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Lady Gaga: Popularity definitely on the wane
Needless to say this post will be attacked by 40,000 Gaga fans insisting she's still as successful as ever but she's playing the 02 in Dublin Saturday night and it still hasn't sold out. Radio are heavily promoting the tickets. I'm really shocked as tickets were like gold dust in The Fame/Monster era.
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She's not playing the o2, she is playing the Aviva Stadium which was a capacity of 50,000.Ireland has a population of a little over 4 million so to get to play the Aviva is a huge achievement in itself.It's normally just for huge sporting events
Just because she is not in the papers every day does not mean she is "on the wane" She is on a worldwide sellout tour and will be back with a number one album in the new year. |
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She's not playing the o2, she is playing the Aviva Stadium which was a capacity of 50,000.Ireland has a population of a little over 4 million so to get to play the Aviva is a huge achievement in itself.It's normally just for huge sporting events
Just because she is not in the papers every day does not mean she is "on the wane" She is on a worldwide sellout tour and will be back with a number one album in the new year. So 2 years later if 1 night at the Aviva gets more than 25000 she is doing better so hardly "on the wane" |
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Let's also not forget that people in Ireland are genuinely skint at the moment. Practically every artist has trouble selling out their venues now.
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People have been saying this since Just Dance. It's getting boring now.
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People have been saying this since Just Dance. It's getting boring now.
Lady Gaga went straight to a high level of fame overnight. That is why once her first major backlash comes it will be nasty. The fall from grace from such a great height always is. |
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People have been saying this since Just Dance. It's getting boring now.
When Just Dance was out, everybody was saying she's revolutionized pop music, that everybody was copying her, that she's the only good thing to happen in 35 years, blah blah blah. I only started to hear stuff about Lady Gaga "fading" in 2011. Anybody who said anything remotely negative about Lady Gaga in 2009 or 2010 was promptly crucified (metaphorically). Her peak in popularity was around March/April 2009. That was the time where she was EVERYWHERE (you'd turn on the radio on the way to work, and the presenters on every single station would be talking about the outfit she wore the previous day, and whether she was a hermaphrodite or not). Even as early as late 2009, she wasn't as prominent as she was before, but it was only about 18 months after that (I guess when Judas happened), that a lot of people really started suggesting she might be decreasing in popularity. |
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Thats a good post Eric. She had the whole Madonna thing to deal with for Born This Way then the Vengaboys/Aqua sounding Judas came out and alot of people just thought she had disappeared up her own hype.
Its still no where near the backlash that will one day hit her though. She cannot and will not sustain this sort of success. Her success happened too fast for her to build on it. |
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Thats a good post Eric. She had the whole Madonna thing to deal with for Born This Way then the Vengaboys/Aqua sounding Judas came out and alot of people just thought she had disappeared up her own hype.
Its still no where near the backlash that will one day hit her though. She cannot and will not sustain this sort of success. Her success happened too fast for her to build on it. |
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I'm so here for her
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Her success wasn't that fast. In fact it took about a year to really kick off. She debuted in April 2008 in the US. It took 6 months to even chart on the hot 100 at all. She's worked very hard to tour, write and promote her music since the start. We will see with Artpop what happens. Ireland isn't the most important market for her (it is sales but you know...). If she cant sell out her US leg (never gon' happen) then we can say fading. She sold out all her tickets before europe in a heartbeat.
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The Aviva Stadium holds 65,000 people, the O2 Dublin Arena 14,500.
A slight difference OP. |
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I do think her popularity has fallen, but I think a lot of that is actually down to her most loyal fans. They make it uncool to like her now, especially the way they carry on slating every other artist they come across; it's an embarrassment to admit to liking anything she does now incase people put you in the camp of those fans. People don't want to be associated with them and unfortunately for Gaga, this means her most loyal fans will ultimately cause the one thing they are trying to stop: the downfall of Mother Monster.
EDIT: And I'm not slating her at all; I do like some of her music. It's just the whole 'little monsters' thing. It really does put casual fans, such as myself, off her and her work. Take this for example: my Brother is a huge Gaga fan, where as I sit firmly in the Madonna camp. This does not mean I dislike Gaga and her work; I simply like Madonna a lot more, having been brought up with her music. I've been to see her live, I own all the albums, etc. However dare I mention to my Brother about my experience at the MDNA Tour: he instantly tries to turn it into a 'Gaga does it better' row. I then look at Gaga and think: 'do I want people to think of me the way I'm thinking of my Brother right now?' The answer is a plain and simple no. It's a pity because her work, especially prior to BTW, is brilliant, and it's a real waste of an artist that their biggest fans become the reason people don't want to show interest. I guess it can only be hoped that in years to come those who call themselves little monsters tone down their opinions and the way they react to other artists and invite people to like Gaga, rather than pushing them away and trying to force their opinions about how great she is onto others. |
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I do think her popularity has fallen, but I think a lot of that is actually down to her most loyal fans. They make it uncool to like her now, especially the way they carry on slating every other artist they come across; it's an embarrassment to admit to liking anything she does now incase people put you in the camp of those fans. People don't want to be associated with them and unfortunately for Gaga, this means her most loyal fans will ultimately cause the one thing they are trying to stop: the downfall of Mother Monster.
EDIT: And I'm not slating her at all; I do like some of her music. It's just the whole 'little monsters' thing. It really does put casual fans, such as myself, off her and her work. Take this for example: my Brother is a huge Gaga fan, where as I sit firmly in the Madonna camp. This does not mean I dislike Gaga and her work; I simply like Madonna a lot more, having been brought up with her music. I've been to see her live, I own all the albums, etc. However dare I mention to my Brother about my experience at the MDNA Tour: he instantly tries to turn it into a 'Gaga does it better' row. I then look at Gaga and think: 'do I want people to think of me the way I'm thinking of my Brother right now?' The answer is a plain and simple no. |
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It is but mostly because no-one could keep that level of popularity up for that long. I am not a big fan of her but just because she isnt everywhere and being talked about all the time doesn't mean she is fading. In fact it is a good thing to take time away from making music and the spotlight for herself and so she didn't become too overexposed like Rihanna.
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I think there is some truth in this. Its sections of her fanbase which cause the problems for her. It reminds me of the Spice Girls actually. They were so popular in 1997, everyone loved them, but by 1998 it was just NOT COOL to like them and you would be laughed at for being a fan. I see that with Little Monsters in some respect.
And, when I say Madonna above, this could really be any artist who has crossed the path of this section of fans. Switch her name for Katy Perry, or any other popular current artist and you'll end up with exactly the same result. AND, when I use the term most loyal fans, it is because I don't know how else to describe the small segment of the fans who are creating this situation. And to be honest, they are really ruining something that could be wonderful. I actually feel for Gaga, because, as I said, I believe this section of her fan group will ultimately be the ones who destroy her. |
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Oh I know what youtube is like. Certain Gaga fans made Christina Aguilera's life hell in 2010. Every video, every article was filled with vile comments about Christina and her so called bullying and copying of Gaga. Alot of that was even encouraged by Perez Hilton. You cannot tell me Gaga wasn't aware.
Also its not young kids. Alot of Gaga fans appear to be in their 20s and 30s. Her concert last week had very few teenagers from what I heard. That makes it more bizzare. You would think they knew better. |
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She isn't going anywhere. She's currently in the middle of a world tour which is going to visit every continent bar Antarctica, and just finished performing to around 110,000 people in the space of two nights in London. She's also projected to gross around $300,000,000 with this tour (more than The Monster Ball, with way less dates), second only to Madonna who has been in the game for more than 30 years. If this is what it's like to have your popularity waning, count me in any day
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I know her Sunday show at Twickenham stadium wasn't sold out but I'm not sure that was down to her popularity falling. I believe she is still popular but I think Rihanna has become more popular. However, to be playing stadium shows in just 3 years is a massive achievement (whether they sell out or not)
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She isn't going anywhere. She's currently in the middle of a world tour which is going to visit every continent bar Antarctica, and just finished performing to around 110,000 people in the space of two nights in London. She's also projected to gross around $300,000,000 with this tour (more than The Monster Ball, with way less dates), second only to Madonna who has been in the game for more than 30 years. If this is what it's like to have your popularity waning, count me in any day ![]() |
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Definitely i would say yes her popularity has taken a hit.
And mostly because of BTw last year the material was sub par she was doing ever increasing pretentious and outlandish things to keep on top of an image and a persona she had created and it just grated on people especially when the al;bum was nowhere near as good as slated or like her previous releases and its continued wiht ARTPOP which is not an album but an app an experience the secnd coming she needs to reign it in sort out her fans who attack belittle all in the name of protecting her when what they are doing is damaging her she should be miles ahead by now but she is only slightly better off than TFM era.
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I do agree with the comments about obsessive fans putting the casual fans off. Whilst you need your loyal fan base you also need to appeal to the casual listener as overall it's the casual buyers of music that actually generate more sales of an album. Adele's 21 album is an example of this as generally she doesn't have a huge loyal fan base but her music especially 21 appealed to mass market both young and old and managed to get the casual music buyers out in their millions.
I also think that Gaga's BTW was overly aimed at the gay market it was just too camp. As a gay person I just found it too cliched and uninspiring. The fact that Little Monsters suddenly appeared to have breakdowns that people may make negative comments about her or her music sent them into a frenzy of haters of everything and everyone that wasn't Gaga has hugely put people off given her message is supposed to be about acceptance and Anti bullying yet her fans appear to be the worst sort of Cyber Bully. This is compounded by that she is fully aware of these little monsters and she appears to encourage it further. What will damage her longevity is that whilst people have bought into the little monster show your claw fad people quickly grow up and like Girl Power it was cool and trendy one year but two years later it was just embarrassing. Her music videos for the whole BTW era were just a mish mash of nothingness all of them too long and uninspiring generally because she was trying to hard to be artistic without any substance. I have bought all her albums and whilst I still listen to The Fame Monster I must admit that BTW really has just gathered dust after a month after purchase. Gaga really needs to step back and find her own persona as she appears to have become just a homage to other artists with little originality but just shock tactics to grab headlines. Her song Princess Die is an example of desperation for attention. |
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..If you think her popularity is on the wane then so is everybody elses...what you think slumbering Adele and the clueless Rihanna will continue to churn multi-million selling albums for the next 2 decades?? wait and see. Out of all the modern pop stars Gaga is the only one that has any recognisable staying power.
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Flop OP aside, I'd say her profile at the moment is about right.
BTW wasn't to everyones taste, the hits it did spawn were over a year ago and she's since been out of action for 9 odd months. Not surprising she isn't hot right now with the public. The tour success and perfume popularity certainly don't show any signs of her fanbase on the wane though, which is the important thing. Plus, the media covers everything she does, so the interest is still there.
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..If you think her popularity is on the wane then so is everybody elses...what you think slumbering Adele and the clueless Rihanna will continue to churn multi-million selling albums for the next 2 decades?? wait and see. Out of all the modern pop stars Gaga is the only one that has any recognisable staying power.
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She isn't going anywhere. She's currently in the middle of a world tour which is going to visit every continent bar Antarctica, and just finished performing to around 110,000 people in the space of two nights in London. She's also projected to gross around $300,000,000 with this tour (more than The Monster Ball, with way less dates), second only to Madonna who has been in the game for more than 30 years. If this is what it's like to have your popularity waning, count me in any day
she needs to reign it in sort out her fans who attack belittle all in the name of protecting her when what they are doing is damaging her she should be miles ahead by now but she is only slightly better off than TFM era.