his miraculous resurrection.....”

Dan didnt have to persuade Frank coz he said the morning BEFORE the funeral to the feeders that he wants Ian and Brit out asap.

Quote:
“What I do know for a fact is that if Frank had evicted Dan he wouldn't have been playing in the OTEV Veto at all, so could not have beaten Frank into 2nd place.

OTEV has an element of luck for sure, finding the correct object, but moreover it requires speed and stamina. The idea that Britney represented a bigger threat to Frank in that regard, than Dan, is simply laughable.”

yeah and then maybe Ian or Dani would have won. To replace one player and expect the same outcome in a game ... thats just not how this things work.
RenThraysk
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by mindset:
“It's true that without a fundamental change in the disposition of the other players, Frank was living on borrowed time. But as I implied, a week is a long time in BB.

Ian, not Britney was the most vocal about disliking and wanting to evict Frank. Dan persuaded Frank to target Britney because she was the lynchpin, the social glue, holding the QP together. And for Dan, her absence would create a convenient vacancy, following his miraculous resurrection.....”

No one was paying Ian much attention though, unless they wanted him to snoop.

Whereas Britney had Shane & Danielle listening.
mindset
17-09-2012
Originally Posted by Linus2:
“yeah and then maybe Ian or Dani would have won. To replace one player and expect the same outcome in a game ... thats just not how this things work.”

The bottom line is, would you rather compete for your life against either Dan, or Britney? Frank made the wrong choice and lost. Deservedly so.

You talk of replacing one player not making any difference to the outcome? If your local football team was due to play Barcelona, don't you think they would have a better chance if Messi wasn't playing? Or Real Madrid without Ronaldo?

Whatever. Ian saw Frank out, he got his "12 point buck". The better player triumphed and that's as it should be....

Congratulations Ian!
Vesna
17-09-2012
Originally Posted by mindset:
“The bottom line is, would you rather compete for your life against either Dan, or Britney? Frank made the wrong choice and lost. Deservedly so.

You talk of replacing one player not making any difference to the outcome? If your local football team was due to play Barcelona, don't you think they would have a better chance if Messi wasn't playing? Or Real Madrid without Ronaldo?

Whatever. Ian saw Frank out, he got his "12 point buck". The better player triumphed and that's as it should be....

Congratulations Ian! ”

Frank seemed to have no grasp of the social game needed in US BB. He treated others very poorly, raged at them when things didn't go exactly how he wanted. He and Boogie miscalculated Ian's value as an equal and they treated him as a pet that would do whatever they told him to. They got that wrong.
chloedancer
18-09-2012
if ian wins,will they play the quirky music as he gets his cheque?you know the tune that screams "vote ian,he is so loveable and quirky and awkward" every time he walked around the house.
starry
20-09-2012
I thought Ian should have won, maybe even Shane. It was good a veteran didn't win but I do think Frank got a good edit, he was way too paranoid over Willie (and yet the producers wanted to make out he was such a trusting person). Both him and Joe could actually get quite angry in the house and Frank in particular could be quite smarmy and wind people up.
Linus2
20-09-2012
So obviously most ppl see Frank the way i see him ... i am glad about that. He is loud but a nice genuine person whos downfall from the beginning was Boogie as his coach and Jannell gunning for him since day 1. His gameplay was good but not perfect.
Vesna
20-09-2012
Originally Posted by Linus2:
“So obviously most ppl see Frank the way i see him ... i am glad about that. He is loud but a nice genuine person whos downfall from the beginning was Boogie as his coach and Jannell gunning for him since day 1. His gameplay was good but not perfect.”

Not really. If he was a nice person he would have stayed. He was an arrogant egotist. He won AC because our teens are just as shallow as the uk ones. He won cause he's fit and voting here is freeeeee.
Linus2
20-09-2012
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“Not really. If he was a nice person he would have stayed. He was an arrogant egotist. He won AC because our teens are just as shallow as the uk ones. He won cause he's fit and voting here is freeeeee.”

So you are saying nice persons dont get voted out or end on the block? Thats a strange thing to say ... And i am sure the teens all voted for Shane and not Frank.


And of course Frank is a nice person, if you cant see that well thats not my problem.
chloedancer
21-09-2012
well done Frank.at least one good result came out of this BB!!!
starry
22-09-2012
If they haven't already they really should reveal some of the other top placings in this.
Vesna
23-09-2012
Originally Posted by Linus2:
“So you are saying nice persons dont get voted out or end on the block? Thats a strange thing to say ... And i am sure the teens all voted for Shane and not Frank.


And of course Frank is a nice person, if you cant see that well thats not my problem.”

what a strange response. Viewers do not keep or vote out in BBUS. Therefore, my comment has nothing to do with being voted on or off "the block". And it has nothing to do with him outside the house either.

If you can't see that Frank is only nice to people when they are stroking his ego that's not my problem.

If you've never been a teenage American girl then you wouldn't be able to see that Frank oozes hotness, Shane oozes wimpness.
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