If people want to post their witty comments on a public forum in, you know, public, then a follow on comment is to be expected. Especially when the witty comments are about Forum Members.

I wasn't commenting directly on the lack of taste. I was pointing out the immaturity of it compared with the sharp criticism of immaturity made by that same person just a few minutes earlier. Sometimes a joke backfires. Take it on the chin.

Surely people who post criticisms of forum members (the Points of View thread) can tolerate a little bit of ribbing in return? Are they really such delicate little flowers?

I don't see why we should have a policy of ignoring this sort of thing and resorting only to alerts to the moderator. It's a discussion forum. We can discuss each others thoughts on things without needing to go running quietly to teacher. I tend to reserve Alert for cases where I think genuine nasty troublemaking is going on. Or direct personal abuse. Sometimes raising a quizzical eyebrow should be enough? Do people go running to the nearest police station as soon as they notice someone dropping litter?

However, seeing as you raise the topic of taste - I would hardly be surprised if people were getting fed up with the repeated grubby demands across numerous threads to see the companions naked. I was accused of "keeping a scrapbook" because of some imagined "grudge" for noticing this. I can't possibly imagine why I'd be bearing a grudge. I can't recall a single time where I've felt that person has got the better of me in any way, or upset me personally. (not, I should add, that I bear grudges even in those cases.) I wonder if I'm the only person to have noticed the pattern? The other people who notice it - do they all keep scrapbooks? Bear grudges? Or are they just rolling their eyes at a tiresome immature thing? It wouldn't be noticed if it wasn't plastered across so many threads, often in topics nothing to do with companion nudity.

Do people write to Points of View as soon as they dislike an episode of a TV show?

Oh, wait.

It just hacks me off that that's his only comment really, seriously hasn't Nuts magazine got some kind of "Women you'd like to see naked" forum? It's tedious, sexist and has no place in a DW forum IMO. Coming back here after a hiatus I'm really disappointed to see it unchecked. Thanks for calling him out on it I say.

I'm trying hard to be as neutral as possible in the way I've worded my posts in this thread because I can actually see two problems and it's difficult to say which is the greater.

On the one hand there's someone posting something inappropriate - on the other, there seems to be an element of personal feelings being expressed that are not only related to that posts.

As much as I agree that a forum is a place to debate and discuss, this forum is about Doctor Who and Torchwood and not a place to discuss other digitalspy members. Criticism of the contents of a post is one thing - but we have to avoid dragging arguments across from other threads or we end-up with personal squabbles that will kill multiple threads.

Problems with or between individuals that can't be resolved in private should be referred to the moderators. That's not "running to teacher" - it's just doing the right thing for the sake of all of the other members of the forum who don't want to get involved or have their use of the forum spoiled.

I don't believe it's fair to accuse someone of "scrap-booking" - or even to use that word as an insult. It's perfectly normal for someone to remember a post and be able to find it quickly using the forums search function and is hardly "proof" that they are in any way acting abnormally. I draw the line at someone specifically seeking "evidence" to throw at another member in an argument - but there's nothing about anything posted here to suggest anything of that sort happened - especially given that he posts quoted were so recently posted.

What is clear from the posts in this thread is that the person who posted the "naked photos" comment does not feel that they have done anything wrong and does not feel that they should have to refrain from posting along the same lines in future. With that in mind, arguing with or criticising them on the forum is pointless and will be endless. It's for that reason that I say that the correct thing to do is to allow the moderators to decide what - if any - action should be taken - otherwise this same discussion is just going to come up repeatedly and never be resolved - which is no fun for the rest of us.

Hey, Doctor Who Magazine!

Next month according to the Next issue bit on the back page.

There is no problem between individuals. I don't know why you have chosen to mention that? I rebutted it directly earlier, yet you raise it again?

Someone posted a joke about forum members being immature, then quickly posted an immature comment themselves. It was spotted and commented on in a brief humorous post. That's all. The responses referencing my initial comment are a bit weird. It almost seems like trying to distract attention from the very simple, minor, ignorable, observation made last night.

I'm not sure why you are providing advice on the matter.

I think I'll take the Power of 3 cover, the angels one would freak me every time I looked at it. I live near an old Victorian cemetery and I walk my pup there sometimes, i saw a headless angel on a grave there and thought "Thank god it has no head" that's how much they freak me out now!

Alerting the mods to a clear breach of forum rules is one thing and is usually an obvious call to make.

Commenting on a general pattern of behaviour that verges at the very least on bending such rules is certainly a reasonable approach frrom my reading of the Forum Rules
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/announcement.php?f=249

I personally think alerting the mods to some mild personal remark is pathetic. That action should be reserved for really offensive stuff, like racism or sexism. Merely commenting that a poster seems immature is merely a bit annoying.

You've lost me completely there.

I suggested that the mods might be altered if someone was **repeatedly** posting sexual or other comments that could cause offence - just so they could have a quiet word about what is acceptable - nothing at all to do with their posts being personal.

I'd far rather have questions about what is and isn't acceptable in posts addressed by the moderators than see too many threads like this - ones that start off being about something innocent and on-topic for a DW forum but end-up being members talking about each other.

If any one person knows they can disrupt any thread just by posting certain types of comment, then the entire forum will go to pot. If they can't be ignored they should be dealt with in a way that doesn't spoil threads or stop members reading and posting about the show.

It's not "pathetic" to use the services of the moderators rather than to have threads repeatedly turned into arguments between and about members - not about the Doctor Who. It doesn't matter who starts it, if they know they'll get a reaction and revel in it, they win everytime regardless of how right the people are who criticise them.

Criticism of the post may be justified - but it's dominating this thread and spoiling it in a way that the post itself didn't. If the comment was "merely annoying" - which is how I regard it - then it doesn't justify so many posts about it and the the member who posted it that the original topic is now completely lost.

I walk my dog past a house that backs directly onto an old cemetary. Headstones, crosses and angels etc right under the sitting room bay window. I'm rather jealous. Quietest neighbours around. The owners mow in a semi circle around the graves immediately around the window. Over the years the mown semicircle has got bigger and bigger, taking in more and more graves. It looks like they're making a gradual claim for the whole thing as garden.

Having read the comments about Resurrection of the Daleks in that thread, I'll be interested in the Nathan-Turner discussion. (or just wait for Chuff's analysis to crop up)

Hey, Doctor Who Magazine!

I think I'm with Bezmina on this one, I'd buy the Power of Three cover! *shudders*

Is it in the dead centre of town? Sorry should've resisted but didn't!

You're all missing the best bit- origin story for Mel (that'd be Bonnie Langford's character, not River Song) from Big Finish in January! Hurrah!

I expect they're waiting until after Christmas so as not to overload themselves with huge orders during the busy Christmas run up.

My post was not aimed at you, but referred to the fact that a mildly derogatory remark of mine implying Tom Tit was immature was removed by the mods from the Points of view thread last night.

I assume someone alerted them. Surely not Tom Tit himself who would "let things go" and "put it behind him"?

I am sorry that the thread has been derailed, but I agree 100% with Hammy's post. The constant postings about Karen and Jenna appearing nude, and other posts by Tom Tit are sexist, arrogant, patronising, ignorant and unpleasant, not 2merely annoying". My post of last night was merely annoying, but still too much for someone to take.

It's not keeping tabs on a particular poster, btw, to notice that of all the posters on the forum, his are the ones that almost always find offensive.

And I still think it's pathetic to go running to the mods for any little thing, like a snivelling kid.

Was there ever an intention to deal with that in the tv series? i.e. before the hiatus thing put paid to Colin doing any more?

At first I thought it was fun to just leap straight in with companion already installed. But even then I was thinking Hey! Where are the missing stories?

Given how many other "companions that never were" it will be intersting to see how Mel first took up with the Doctor. I wonder if we get an indication of how many adventures are missing?

I got Angels Take Manhattan cover today because I'm a subscriber.

Where are my pun consultants when you need them? I have no suitable reply. Massive pun fail.

BTW, does anyone buy all the covers? Completists?

How about "No - but people are dying to get in there" or "of corpse it is"?

That'll do nicely.

Bezmina - pretend I said that!

Will do : )