[Noush]

If Max has his own storyline at Christmas and Derek is possibly leaving after the Joey/Lauren reveal, then isn't a more than good chance and stand to reason the Kat's lover is Jack?

He has no upcoming storylines and he is better suited to her...no?

[Scrabbler]

Why would Jack have an affair with Kat when he's been shagging tons of other single ladies? Plus why would he need to rent another flat, he lives alone.

[Identity]

Originally Posted by Scrabbler

Why would Jack have an affair with Kat when he's been shagging tons of other single ladies? Plus why would he need to rent another flat, he lives alone.

Jack has always had problems being faithfull and I am guessing he may be addicted to sex, or at least use it as a painkiller after Ronnie left. He still misses her, imo.

Kat is a lot like a black-haired Ronnie. Sure, no copy, but they are both very troubled for the same reasons, they said so themselves and are alsonot very different in character, only Kat is far more extrovert, where Ronnie was keeping it inside.

Ronnie also slept around in order to have that baby, remember? Sex was means to an end for her, just as it is not very special to Kat.

Kat and Jack bonded over losing a baby and could talk to each other, but not to their spouses. They did have chemistry.

As far as we know, Kat is hardly aware of what Jack is doing and with whom, so that is sorted then.

The flat is, apparantly, away from the Square. If Kat is seen going in and out of Jack's on house, especially with their reputations, people would talk and they'd be found out very soon.

So yeah, with Derek not really being the kind to "love" people and Max recently turning down Roxy because he wants to remain faithfull this time, I am guessing as well as hoping it is going to be Jack.

[Lousiana]

Originally Posted by Scrabbler

Why would Jack have an affair with Kat when he's been shagging tons of other single ladies? Plus why would he need to rent another flat, he lives alone.

Not to mention chasing after Sharon.

[AngelicPrincess]

Originally Posted by Identity

Jack has always had problems being faithfull and I am guessing he may be addicted to sex, or at least use it as a painkiller after Ronnie left. He still misses her, imo.

Kat is a lot like a black-haired Ronnie. Sure, no copy, but they are both very troubled for the same reasons, they said so themselves and are alsonot very different in character, only Kat is far more extrovert, where Ronnie was keeping it inside.

Ronnie also slept around in order to have that baby, remember? Sex was means to an end for her, just as it is not very special to Kat.

Kat and Jack bonded over losing a baby and could talk to each other, but not to their spouses. They did have chemistry.

As far as we know, Kat is hardly aware of what Jack is doing and with whom, so that is sorted then.

The flat is, apparantly, away from the Square. If Kat is seen going in and out of Jack's on house, especially with their reputations, people would talk and they'd be found out very soon.

So yeah, with Derek not really being the kind to "love" people and Max recently turning down Roxy because he wants to remain faithfull this time, I am guessing as well as hoping it is going to be Jack.

The flat is on the Square which is why Christian and a few others noticed how the fleas had come from there and not from Shirley. Kat was not away somewhere she was heading to it when she bumped into Christian who was right outside it it was near where Ray was stopped by the police officer.

So why get a flat when you live alone? The front door of your own place is shared by Kat's employee and her best friend is often there. That would not raise suspicion being seen going in there, however the random flat which is on the square would look suspicious. So logically it makes no sense to be Jack. Since having a flat there would make it more risky, unless of course you lived with other people...

[Lousiana]

Originally Posted by AngelicPrincess

The flat is on the Square which is why Christian and a few others noticed how the fleas had come from there and not from Shirley. Kat was not away somewhere she was heading to it when she bumped into Christian who was right outside it it was near where Ray was stopped by the police officer.

So why get a flat when you live alone? The front door of your own place is shared by Kat's employee and her best friend is often there. That would not raise suspicion being seen going in there, however the random flat which is on the square would look suspicious. So logically it makes no sense to be Jack.

If Kat took fleas back to the Vic why didn't Max, Jack or Derek take fleas back to their own homes? That didn't make sense to me.

[AngelicPrincess]

Originally Posted by Lousiana

If Kat took fleas back to the Vic why didn't Max, Jack or Derek take fleas back to their own homes? That didn't make sense to me.

Yeah I wondered about that too. But that flat is not away from where all her neighbours live so it would look very suspicious going in there rather than the flat with the shared door with Ray and (Kim who does not live there but often there) when it comes to Kat. So it has to be someone who lives with other people.
But if it was one of them you are right you would think it would have spread back to their houses. I will be impressed if it turns out to be none of them and it was out of the box. But bedbugs do spread like mad and you would need it treated. So if it is one then it is silly.

[rosiedevon]

Originally Posted by Scrabbler

Why would Jack have an affair with Kat when he's been shagging tons of other single ladies? Plus why would he need to rent another flat, he lives alone.

I thought Roxy and Amy were staying there after Phil kicked them out.

[milmol]

Originally Posted by AngelicPrincess

Yeah I wondered about that too. But that flat is not away from where all her neighbours live so it would look very suspicious going in there rather than the flat with the shared door with Ray and (Kim who does not live there but often there) when it comes to Kat. So it has to be someone who lives with other people.
But if it was one of them you are right you would think it would have spread back to their houses. I will be impressed if it turns out to be none of them and it was out of the box. But bedbugs do spread like mad and you would need it treated. So if it is one then it is silly.

BIB understatement i think
Apart from the lack of bedbugs...
If its Max - he wasnt in the vic at the time of the "jump over the bar text",
If its Derek - He stayed the night with Max the other night (drinking Jacks spirit cupboard dry) when Kat stayed the night at the bedsit
If its Jack - He lives alone and wouldnt need a sh@gpad

[vald]

Originally Posted by Scrabbler

Why would Jack have an affair with Kat when he's been shagging tons of other single ladies? Plus why would he need to rent another flat, he lives alone.

Smokescrene ?

He lives in the same house as Ray, Kat would not want to risk bumping into Ray or Kim inside the house every time she meets him. Also his brothers and Roxy are always calling in on him.

[elliecat]

Originally Posted by Scrabbler

Why would Jack have an affair with Kat when he's been shagging tons of other single ladies? Plus why would he need to rent another flat, he lives alone.

Because when Phil kicked Roxy and Amy out after the Ben stuff they went to stay with Jack before they moved in with Ftaboy.

[GeshEmpty]

It's funny how a lot of people still think it's only 1 person, it's more than 1 person..

[Tt88]

Originally Posted by Noush

If Max has his own storyline at Christmas and Derek is possibly leaving after the Joey/Lauren reveal, then isn't a more than good chance and stand to reason the Kat's lover is Jack?

He has no upcoming storylines and he is better suited to her...no?

That would suit eastenders if it were to be derek if he left. Kat would tell alfie its derek. Alfie would get fired up ready to fight him to then find out he had run off or died then alfie would think the cheating was over and run back to kat and forgive her. Then in a few years time eastenders can find someone else for kat to have a secret affair with starting the whole storyline again.

[AngelicPrincess]

Originally Posted by elliecat

Because when Phil kicked Roxy and Amy out after the Ben stuff they went to stay with Jack before they moved in with Ftaboy.

But wait a minute that was last week the affair has been going on for months. So unless Jack was psyhic he would not know Roxy and Amy were coming to stay? The flat was bought months before they stayed for like 2 days not even a week.

[los.kav]

Originally Posted by AngelicPrincess

But wait a minute that was last week the affair has been going on for months. So unless Jack was psyhic he would not know Roxy and Amy were coming to stay? The flat was bought months before they stayed for like 2 days not even a week.

They'd been staying with Jack since the Ben reveal. That's more than two days. In fact, last week Roxy only moved out of Jack's.

[AngelicPrincess]

Originally Posted by los.kav

They'd been staying with Jack since the Ben reveal. That's more than last week. In fact, last week Roxy only moved out of Jack's.

Right but the affair started months ago. So again unless he was psyhic how would he know they would be staying. And Sharon has been here a month and she shagged Jack Ben reveal night. The week we went back to normal episodes twice in the week he asked Sharon to stay with him instead of first Ian's then the B&B. So at the very most she has been there 3 weeks, I think it was more likely 2.
But let us say it was when it came out a few weeks ago. 3 months ago why would he get a new flat? He did not know this would happen? Mind you the way the writing is going would not surprise me if he is Mystic Meg and that is what happened to her after she disappeared off our screens.

[elliecat]

Originally Posted by AngelicPrincess

Right but the affair started months ago. So again unless he was psyhic how would he know they would be staying. And Sharon has been here a month and she shagged Jack Ben reveal night. The week we went back to normal episodes twice in the week he asked Sharon to stay with him instead of first Ian's then the B&B. So at the very most she has been there 3 weeks, I think it was more likely 2.
But let us say it was when it came out a few weeks ago. 3 months ago why would he get a new flat? He did not know this would happen? Mind you the way the writing is going would not surprise me if he is Mystic Meg and that is what happened to her after she disappeared off our screens.

Maybe because having Kat come over all the time would have drawn attention to what they were up to, who knows. Why would Derek need a flat Alice is out most of the day at work. It's all about keeping it secret when you have affairs, you don't go and visit the guy you are having an affair with round his flat when who knows could visit including your own husband and your friends partner lives upstairs. You do it in secret like Max did with Stacey and Tanya. Affairs are about being sneaky and secretive.

[teabag444]

I think it is Ray.

[los.kav]

Originally Posted by AngelicPrincess

Right but the affair started months ago. So again unless he was psyhic how would he know they would be staying. And Sharon has been here a month and she shagged Jack Ben reveal night. The week we went back to normal episodes twice in the week he asked Sharon to stay with him instead of first Ian's then the B&B. So at the very most she has been there 3 weeks, I think it was more likely 2.
But let us say it was when it came out a few weeks ago. 3 months ago why would he get a new flat? He did not know this would happen? Mind you the way the writing is going would not surprise me if he is Mystic Meg and that is what happened to her after she disappeared off our screens.

Personally I don't think it's Jack at all, but remember that he has a daughter who would be seeing him at the weekends and various days during the week, so he probably wouldn't want someone to have a key to his flat if his daughter's inside (not that Amy would say anything). Also, the flat above him, who he shares a stairs and a landing with, belongs to Ray and Kim, one of who is Kat's best friend and the other is her employee, so he might not want either of them seeing anything.

[doormouse1]

Originally Posted by milmol

BIB understatement i think
Apart from the lack of bedbugs...
If its Max - he wasnt in the vic at the time of the "jump over the bar text",
If its Derek - He stayed the night with Max the other night (drinking Jacks spirit cupboard dry) when Kat stayed the night at the bedsit
If its Jack - He lives alone and wouldnt need a sh@gpad

I think Roxy and Amy are there?

[teabag444]

I have a feeling that the lover could be Ray, unless someone can explain why not?

[Keyser Soze]

I'm finding this storyline quite dull. Kat's character has become a bit of a tart, so the fact she's sleeping around surprises no one. Don't really care who it is. Unless it's a woman, that would be a good twist.

It would be more dramatic if they'd brought in a very morally strict married couple and one of them was sleeping around.

[milmol]

Originally Posted by doormouse1

I think Roxy and Amy are there?

Yes - actually, reading back my original post it means Jack is the only possibility - and i've been convinced all along its Derek. Hey ho.

[NeutronstarNeko]

Originally Posted by teabag444

I have a feeling that the lover could be Ray, unless someone can explain why not?

Kat was on the phone to her lover when Ray walked in the room. He was eliminated weeks ago.

Its Derek. He dies at Xmas with the fireball, leaving Kat distraught but the way clear for her and Alfie to stay together

[teabag444]

Originally Posted by NeutronstarNeko

Kat was on the phone to her lover when Ray walked in the room. He was eliminated weeks ago.

Its Derek. He dies at Xmas with the fireball, leaving Kat distraught but the way clear for her and Alfie to stay together

Thank you. I must have missed that.