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Why so much hype over music sales?
Why do people attach so much importance to how many albums or singles their favourite artists make?
Great music is about so much more than sales, it is about artistic expression. Can we not have a debate about the quality of the music rather than how many copies of an album is sold? The only thing that sales measures is marketing and exposure, they have nothing to do with quality. Don't even get me started on people who use sales figures to boast that their favourite artist is better than everyone else's
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the music BUSINESS .....
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I agree sale shouldn't matter if u enjoy someone's music no matter who it is
If u like a song/ album why should sales of it effect Ur view of it? |
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It's mostly stans who use sales/statistics to "prove" that their favourite is better than anyone else who has walked the planet.
Sales are important to me, only in the respect that if I love an artist, I want them to get decent sales to fund another album and avoid being dropped from their label. |
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People like their faves to do well.
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Can we not have a debate about the quality of the music rather than how many copies of an album is sold?
Whose opinion counts? Professional music reviewers? Musicians? Those who have the the most fans on the forum (Jedward fans!)? Or the music "snobs" who constantly extol the virtues of some obscure band or performer right up until they gain a modicum of commercial success? Sales figures are about the only reasonably objective measure. |
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If you don't sell you don't make the dosh, and if you don't make the dosh you get dropped. Tis how the music business works I'm afraid.
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The business side should not concern the listener, it should be irrelevant. The only thing that matters is how a song makes you feel and how good it is to you.
For most new (pop) artists it tends to be a successful single will mean an album will be released, if the album does well then they will tour and a successful tour/album will mean future releases. All things fans would want. I completely agree with quantity of sale has little reflection of quality (although it does a bit) and the success (or lack of) of a song/album should not change your personal opinion of it. But if you really like an artists then you're almost forces into caring. For me personally, I find that my favourite songs by artists tend to do less well because if they do get released as singles they get little promotion compared to the lead singles, but I still love them regardless. And I have to confess I love chart stuff, I love seeing statistics, how long a song managed to stay in the top 40, who has the most #1s etc. And it's rewarding to see the songs/albums/artists you do enjoy do well. That's just my thoughts on it anyway. I also agree with what abarthman said too. |
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Don't dissagree but the problem is that "Quality" is subjective and sales not so much so
![]() One persons "quality" artist is anothers artist from hell and you will never change someones opinion either way so debates about "quality" usualy just become point scoring arguments that go round in circles. ![]() Thats usualy when the sales argument gets thrown in because its easier to prove your favorite has sold a million albums more that the other artist than it is to convince a detractor that your artist creates better "quality" music
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Don't dissagree but the problem is that "Quality" is subjective and sales not so much so
![]() One persons "quality" artist is anothers artist from hell and you will never change someones opinion either way so debates about "quality" usualy just become point scoring arguments that go round in circles. ![]() Thats usualy when the sales argument gets thrown in because its easier to prove your favorite has sold a million albums more that the other artist than it is to convince a detractor that your artist creates better "quality" music ![]() I've never really understood why DS is like this, but there's not a lot that can be done about it. |
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Why do people attach so much importance to how many albums or singles their favourite artists make?
Great music is about so much more than sales, it is about artistic expression. Can we not have a debate about the quality of the music rather than how many copies of an album is sold? The only thing that sales measures is marketing and exposure, they have nothing to do with quality. Don't even get me started on people who use sales figures to boast that their favourite artist is better than everyone else's ![]() Obviously everyone thinks the music quality is the most important factor but for some, me included, sales are interesting and are vital to some acts as they could be dropped and not release anymore music in the future to enjoy.
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Hype about music sales (in a longer duration of time) of artists are important, because it's an measure of success and artistic. Let's talk about the classical periode e.g.1600(Monteverdi) till 1975(Dimitri Scostakowitsch) how many can you name of these composers, maybe 20 because these are the best and the well-known composers. I love classical music the most and can name approx 100, but I can assure you there are none of these 80 composers who are objective better than the 20. I think the people in 200 Years can name only a handfull artists of our time an they will be the best and the artists with the most sales.
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Hype about music sales (in a longer duration of time) of artists are important, because it's an messure of success and artistic. Let's talk about the classical periode e.g.1600(Monteverdi) till 1975(Dimitri Scostakowitsch) how many can you name of these composers, maybe 20 because these are the best and the well-known composers. I love classical music the most and can name approx 100, but I can assure you there are none of these 80 composers who are objective better than the 20. I think the people in 200 Years can name only a handfull artists of our time an they will be the best and the artists with the most sales.
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I can't name you the artists of the last 5 years who have had the most sales.
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I always find it slightly selfish when fans of an artist don't care about their sales lol. If you are a fan surely you would want them to do well? it''s almost like some fans want to keep their faves as their little secret and actually get upset if they 'take off'. I find that quite weird.
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I always find it slightly selfish when fans of an artist don't care about their sales lol. If you are a fan surely you would want them to do well? it''s almost like some fans want to keep their faves as their little secret and i find that quite weird.
There are thousands of musicians out there who never sell 1000 copies of an album but that does not make them any less great. Too many people seem to think sales are the be all and end all. |
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I always find it slightly selfish when fans of an artist don't care about their sales lol. If you are a fan surely you would want them to do well? it''s almost like some fans want to keep their faves as their little secret and actually get upset if they 'take off'. I find that quite weird.
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What a stupid way to look at it. Not being interested in sales figures doesn't mean you don't want them to do well. It means you're not concerning yourself with something you have zero control over and which doesn't make any difference to how you feel about the artist and their music. If you look at music as an art form rather than as a competition to see who can appeal to the most people and make the most money then sales don't even come into the equation. And if an artist really can't sustain a career as a musician (or at least carry on releasing music in some way) because of lack of sales/support then they're either not talented enough or their heart's not in it and it's time to do something else.
You seem to have completely misunderstood my point and this wouldn't be the first time either. And please calm down with the language used (first sentence). It's one thing getting your point across but yet another being abusive in doing so. I have a rule - I never say anything on the internet I wouldn't say to someone's face, maybe this is something you should consider adopting personally? You are now on ignore. it's for the best. |
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You seem to have completely misunderstood my point and this wouldn't be the first time either. And please calm down with the language used (first sentence). It's one thing getting your point across but yet another being abusive in doing so. I have a rule - I never say anything on the internet I wouldn't say to someone's face, maybe this is something you should consider adopting personally? You are now on ignore. it's for the best.
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1) Insecure music stans
2) Because we're in a 'consumer society' rather than a 'market economy' now http://www.cbpp.uaa.alaska.edu/afef/...g-Hedonism.htm |
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Obviously everyone thinks the music quality is the most important factor but for some, me included, sales are interesting and are vital to some acts as they could be dropped and not release anymore music in the future to enjoy.