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EE - Would happy relationships work?
We all know, no couple last few months together without either cheating or splitting up but would happy couple work? Or would it too boring?
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what i liked about phil/shirley is that they could be happy but still have good storylines that didnt always involve cheating. they had the ben/heather storyline in april 2011, the rainie one in june, the stalker one in november and leading to phil going to prison. then they had ben killing heather yet they still had nice and happy moments during all the angst. they also had a huge drinking s/l which kept them interesting janine and michael are quite complex too but they were rarely happy if they have a couple who are complex enough for big storylines that dont involve cheating then yes they can have happy couples and still give them angst max and tanya can be happy with angst too and it didnt always involve cheating masood and zainab aswell. i think couples like this work best with a family who could generate different storylines. kat/alfie only have a young family so they had nothing else to give them for big storylines. |
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I agree (for once
) with mona that happier couples (by soap standards) are more workable in bigger family units with older children. That also opens doors for the couple to be featured heavily in a matriarchal/patriarchal position, rather than just stories revolving around their own love lives.I would definitely like a stable family like that in the show. I think we need more domestic-style stories, and less family/relationship issues that focus on adultery. |
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-Jim and Dot seem to be the only lasting relationship in EE and they were happy up until Jim had his stroke. They probobaly still are somewhat happy when they spend time together although the relationship will probobaly never b the same.
-Patrick and Cora seem to be happy at the moment and they can have plenty of storylines. they probly have one coming up with the arrival of Ava. -Dennis and Sharon were happy and that relationship worked....until Dennis's "helicopter crash and subsequent drowning at sea" |
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Happy relationships would work if the writer's focused on developing storylines that didn't involve the breakdown of them.
Giving a couple challenges is fine and provides drama, but giving them needless affairs and separations just for the sake of something to do is irritating. It smacks of lazy writing when they resort to it, especially with couples like Kat/Alfie and Max/Tanya who seem like that's all they ever do. |
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I agree (for once
) with mona that happier couples (by soap standards) are more workable in bigger family units with older children. That also opens doors for the couple to be featured heavily in a matriarchal/patriarchal position, rather than just stories revolving around their own love lives.I would definitely like a stable family like that in the show. I think we need more domestic-style stories, and less family/relationship issues that focus on adultery. dennis/sharon were happy but i think they wouldve gotten boring had they stayed and always been happy |
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what i liked about phil/shirley is that they could be happy but still have good storylines that didnt always involve cheating. they had the ben/heather storyline in april 2011, the rainie one in june, the stalker one in november and leading to phil going to prison. then they had ben killing heather yet they still had nice and happy moments during all the angst. they also had a huge drinking s/l which kept them interesting
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janine and michael are quite complex too but they were rarely happy
I can't ever see Michael/Janine being happy together. They're far too similar and there will always be trust issues there. Quote:
if they have a couple who are complex enough for big storylines that dont involve cheating then yes they can have happy couples and still give them angst
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max and tanya can be happy with angst too and it didnt always involve cheating masood and zainab aswell.
Max & Tanya didn't always involve cheating? Masood & Zainab are the only couple I can see being happy together after everything.Quote:
i think couples like this work best with a family who could generate different storylines. kat/alfie only have a young family so they had nothing else to give them for big storylines.
I agree with you here. Couples with older children should work better then.
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I think you just need a realistic mixture. In EE's they give the impression that everybody's "at it" all the time..I'm surprised they've got the time these days ! At least give a few of the relationships time to grow, the Michael/Janine coupling was inspired with some wonderful script lines, now that's finished or at least suspended.
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Phil cheated on Shirley and I wouldn't really say they were happy together. When I say happy couple, I mean two people who treat each other as equals, don't cheat on each other at all. And oh, one isn't a doormat
I can't ever see Michael/Janine being happy together. They're far too similar and there will always be trust issues there. This I agree with. Max & Tanya didn't always involve cheating? Masood & Zainab are the only couple I can see being happy together after everything. I agree with you here. Couples with older children should work better then. not since max and tanya got back together no. |
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he had the glenda affair but didnt cheat after he proposed. they had happy moments not always happy but thats what i mean.
not since max and tanya got back together no. As for Phil, the man thinks he can do better than Shirley and he couldn't even promise he wouldn't cheat on her again Not what I call a happy couple.
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Max was off flirting with Roxy few weeks after he got back with Tanya, if he loved Tanya so much, he would've been far too worried about her cancer to think about Roxy.
As for Phil, the man thinks he can do better than Shirley and he couldn't even promise he wouldn't cheat on her again Not what I call a happy couple. |
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I think in soap terms 'happy' equates to a stable/fairly healthy relationship. Max/Tanya and Phil/Shirley definitely do not fall under this imo. The closest thing the show has to stability is Zainab and Masood but even they split for a while. Ditto Ian and Jane before them.
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I think in soap terms 'happy' equates to a stable/fairly healthy relationship. Max/Tanya and Phil/Shirley definitely do not fall under this imo. The closest thing the show has to stability is Zainab and Masood but even they split for a while. Ditto Ian and Jane before them.
max and tanya might not be a great couple dynamic wise but they are stable. well at least they should be |
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i wish they had kept to their dynamic that they had back in 2008. shirleys line about them being friends once was very true they were but had genuine feelings for each other. had they kept them stable with kids they couldve generated a stable family and had stories for years they had good chemistry at the start
max and tanya might not be a great couple dynamic wise but they are stable. well at least they should be We really need a family like that in the show imo. |
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I do agree re. Phil and Shirley. I was rooting for them back in the early days, and I could have imagined them as the heads of dysfunctional yet endearing working-class family.
We really need a family like that in the show imo. |
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i wish they had kept to their dynamic that they had back in 2008. shirleys line about them being friends once was very true they were but had genuine feelings for each other. had they kept them stable with kids they couldve generated a stable family and had stories for years they had good chemistry at the start
max and tanya might not be a great couple dynamic wise but they are stable. well at least they should be Getting him drunk to sleep with him just showed her desperation |
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Me too. Shirley wasn't so desperate to be with him then and Phil actually seem to care about her, like when he went with her to the hospital (was it cancer scare?)
Getting him drunk to sleep with him just showed her desperation i didnt see it as desperate i saw it as her being confused and insecure that he liked her. he said she was ugly the xmas before. she was the one who dumped him then he tried to kiss her after dawn and she said no yes those were the best scenes it all got ruined from 09 which is weird considering the year build up in 08 |
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he was already drunk when he slept with her
i didnt see it as desperate i saw it as her being confused and insecure that he liked her. he said she was ugly the xmas before. she was the one who dumped him then he tried to kiss her after dawn and she said no yes those were the best scenes it all got ruined from 09 which is weird considering the year build up in 08 |
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Didn't she keep giving him alcohol to sleep with him cos he wouldn't go there when he was sober?
that whole drinking s/l developed throughout their relationship and the proper conclusion was that he couldnt drink it cos he loved her. i dont see any other reason for that scene if it wasnt that |
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Didn't she keep giving him drink to sleep with him cos he wouldn't go there when he was sober?
But this thread isn't really about discussing couples that could have been happy but weren't. I think Denise for one deserves a happy, long-lasting relationship that establishes her as a matriarchal figure in a family unit dynamic. |
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he had the glenda affair but didnt cheat after he proposed. they had happy moments not always happy but thats what i mean.
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Lol, he didn't really have a chance did he? It was a matter of days after the proposal that Sharon returned and Shirley discovered the cover up.
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Yeah, she pretty much took advantage of his reliance on the booze at that time, actively encouraging him essentially to keep him on-side. That was the death-knell for me rooting for them. It's a shame as I think they had a lot of potential initially. And without getting into THAT discussion again, I think especially when the producers set their heart on bringing back Sharon (it has been said on-record that it took over a year to woo Letitia back) that they decided to downplay the Shirley relationship.
But this thread isn't really about discussing couples that could have been happy but weren't. I think Denise for one deserves a happy, long-lasting relationship that establishes her as a matriarchal figure in a family unit dynamic.
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But this thread isn't really about discussing couples that could have been happy but weren't. I think Denise for one deserves a happy, long-lasting relationship that establishes her as a matriarchal figure in a family unit dynamic.
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I think happy couples would work fine, they just have to be more imaginative and stop being lazy corrie and emmerdale have couples that don't cheat and even hollyoaks has a few (nancy and Darren, franki and Jack) If they can all do other storylines besides whacking the cheating stick at thier couples I don't see why EE can't
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) with mona that happier couples (by soap standards) are more workable in bigger family units with older children. That also opens doors for the couple to be featured heavily in a matriarchal/patriarchal position, rather than just stories revolving around their own love lives.
Not what I call a happy couple.