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Why did the Costellos not work?
Like the Sharps (we wont talk about) and the Oconners( have they worked?) The Costellos were the third family bought into Hollyoaks 2 years ago.
-Silas- Grandpa- Serial Killer -Jasmine- transgender storyline -Heidi- Experienced actress from The Bill -Riley-Footballer in small village -Carl- Ex football, has affairs Seth- spare part On paper this sounds good. We had a big storyline with Jasmine and Silas but the family were put in the Dog and didnt become established and cared for... why was this? |
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They did, but everyone just started leaving.
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Because the scriptwriters did a shitty job.
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Like the Sharps (we wont talk about) and the Oconners( have they worked?) The Costellos were the third family bought into Hollyoaks 2 years ago.
-Silas- Grandpa- Serial Killer -Jasmine- transgender storyline -Heidi- Experienced actress from The Bill -Riley-Footballer in small village -Carl- Ex football, has affairs Seth- spare part On paper this sounds good. We had a big storyline with Jasmine and Silas but the family were put in the Dog and didnt become established and cared for... why was this? They definitely could have worked and be cared for if none of them were axed! Seth did have some storylines in the Hollyoaks Later! Was all good to watch! |
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Personally I didn't find Kim Tiddy very convincing and didn't think she had much/any chemistry with Paul Opacic. The Costellos didn't really gel whereas a family like the Kanes are so utterly believable as siblings/children. But they weren't awful and didn't really 'flop', just fizzled out.
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I think they were ok I don't think the O'connors have worked as the dad was axed Finn has disappeared and Diane Is only seen now and again.
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I think they were ok I don't think the O'connors have worked as the dad was axed Finn has disappeared and Diane Is only seen now and again.
I also think something that the writers failed to do was somehow include them in the Silas storyline more. I mean it went the whole year and none of them became suspicious even a little considering when he came to the village was when the first murder happened. I still cannot work out why they got rid of Rob O'Connor. It completely changed the family as Diane became agorophobic (it seemed like anyway) and was always stuck to the kitchen sink for months when we did see her. There have been a few brief scnes with other characters and now she is always stuck to Jen and her brother. |
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Like the Sharps (we wont talk about) and the Oconners( have they worked?) The Costellos were the third family bought into Hollyoaks 2 years ago.
-Silas- Grandpa- Serial Killer -Jasmine- transgender storyline -Heidi- Experienced actress from The Bill -Riley-Footballer in small village -Carl- Ex football, has affairs Seth- spare part On paper this sounds good. We had a big storyline with Jasmine and Silas but the family were put in the Dog and didnt become established and cared for... why was this? |
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Seth was a whiny little bitch, who got on peoples nerves after a while.
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Like the Sharps (we wont talk about) and the Oconners( have they worked?) The Costellos were the third family bought into Hollyoaks 2 years ago.
-Silas- Grandpa- Serial Killer -Jasmine- transgender storyline -Heidi- Experienced actress from The Bill -Riley-Footballer in small village -Carl- Ex football, has affairs Seth- spare part On paper this sounds good. We had a big storyline with Jasmine and Silas but the family were put in the Dog and didnt become established and cared for... why was this?
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I think they were ok I don't think the O'connors have worked as the dad was axed Finn has disappeared and Diane Is only seen now and again.
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I didn't think the casting was that good tbh, I mean Heidi looked like Riley's sister not his mother.
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None of their big storylines could feasibly last long-term. Jason was never going to transform into a boy before our eyes and they couldn't keep dragging out his complaining about it. Silas could only go undectected for so long. Carl and Mercedes' affair had to be found out about some time and what else was there to do with him and Heidi after that?
Riley out-lasted the rest but honestly I don't know what else they could really do with him either. Its a pity about Seth though, maybe there was some milage left in him. Mostly, none of them really had/have a massive personality and charisma. Unless you count Silas, who is bound to pop up again one day. |
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They did work! They had a bit of tough luck at the start - the storyline of Carl having slept with Mitzeee was a bit of a dog and they seemed to realise it, because they rushed it out of the way. And Jem was a real bore, and they got attached to her, but at least she left.
But Carl was a great sleazy Dad. Him and Heidi had some wonderful scenes where they came to terms with Jason's transgender identity. I liked the dynamic between Seth/Jason and Seth/Riley, it was really believable. And the stuff with Seth knowing about Carl/Mercy was great. Silas the cuddly killer grandad was inspired, obviously. Strange to think that a year ago, they were at the heart of the show, and Later. Now they're pretty much gone. It's a shame. |
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I really liked Seth and thought he was really good in later. He seemed to have potential, but then he seemed to be just a spare part.
The problem with Jas/Jason transgender story was it was always going to be long winded. It may better if she'd already had become Jason when they joined, but that probably wouldn't have worked as well. Heidi just kind of drifted in and out and then murdered. The Carl and Mercedes affair was just to much of an easy option, and personally thought was tedious. Surely they could have thought of something else for him instead of an affair which has been done a million times before. Riley has just become a mug and seems to have had a lobotomy at some time over the last few months. Silas, brilliant character and story but no real aftermath, and then brought back terrified a few more people and forgotten again. I'd forgotten about Jem but she just seemed miserable, but I can't really remember much about the character. |
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Heres an idea, could Jason have been played buy a guy and then pretended he was a girl so that in the end he would have been a guy to carry on? You cant really have a girl pretending to be a boy for years as Victoria Aiken would have had her body develop and it would have shown that shes a girl dressed up as a boy
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I think that the Costellos got caught up in the whole changing producers debacle (I think Paul Marquess had a long term plan before he left or was axed to be replaced by Gareth Phillips and Emma Smithwick) and the fact that most of them left after less than a year.
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The costello's were only brought in for the silas storyline.
The O'connors were brought in for sinead. That is why. |
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For myself they all did.
Of course some where stronger in terms of acting but as whole family they certainly jellied together and were/are better than the Sharpes and the Connors. Even the Kanes (at the moment). Their SLs were good and interesting and they had two of the most fascinating stories in recent years. One work quite well but didn't reach it's full potential that being due to some of the writing and the actress leaving and the other one being more than I could have imagined it to be. Jasmine/Jason had some nice moments beginning with the journey from Jasmine to jason. The involvement of Bart and both their conflicting feels for each other. The discovery of her family finding out and their reactions and also how the people of HO handled it. I enjoyed most of it but at time felt that TPTB didn't quite get it right in how they explored thsi character's journey. At times the pacing was too slow and then it seem they they rushed throiugh some of it to get them to place they want the character to be at that moment when I believe it wouldn't happen that quickly but then HO are know for this in other SLs. With the Silas SL well they got everything right there (IMO). Having a great actor in JR helped alot with this but the way it was written kept me on the edge of my seat wondering what was gonna happen next. All the murders were well thought out and the characers that were chosen to died were clever (even if they were axed as the actress or they were leaving the show anyway). And with Lynsey's involvement in a cat and mouse between her and Silas, it went to a whole 'nother level. And the climax (of his last killing in HO) with him accidently killing his own daughter was horrible, amazing and a couldn't keep your eyes off the screen moment. Even the kidnapping of Mercedes and the shocking discovery for his family in finding out what he actually did was good. (compare to quite a bit that is on HO at this moment). So I got to like the Costellos and wished that they could have stayed around a bit longer. I will miss Riley as I have all of them. If they had all stayed around (may with the exception of Mrs Costello because the way she died was too unmissable to watch for that ending to change), they could have become more of a popular family in the realms of the Hunters, Deans, Morgans. Not sure if they could have ever got to the status of the Osbornes or the Mcqueens in some peoples 's eyes. (Not that they are my fav ever families but are in my top ten/five). |
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I think that the Costellos got caught up in the whole changing producers debacle (I think Paul Marquess had a long term plan before he left or was axed to be replaced by Gareth Phillips and Emma Smithwick) and the fact that most of them left after less than a year.
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So I got to like the Costellos and wished that they could have stayed around a bit longer. I will miss Riley as I have all of them. If they had all stayed around (may with the exception of Mrs Costello because the way she died was too unmissable to watch for that ending to change), they could have become more of a popular family in the realms of the Hunters, Deans, Morgans. Not sure if they could have ever got to the status of the Osbornes or the Mcqueens in some peoples 's eyes. (Not that they are my fav ever families but are in my top ten/five). |
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