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Mark Gatiss has now left twitter.
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researchshirley
15-09-2012
Originally Posted by Richardcoulter:
“As an openly gay man he's probably used to vile, bigoted and juvenile comments.

However, most gay men i've met have, to a greater or lesser degree have been immature themselves.

Gatiss is to be applauded for behaving like an adult in this situation.”

Nice bit of idiotic homophobia there, well done.
pajs1000
15-09-2012
Originally Posted by researchshirley:
“Nice bit of idiotic homophobia there, well done.”

I agree.
Cellar_Door
15-09-2012
Originally Posted by researchshirley:
“Nice bit of idiotic homophobia there, well done.”

I know right, it's as bad as the idiots who make disparaging remarks about anyone even mentioning the possibility of a female doctor, it's crazy.
sebbie3000
15-09-2012
Originally Posted by Richardcoulter:
“As an openly gay man he's probably used to vile, bigoted and juvenile comments.

However, most gay men i've met have, to a greater or lesser degree have been immature themselves.

Gatiss is to be applauded for behaving like an adult in this situation.”

As an openly gay man, I will never get used to vile bigoted and juvenile comments.

Nor should I be expected to have done.
alwatson
15-09-2012
He tweeted 2 hours ago....

Quote:

What's all this bollocks? All I did was go to bed!

I think OP owes an apology for her accusations.
pajs1000
15-09-2012
Originally Posted by alwatson:
“He tweeted 2 hours ago....

Quote:

What's all this bollocks? All I did was go to bed!

I think OP owes an apology for her accusations.”

True.
Neomysterio
15-09-2012
Originally Posted by sebbie3000:
“As an openly gay man, I will never get used to vile bigoted and juvenile comments.

Nor should I be expected to have done.”

Agreed.
Richardcoulter
15-09-2012
Originally Posted by aisey:
“Perhaps they were thinking the same about you.”

Perhaps they were, but if they did, they never said so.

Originally Posted by sohoguy:
“What do you think about black people? Or disabled people you've met? Care to share your insights into those minorities based on your minimal level of experience?

Shameful.”

I have had a lot of experience of gay people in my life through business.

I do find black people cause a lot of problems for themselves, whereas those that get on with it do seem to escape a lot of racism.

I am disabled myself and have met many disabled people too. Most just seem to get on with life. I have only ever met two who had a chip on their shoulder and, again, did themselves no favours with their bitter outlook.

Originally Posted by aisey:
“Indeed.”

Originally Posted by researchshirley:
“Nice bit of idiotic homophobia there, well done.”

Originally Posted by pajs1000:
“I agree.”

Nonsense. I have met, employed and have gay people in my social circle.

This is how I have formed the opinion that most that i've met have lacked maturity to a greater or lesser extent. There may be social or psychological reasons for this, it would be interesting to do some research.

Originally Posted by Cellar_Door:
“I know right, it's as bad as the idiots who make disparaging remarks about anyone even mentioning the possibility of a female doctor, it's crazy.”

I don't see why there shouldn't be a female doctor.

Originally Posted by sebbie3000:
“As an openly gay man, I will never get used to vile bigoted and juvenile comments.

Nor should I be expected to have done.”

Research has shown that most openly gay people have suffered verbal abuse to varying degrees because of their sexuality.
Dean Dare
15-09-2012
Originally Posted by Richardcoulter:
“Perhaps they were, but if they did, they

I do find black people cause a lot of problems for themselves, whereas those that get on with it do seem to escape a lot of racism.

I am disabled myself and have met many disabled people too. Most just seem to get on with life. I have only ever met two who had a chip on their shoulder and, again, did themselves no favours



Research has shown that most openly gay people have suffered verbal abuse to varying degrees because of their sexuality.”

Really?

Words fail me
Richardcoulter
15-09-2012
I would normally ask you to elaborate, so that your post has more substance, but I think that the thread has been taken off topic enough already.

Does anyone have anything to say about Mark Gatiss and his Twitter account?
aisey
15-09-2012
Originally Posted by Richardcoulter:
“Perhaps they were, but if they did, they never said so.



I have had a lot of experience of gay people in my life through business.

I do find black people cause a lot of problems for themselves, whereas those that get on with it do seem to escape a lot of racism.

I am disabled myself and have met many disabled people too. Most just seem to get on with life. I have only ever met two who had a chip on their shoulder and, again, did themselves no favours with their bitter outlook.







Nonsense. I have met, employed and have gay people in my social circle.

This is how I have formed the opinion that most that i've met have lacked maturity to a greater or lesser extent. There may be social or psychological reasons for this, it would be interesting to do some research.



I don't see why there shouldn't be a female doctor.



Research has shown that most openly gay people have suffered verbal abuse to varying degrees because of their sexuality.”

Wow. That's quite some messed up view you have there. I rather pity you. The ignorance you have is quite something else.
shortcrust
15-09-2012
Originally Posted by aisey:
“Wow. That's quite some messed up view you have there. I rather pity you. The ignorance you have is quite something else.”

+1

Mr Coulter clearly belongs to a different time. Perhaps the Doctor would take him back there if we all asked nicely.
MinkytheDog
15-09-2012
Originally Posted by sebbie3000:
“As an openly gay man, I will never get used to vile bigoted and juvenile comments.

Nor should I be expected to have done.”

Ooo - get her

Seriously - my experience of gay men and women is they are as different from each other as I am from anyone else.

I honestly thought that people who appreciate Doctor Who would be more open-minded to the fact that prejudice and bigotry are a weakness that borders on evil and frequently leads to it.
sebbie3000
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by MinkytheDog:
“Ooo - get her

Seriously - my experience of gay men and women is they are as different from each other as I am from anyone else.

I honestly thought that people who appreciate Doctor Who would be more open-minded to the fact that prejudice and bigotry are a weakness that borders on evil and frequently leads to it.”

People take from a show what speaks to them - unfortunately, it's not always what's intended that they get!
Richardcoulter
16-09-2012
Can we please keep on topic.

This is not the place to discuss views on racism, homophobia or ableism. Other people may be discussing this in the appropriate places, if not feel free to start a new thread on the topic(s.)

Has everybody now said what they want to say about Mark Gatiss and his Twitter account?
shortcrust
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by Richardcoulter:
“Can we please keep on topic.

This is not the place to discuss views on racism, homophobia or ableism. Other people may be discussing this in the appropriate places, if not feel free to start a new thread on the topic(s.)

Has everybody now said what they want to say about Mark Gatiss and his Twitter account?”

^^^
Bit like chucking a stink bomb and then complaining about the smell.
sohoguy
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by aisey:
“Perhaps they were thinking the same about you.”

Originally Posted by Richardcoulter:
“I would normally ask you to elaborate, so that your post has more substance, but I think that the thread has been taken off topic enough already.

Does anyone have anything to say about Mark Gatiss and his Twitter account?”

No we're all shocked and appalled by your generalisations about gay people. And now black people too.

And don't whinge that people are responding to what you said because it's "off topic". YOU made it ON topic
sohoguy
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by Richardcoulter:
“Can we please keep on topic.

This is not the place to discuss views on racism, homophobia or ableism. Other people may be discussing this in the appropriate places, if not feel free to start a new thread on the topic(s.)

Has everybody now said what they want to say about Mark Gatiss and his Twitter account?”

I think you should ask DS to delete this whole thing.

I think you're misguided and shockingly unaware of the level of offense your comments have caused, but I also don't think this should turn into a witch-hunt.
MinkytheDog
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by Richardcoulter:
“Does anyone have anything to say about Mark Gatiss and his Twitter account?”

Yes.

Nothing happened - but a small number of people still managed to use that to cause offence and insult large numbers of people.

It's no wonder the Doctor wants to be forgotten. With fans like that, who needs Daleks
sepmix
16-09-2012
No response from Jess Hallett since they were made to look s joke. Still annoyed that he/she accused this board of forcing Gatiss off Twitter.
comedyfish
16-09-2012
Oh Shit!! Op, Mark Has Gone To Bed Again!!!!!
Craigpugh
16-09-2012
Unbelievable ignorance on display here and how life affirming to see so many rallying against it!
The defence of 'i know gay people, some of my employees are gay, so I can't be homophobic' is just fatuous trash. I imagine your gay 'friends' would be distraught to hear you saying that based on observation of them, you generalise that they, and indeed all gay people are psychologically flawed/ immature. One of the most if not the most upsetting and disgusting homophobic views I have ever come across. Maybe I have led a charmed life but I have not had to 'get used' to vile homophobic attitudes in my life as I have rarely encountered them, I have taken this to mean that people on the whole are relaxed and comfortable with the fact that people have a variety of sexualities and that that is perectly fine.
As to the attitude about black people, just utterly outrageous!!!
Almost to the point where I'm wondering if I have been trolled? Usually I would click the report button, but the debate has been refreshing and life affirming ( he says as an immotionallu immature openly gay man, boom boom)
So thank goodness mark gattis has NOT been hounded off twitter, and if he had been, or were to be in future, let us hope that it would not in any case be due to homophobia!
allen_who
16-09-2012
I like Jess but I hope she apologises for creating a misleading thread that seems to accuse us lot of pushing Mark away from Twitter.

I've a feeling she wasn't actually accusing anyone on here - rather she was looking for solidarity from us for what she perceived had happened.

She's made a minor mistake that's all, but would be nice if she made another comment on this thread before it dies away

oh - I didn't know M Gatiss was gay., but then again I really couldn't give a toss. Don't impact on my life one little bit
gboy
16-09-2012
Hopefully Mark hasn't left Twitter, as he's a witty and entertaining guy.

His sexuality shouldn't have any bearing on anything at all.

As for the 'maturity' or otherwise of gay people - let's not generalise:

Most homophobic people I know tend to be very stupid, however, not all the stupid people I know are homophobic...
sebbie3000
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by allen_who:
“I like Jess but I hope she apologises for creating a misleading thread that seems to accuse us lot of pushing Mark away from Twitter.

I've a feeling she wasn't actually accusing anyone on here - rather she was looking for solidarity from us for what she perceived had happened.

She's made a minor mistake that's all, but would be nice if she made another comment on this thread before it dies away

oh - I didn't know M Gatiss was gay., but then again I really couldn't give a toss. Don't impact on my life one little bit”

That was what I thought had been the point of the post, too.
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