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Anton Du Beke
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Jan2555*GG*
15-09-2012
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Did you see in the pro group dance when he tried to lift Erin? It was a sight to behold, and not in a nice way. ”

Yes I did. I am afraid that neither of them are up to the same standard as the others in group Latin. I don't know why they don't just accept it & sit out the group Latin dances. I love Erin but enough is enough.
Stockingfiller
16-09-2012
Anton an old, old, man ? Haha. No. Let's not go back to having a young male dancer on for the teenies eg Jared.

I don't fancy watching a shedful of Justin Bieber lookalikes either.
SCD-Observer
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by Stockingfiller:
“Anton an old, old, man ? Haha. No. Let's not go back to having a young male dancer on for the teenies eg Jared.

I don't fancy watching a shedful of Justin Bieber lookalikes either. ”

Anton dances LIKE an old man especially when he's doing latin. Brendan is not a spring chicken, but at least his latin is watchable. And Brendan has improved so much in his ballroom style and choreography as well. So there. But pros were in the show since its inception, one 'ages' well (Brendan) and one is becoming an embarrassment every passing series...
missfrankiecat
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by -Sid-:
“I can't comment on technique but his Latin looks a bit old-fashioned and naff.

Even with Laila, he couldn't resist incorporating lots of cheesy disco moves into the Samba. They gave up altogether on the Jive, and the Salsa was a mess.

Of course Laila has to take some responsibility here, but if her Ballroom was so good then it made me wonder if Anton just couldn't be bothered teaching her the Latin properly.

Only the Paso & surprisingly the Rhumba (what we saw of it) looked any good. The party-type dances were awful.

I hope he'll at least take the Ballroom seriously with Jerry so she can show off her long, elegant frame. But I expect lots of gimmicks in the Latin. That stuff was fine with Ann and Kate but it didn't suit Nancy and it won't work with someone like Jerry. She's too cool for that (and him).”

I can see that you are smitten, Sid, but I have to say, while Jerry will be fun and have some good lines, she has an almost laughable lack rhythm, given her past history. She struggles to bob along in time at a gig, so the Latin isn't going to be pretty - no doubt Anton will get the blame, as usual.
LazySusan
16-09-2012
According to today's Mail on Sunday Anton threw a strop backstage when he found out he was partnered with Jerry. Something to do with always having high maintenenace partners.

How true that is is anybody's guess, SCD could have even deliberately 'leaked' to press to get publicity.
Lady Minuette
16-09-2012
Well I'm another Anton fan and if ever I was in a position to be in Strictly I would choose him as my partner. I love watching his ballroom - he is so elegant and smooth and I actually dislike the party-style dances - they all look the same to me! I don't care for some of the pros but would not dream of disparaging them as rudely as some posters do about Anton. Why is it necessary to be so negative?
Merity
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by teagenie:
“I love Anton and hate the slating he gets on here.

He is a lovely bloke, a total gentleman.”

Well said. I love Anton.

And his ballroom is absolutely sublime!
I cant take my eyes off him when he is dancing ballroom.

Good luck to him and Jerry. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for them.
IvanIV
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Anton dances LIKE an old man especially when he's doing latin. Brendan is not a spring chicken, but at least his latin is watchable. And Brendan has improved so much in his ballroom style and choreography as well. So there. But pros were in the show since its inception, one 'ages' well (Brendan) and one is becoming an embarrassment every passing series...”

My vision of Anton doing latin is he in a chiffon shirt with ruffled sleeves, maracas in his hands He can't do it properly, so he turns it into a joke. He might be a good ballroom dancer, but he can't do proper latin. It was on display yesterday when every dancer was showing off with some interesting figure and then Anton came. Also either all his partners had two left legs or he does not know how to teach dancing very well.
tvaddict37
16-09-2012
Can i recruit the anton fans from this thread to post in the anton lovers thread in appreciation.
Thanks!
Annsyre
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by clivefield:
“I thought Anton would have been gievn a chance this yer but once again no. Also Erin & Richard. Why do these 2 bother”

All the professionals are paid the same and he got massive publicity with Ann Widdecombe and they entertained us for weeks. What more do you want?

He and Jerry are going to be great value for our money.
Dan Sette
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by clivefield:
“I thought Anton would have been gievn a chance this yer but once again no. Also Erin & Richard. Why do these 2 bother”

Cash. Cold hard cash.

You can almost hear the conversation.

"Anton, you come across as a good natured person, so you're the resident comedian from now on"

"You don't want to do it? OK let's look at my replacement professional book"

"Sorry, I misunderstood - Great, see you for the next season"
mrsdidi
16-09-2012
I like Anton and as already said his ballroom is just gorgeous to watch, what does puzzle me though is why Anton gets such flack for his Latin, which whilst not as good as some others is still I would bet a darn site better than some posters could do, some of the others whose Latin is amazing but whose ballroom is lack lustre don't get the same flack.
I just accept that most of the professionals excell at one discipline and the odd one is good at both, but surely the completion element is about how they steer the celebrities. I would rather see a performance that showcases the celebrity than one which showcases the professional at the expense of the celebrity and in my opinion Anton and a couple of others does just that
muddipaws
16-09-2012
It is probably a good pairing, Jerry will find it difficult with Latin so why not give her a chance to shine in Ballroom with the best ballroom tutor? Yes he is naff at Latin so there are really no expectations, which for the producers s a good call from both him and her
elizabethjo
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by mrsdidi:
“I like Anton and as already said his ballroom is just gorgeous to watch, what does puzzle me though is why Anton gets such flack for his Latin, which whilst not as good as some others is still I would bet a darn site better than some posters could do, some of the others whose Latin is amazing but whose ballroom is lack lustre don't get the same flack.
I just accept that most of the professionals excell at one discipline and the odd one is good at both, but surely the completion element is about how they steer the celebrities. I would rather see a performance that showcases the celebrity than one which showcases the professional at the expense of the celebrity and in my opinion Anton and a couple of others does just that”

Agree with this.
Most of the latin specialists are rubbish at ballroom but get away with it. James Jordan being one of the worst and the others not far behind. Erin is just the same as Anton but she doesnt get slated, I wonder why?
There are a few good at both ie Brendan, Vincent and Flavia, and Natalie and both Matthew Cutler and Ian Waite though both were axed for some reason
Jayinthegarden
16-09-2012
Anton is hanging in there until Bruce retires and he can take over
TerryM22
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by Jayinthegarden:
“Anton is hanging in there until Bruce retires and he can take over”

As long as Anton waits until Sir Bruce decides to retire, I would be fine with that.
IvanIV
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by mrsdidi:
“I like Anton and as already said his ballroom is just gorgeous to watch, what does puzzle me though is why Anton gets such flack for his Latin, which whilst not as good as some others is still I would bet a darn site better than some posters could do, some of the others whose Latin is amazing but whose ballroom is lack lustre don't get the same flack.”

Are we really going to get into the "you can only be critical about something if you can do it better' debate? There's a good reason why they are dancing on TV and we watch it. But we can still compare and judge certain aspects of it. Alesha even got paid for doing just that I think it's easier to spot deficiencies in latin than in ballroom. In ballroom you get to a certain level and it will look good for an untrained eye, while mediocre latin will look just that, mediocre.
Annsyre
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by muddipaws:
“It is probably a good pairing, Jerry will find it difficult with Latin so why not give her a chance to shine in Ballroom with the best ballroom tutor? Yes he is naff at Latin so there are really no expectations, which for the producers s a good call from both him and her”

Most viewers are not experts in the finer arts of ballroom dancing.

They vote for their favourites regardless of performance.
IvanIV
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by Jayinthegarden:
“Anton is hanging in there until Bruce retires and he can take over”

A prospect of having to endure Anton's persona all evening will have me retire from Strictly about the same time Brucie will.
Smokeychan1
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by Lady Minuette:
“Well I'm another Anton fan and if ever I was in a position to be in Strictly I would choose him as my partner. I love watching his ballroom - he is so elegant and smooth and I actually dislike the party-style dances - they all look the same to me! I don't care for some of the pros but would not dream of disparaging them as rudely as some posters do about Anton. Why is it necessary to be so negative?”

Don't you think that's a tad hypocritical when the premise of the OP was disparaging of Jerry?
Liz G-S
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by IvanIV:
“A prospect of having to endure Anton's persona all evening will have me retire from Strictly about the same time Brucie will.”

I think they will need an experienced presenter and a top name to host what is their biggest and most successful show. In my opinion, Anton does not fit the requirements and he doesn't seem to have done much lately.
*Topaz*
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by LazySusan:
“According to today's Mail on Sunday Anton threw a strop backstage when he found out he was partnered with Jerry. Something to do with always having high maintenenace partners.

How true that is is anybody's guess, SCD could have even deliberately 'leaked' to press to get publicity.”

The sun have 'reported' on it too.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...e-partner.html

This bit made me smile

Quote:
“But last night Anton was said to have “warmed” to Jerry.

A BBC source said: “He’s thinking that she’s quite high-profile, so might get him to the final.””

*Topaz*
16-09-2012
Originally Posted by Liz G-S:
“I think they will need an experienced presenter and a top name to host what is their biggest and most successful show. In my opinion, Anton does not fit the requirements and he doesn't seem to have done much lately.”

I agree Anton's not cut out for live presenting, a few years ago he used to do quite a bit of presenting and they may have been grooming him to take over from Brucie, but then I think producers realised he just wasn't a very good presenter and now those presenting gigs seem to have fallen by the wayside!

I think when Anton retires or gets the boot as a pro from SCD, they'll still give him some sort of role on the show eg a spot ITT, the red button etc because he has his fans but I'd be very surprised if they gave him the main presenting job!
csiaddict71
16-09-2012
I love Anton too, and my favourite bit last night was when he pretty much just sauntered across the stage to meet Jerry. None of that posturing and posing the rest of them do for our Anton lol!
Moonbean
16-09-2012
I'm another Anton fan. I've seen him live and his ballroom was gorgeous! Yes, I agree his Latin isn't up to Vincent's standard, but all the pros have their strengths and weaknesses.
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