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Old 16-09-2012, 15:57
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Did ray overeact in tuesday's episode when he was stopped and searched?
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Old 16-09-2012, 16:08
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I thought the title was overact in which case yes but no I don't think he over reacted in that I would understand feeling like he did if in similar circumstances.

It must be quite depressing to realise no matter what you do certain sections of society are only ever going to see you in one light and that's a negative light.
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Old 16-09-2012, 16:43
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I thought the title was overact in which case yes but no I don't think he over reacted in that I would understand feeling like he did if in similar circumstances.

It must be quite depressing to realise no matter what you do certain sections of society are only ever going to see you in one light and that's a negative light.
I didn't find the officer particularly racist. Ray should have just opened his jacket straight away rather than causing a scene. Total overreaction imo.
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Old 16-09-2012, 16:52
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I got the feeling that it's kind of built up, and on Tuesday's ep he just exploded, as one would eventually.
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Old 16-09-2012, 18:02
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I think it would have been better if they built this S/L up over time, had him out and about and regularly stopped & searched, the sonny comment by the copper was a bit ..... It's typical soapland though, they rush through some S/L bringing them about like a bolt out of the blue and other S/L they stretch out so much it becomes boring.
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Old 16-09-2012, 18:06
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I think his reaction would have made far more sense if he had been in a group with other males (where he is the only black male).
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Old 16-09-2012, 18:07
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i thought he did overreact a little. However what I was more confused over that it seemed a little "out of the blue"

In fact it reminded me when they have to re-record something quickly to fit in with something which has had to be removed from the episode. It just came out of nowhere, but maybe a start of something else?
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Old 16-09-2012, 18:31
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I think it would have been better if they built this S/L up over time, had him out and about and regularly stopped & searched, the sonny comment by the copper was a bit ..... It's typical soapland though, they rush through some S/L bringing them about like a bolt out of the blue and other S/L they stretch out so much it becomes boring.
Lazy, lazy, lazy. Amazing how the writers can hang some dreary storylines out for weeks but when it comes to something important or relevant to society in general it gets two minutes screen time. But then if you got all your information about British life from soaps ... apparently nobody talks about sport, or politics, or the news, or tv programmes. Go figure.
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Old 16-09-2012, 18:39
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No because we don't know what he has been through in his past because of his colour.
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Old 16-09-2012, 19:17
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Yes, he was seen running with something under his jacket, right when there was a mugging.. of course he was going to be stopped. It wasn't racist...
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Old 16-09-2012, 19:40
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The impication is that he was stopped because the person who had been mugged described their attacker as black.

Ray thought that the officer had stopped him simply because he fit the 'black' criteria.
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Old 16-09-2012, 19:43
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In all honesty if there was a spate of burglaries around my area and the description was a white female with an Irish accent and I was running with something under my hoodie, I'd expect to be stopped & searched.
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Old 16-09-2012, 19:45
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I can see people in his situation losing their temper. Realistic however I would say overreacted as well.
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Old 16-09-2012, 19:54
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Totally OTT ...he is an angry character though ..always miserable ..Don't know what Kim would be doing with him if he didnt have a Fit body .White Hooded people get stopped aswell ..are we still in this Police stop ALL black people ..just curious
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Old 16-09-2012, 19:56
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Old 16-09-2012, 19:57
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Also if it was stated the mugger was black it is quite feasable to check a black person near the scene
I would rather be eliminated then let them get the real mugger for others sakes
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Old 16-09-2012, 20:25
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Also if it was stated the mugger was black it is quite feasable to check a black person near the scene
I would rather be eliminated then let them get the real mugger for others sakes
If Ray was harrassed by the police all the time I could see the frustration, what with it being a one off he had no reason not to comply.

If Ray had been guilty would he have reacted any differently to a non guilty Ray? If he'd just shown the copper what was under his hood he'd have saved himself a lot of time.
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Old 16-09-2012, 20:33
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Where they messed up in that scene was having Ray react so extreme when the copper was actually (relatively) reasonable, especially in his reason for questioning Ray. The copper would have asked anyone who was there, regardless of colour. The situation didn't warrant Ray losing it.

What they ended up promoting was a black guy playing the 'race card' just cause an officer talked to him. They definitely needed to show the copper being racist if they were gonna pull this off successfully. Instead they made Ray look like an idiot, when we already know he's a decent guy.

The only way they can redeem this is if we find out Ray has been treated like crap by the police in the past.
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Old 16-09-2012, 20:41
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It would have made more sense if this storyline had been done throughout the week rather than just being filler, giving the black characters something to do.
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Old 16-09-2012, 20:45
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Where they messed up in that scene was having Ray react so extreme when the copper was actually (relatively) reasonable, especially in his reason for questioning Ray. The copper would have asked anyone who was there, regardless of colour. The situation didn't warrant Ray losing it.

What they ended up promoting was a black guy playing the 'race card' just cause an officer talked to him. They definitely needed to show the copper being racist if they were gonna pull this off successfully. Instead they made Ray look like an idiot, when we already know he's a decent guy.

The only way they can redeem this is if we find out Ray has been treated like crap by the police in the past.
agreed
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Old 16-09-2012, 21:29
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Thanks, i just wondered if people had also had examples where black people have called people racist for nothing. I think that if he matched the description and in the area he had the right to be stopped.
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Old 16-09-2012, 21:49
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If someone was subjected to a lot of racism I could imagine that they see racism everywhere, if we had seen Ray being subjected to racism before now then the story would be more believable.
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Old 16-09-2012, 23:16
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Surely the point was that Ray felt he was stopped and searched as an easy target because he was black. The officer was of course doing his job but it appeared like he showed no sympathy to Ray at all and wasn't really listening or bothered.

The scene surely meant this had happened to Ray a lot and he now realises after all this time whatever he is or achieves he will only ever look like a mugger to some people. Otherwise what was the point of the scene Just to show Ray as someone who overreacts and plays the race card when we've never seen any of this in him before.

To some degree they didn't treat it brilliantly as it appeared out of the blue. However I would have thought a regular audience of EE could fill in the blanks as we're often expected to do that.
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Old 16-09-2012, 23:24
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A total overreaction

AND the stop and search was done totally wrong
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Old 17-09-2012, 00:38
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No-one is denying that racism like this goes on, or that it shouldn't be done as a storyline (I'd welcome it), but it felt like this was written, directed and acted by people who don't have a clue!

They should do some research, because this deserves to be dealt with in an accurate way in a proper storyline, not just slapdash.
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