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Old 18-09-2012, 05:01
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I think The Simpsons was a fantastic series, it's still good, but it's really lost that thing that made it special.

Did it lose its way to become family friendly?

It just seems that the story lines are pandering to a certain audience, instead of being completely original and different.

Also, has the new animation taken away from it's character for anyone else?
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Old 18-09-2012, 05:49
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It should have ended on Season 10 or 11....12 at a push. It saddens me when I watch anything passed these seasons.
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Old 18-09-2012, 09:15
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I can't put my finger on what happened to it. It's more familly guy now then Simpsons though
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Old 18-09-2012, 10:16
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Family friendly?

No, The Simpsons lost its way because it ran out of good ideas about 12 years ago and didn't see that as a sign to stop.

The show was more family friendly back in its infancy than it is now.
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Old 18-09-2012, 10:56
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In my world it ended with Season 11's "Behind the Laughter"....but even that season had lots of duds. Kill The Alligator and Run for example is one of the worst....it would be nice to pick my favourite 8 of Season 11 and cherry pick 16 good episodes from seasons 12-20 to complete it.
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Old 23-09-2012, 22:07
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Family friendly? Anyone watching tonight's episode where Jimbo's girlfriend exposed a breast to Bart might disagree. I've been a supporter of new simpsons. The quality hasn't been as good, but it still has episodes of brilliance, but that was a step too far. I've never been shocked by the show & never expected to be, but this isn't Family Guy, it's The Simpsons!
Sad, very sad.
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Old 23-09-2012, 22:09
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I would guess it has such a worldwide following that the humour has become dumbed down to appeal to the global fan base.

Does anyone know how mcuh revenue the series generates outside the english speaking world?
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Old 23-09-2012, 22:14
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It should have ended years ago. Definitely been on way too long.
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Old 25-09-2012, 02:29
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^Okay, you were shocked by her flashing her breasts (he's seen them before, as have most) but have no problem with her snogging a minor, 10-years old? <_<

I just find it funny. THEY'RE JUST BREASTS. People seem to forget us humans used to walk around nude 24/7. I find Itchy and Scratchy much more offensive. It's not even funny. Maybe when you could still view it as parody, but some have been brain-hurtingly sick and actually surprised they get through the TV censors, especially when they often cut minor swears such as bastard.
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Old 25-09-2012, 03:05
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Personal opinion here, but I think the writers tried way too hard to try and keep up with current events and totally failed in doing so. They pushed it too much with uncreative stuff like the diePod in the episode where Grandpa Simpson wants to kill himself, among other things like Funtendo Zii. They also forgot how to end episodes properly.
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Old 25-09-2012, 09:41
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I would guess it has such a worldwide following that the humour has become dumbed down to appeal to the global fan base.

Does anyone know how mcuh revenue the series generates outside the english speaking world?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:16...ons_by_country this shows a list of where the program is shown, which countries and channels. It seems to be quite popular around the world. I have watched it in Spanish, Italian, French and German oh and Czech too.
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Old 25-09-2012, 18:01
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And quite why Dan C feels the need to be executive producer on some episodes I don't know. It seems that they allow the lead to produce is to inflate their already large sized egos some more. I would love to chat to the voice talents of this show and say when you are at home which you got by getting sick amounts of money do you ever watch the latest episodes and feel a tad guilty?


I say all the above as a big Simpsons fan.


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Old 26-09-2012, 13:12
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The episodes got too over the top and silly. It was always better with smaller scale stories more focused more on the characters who were actually all quite sweet in the early days.
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Old 26-09-2012, 15:09
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Some of the newer eps have very risque jokes. I've even looked at my gf in sheer disbelief.

Oh and the Banksy credit sequence wasn't really all that kid friendly either. If anything, they're going the other way.
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Old 26-09-2012, 16:17
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And quite why Dan C feels the need to be executive producer on some episodes I don't know. It seems that they allow the lead to produce is to inflate their already large sized egos some more. I would love to chat to the voice talents of this show and say when you are at home which you got by getting sick amounts of money do you ever watch the latest episodes and feel a tad guilty?


I say all the above as a big Simpsons fan.


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Why on earth should he feel even remotely guilty? The audience continues to be there in the US, where it counts, so the demand is there from Fox for them to keep making new episodes. If it was universally hated, as people often try to make out, it wouldn't still have a regular audience of 4-5 million. As such, as long as someone wants to keep paying him exorbitant amounts of money to keep doing it, why wouldn't he? I sure as hell would and so would you, I bet!

With that said, at this point I think they'd do well to finish on a round number and call it after Season 25.
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Old 26-09-2012, 16:56
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The episodes got too over the top and silly. It was always better with smaller scale stories more focused more on the characters who were actually all quite sweet in the early days.
I completely agree. Last night i actually watched the 'Lisa's First Word' episode from Season 4 and it struck me just how different the show is now to how it was back then in terms of storytelling. The moment where Lisa says Bart's name conveyed more emotion than any episode has managed in the past 14 years combined! If they go back to simpler and more relatable storylines like that then the show would improve immensely.
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Old 26-09-2012, 17:48
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Why on earth should he feel even remotely guilty? The audience continues to be there in the US, where it counts, so the demand is there from Fox for them to keep making new episodes. If it was universally hated, as people often try to make out, it wouldn't still have a regular audience of 4-5 million. As such, as long as someone wants to keep paying him exorbitant amounts of money to keep doing it, why wouldn't he? I sure as hell would and so would you, I bet! :p

With that said, at this point I think they'd do well to finish on a round number and call it after Season 25.
If I got millions of bucks for producing crap in a time of austerity I would feel guilty :-)

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Old 27-09-2012, 07:20
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The Simpson kind of went stale in 1997.

After it got to preacher and lost it's way with keeping up with the times.And it should have stopped after the movie,Seth Macfarlene said in a interview he did not want his cartoon,too run for a longtime.Becuase people would just get bord of Peter and the show would be come a image of it's former self.And that's what it has become people are now finding The Simpsons not hip old dryer and less irrelevant.

They did the episode with Lady Ga Ga recently and it was a flop.And the ratings for it were kind of half and half not like the ones from the early years.
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Old 27-09-2012, 23:26
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Pity this thread wasn't around in 1999. The early seasons of The Simpsons parodied what it's become. Such short memories, such deep barrels...
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Old 27-09-2012, 23:33
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The Simpsons started to see a decline half way into Season 10 but it wasnt fully noticeable until the 16th season which was when the number of bad episodes increased i do watch some of the new episodes though but not they are not as enjoyable or memorable as the older episodes.

My most favourite seasons of The Simpsons are Seasons 3 to 9 i think many hardcore Simpsons fan would also say the same too.
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Old 28-09-2012, 00:16
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Not too bothered about The Simpsons anymore, but I always make a note to watch the annual Treehouse of Horror special.

This year one of the segments is a Back to the Fututure parody in which Bart travels back to '74 and causes Marge to fall in love with Artie Ziff. Sounds pretty good.
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Old 28-09-2012, 00:25
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I think it lost the plot after so long,

As Lisa once said after a while a show can't have the same impact.
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Old 03-11-2012, 13:32
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Bump!

I only have Freeview so I'm a bit behind the curve on the Simpsons as I watch it on Channel 4 [/tightwad]

Last week there was a 'flashback' one where they went back to the 1990s with Homer and Marge as a couple without children. Other than the music (Homer forms a grunge band0, it didn't really work for me.
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Old 03-11-2012, 13:53
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The problem with the Simpsons is that they have done every story that is humanly possible for a cartoon and now they don't know what to do and they are treading water, as the producers and script writers pick up there handsome pay checks. The best thing to do is the end show before it becomes a complete embarrasement, as it is a shadow of the show it once was.
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Old 04-11-2012, 17:40
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And quite why Dan C feels the need to be executive producer on some episodes I don't know. It seems that they allow the lead to produce is to inflate their already large sized egos some more. I would love to chat to the voice talents of this show and say when you are at home which you got by getting sick amounts of money do you ever watch the latest episodes and feel a tad guilty?


I say all the above as a big Simpsons fan.


PJ
I understand the logic, but it would be better implied to bigger brands/people/industries than people that do voices on the Simpsons.
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