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Forest of the Dead - Two children at the end
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sohoguy
18-09-2012
Take a look

One's a ginger-haired girl.

The other's a dark-haired boy.

They couldn't be... Could they?

Amy and Rory?!
wildbill_hicock
18-09-2012
Originally Posted by sohoguy:
“Take a look

One's a ginger-haired girl.

The other's a dark-haired boy.

They couldn't be... Could they?

Amy and Rory?!”

Wow. Mind = blown
DavetheScot
18-09-2012
Originally Posted by sohoguy:
“Take a look

One's a ginger-haired girl.

The other's a dark-haired boy.

They couldn't be... Could they?

Amy and Rory?!”

Aaaaaargh! Like it isn't complicated enough!
CD93
18-09-2012
But is Caitlin Blackwood there?

The girl even has lights on her bed like Amy..
gareth1408
18-09-2012
That would have been some hell of a forward plan by The Moff if it's true!
CD93
18-09-2012
Originally Posted by gareth1408:
“That would have been some hell of a forward plan by The Moff if it's true! ”

Didn't he recently say he always knew what their final scene would be? Would suggest a link to the past.

( Moffat lies... Yadyada.. )
dhdefender
18-09-2012
That is almost .... shocking ....
sohoguy
18-09-2012
The only thing that makes me doubt it is when Moffat recently said that he'd changed the ending after writing the first draft (or something like that). Also is it tooooo clever for the audience to get? I mean, it was in 2008!!!

Whatever, I'm suddenly even more excited about Episode 5!
CD93
18-09-2012
It couldn't *be* them, short of yet more massively timey-wimey nonsense to explain why River still exists.. disembodied or not.

But an interesting fantasy of River's perhaps - her children that resemble her parents.
nebogipfel
18-09-2012
Originally Posted by sohoguy:
“Take a look

One's a ginger-haired girl.

The other's a dark-haired boy.

They couldn't be... Could they?

Amy and Rory?!”

Thank heavens for that. I thought you were going to say "The Rani and The Master?!" for a moment.

silentNate
18-09-2012
1.33
wildbill_hicock
19-09-2012
Originally Posted by sohoguy:
“The only thing that makes me doubt it is when Moffat recently said that he'd changed the ending after writing the first draft (or something like that). Also is it tooooo clever for the audience to get? I mean, it was in 2008!!!

Whatever, I'm suddenly even more excited about Episode 5!”

Bugger. You're right - probably too esoteric a reference to expect it to turn up as a major plot point now.
ea91
19-09-2012
I always thought it was interesting that River had 3 beds when everyone else who was saved had the same 2 children. Could the 3rd one be little Melody?

But I think they could just be River's children with the Doctor.
TheSarge
19-09-2012
Originally Posted by CD93:
“It couldn't *be* them, short of yet more massively timey-wimey nonsense to explain why River still exists.. disembodied or not.

But an interesting fantasy of River's perhaps - her children that resemble her parents.”

I thought the children were Donna's "children", maybe I haven't remembered the episode correctly.
Corwin
19-09-2012
Originally Posted by ea91:
“I always thought it was interesting that River had 3 beds when everyone else who was saved had the same 2 children. Could the 3rd one be little Melody?”

The Third Child is Cal.

As to the other two being Amy and Rory I seriously doubt it.

Unless of course it turns out Moffat only auditioned red heads for the part of Amy.

Originally Posted by TheSarge:
“I thought the children were Donna's "children", maybe I haven't remembered the episode correctly.”

They were Donna's children but they were also the children of the thousands of other parents saved on the computer.

To save memory the Computer just used the same two templates for every child born in the virtual world.
Shoppy
19-09-2012
Originally Posted by Corwin:
“To save memory the Computer just used the same two templates for every child born in the virtual world.”

Yeah, It's kind of like on old computer games where you pass the same bystander every two minutes.
alienpanda
19-09-2012
Just watched

there are 3 beds, 3 kids, and also, surely "amy" would be played by little amelia pond?
chuffnobbler
19-09-2012
Originally Posted by sohoguy:
“Take a look

One's a ginger-haired girl.

The other's a dark-haired boy.

They couldn't be... Could they?

Amy and Rory?!”

Ooer missus.

I would put nothing past S Moffat.


Originally Posted by nebogipfel:
“Thank heavens for that. I thought you were going to say "The Rani and The Master?!" for a moment.

”

NOOOOO! Rani and Monk please!
(I don't ever want to see the Master again).
sohoguy
19-09-2012
Yeah I think I got too excited haha.

It's probably not them. And someone else pointed out too that they were Donna's kids, I'd forgotten that.

Obviously they must be the Master and Omega.... *dances off*
chuffnobbler
19-09-2012
Originally Posted by sohoguy:
“Yeah I think I got too excited haha.

It's probably not them. And someone else pointed out too that they were Donna's kids, I'd forgotten that.

Obviously they must be the Master and Omega.... *dances off*”





What about Chancellor Flavia and Commander Maxil?
SillyBillyGoat
19-09-2012
Originally Posted by alienpanda:
“Just watched

there are 3 beds, 3 kids, and also, surely "amy" would be played by little amelia pond?”

It's extremely unlikely that these children were created as little Amy and Rory. However, Moffat could always return to this scene and now have them as Amy and Rory, this time having Caitlin Blackwood playing her. Although, I doubt this will happen.

Very interesting theory, however.
aisey
19-09-2012
Brilliant theory, though maybe a bit too out there to be true. Although...maybe the new 'cherub' angles not only send back in time but turn them into children again? Maybe...maybe not.
alienpanda
19-09-2012
Originally Posted by aisey:
“Brilliant theory, though maybe a bit too out there to be true. Although...maybe the new 'cherub' angles not only send back in time but turn them into children again? Maybe...maybe not.”

I can REALLY see this happening - with "Amy" ending up as "Amelia" again
aisey
19-09-2012
And would possibly explain the 'issued 1990' badge. Hmmmm.
MinkytheDog
19-09-2012
Originally Posted by alienpanda:
“I can REALLY see this happening - with "Amy" ending up as "Amelia" again”

I doubt it - but only because it would effectively have Rory and her marriage wiped out.

I said last year that we haven't finished with 11th Hour yet - and I still stand by that - but not as something that will take everything that's happened to her away.

Apart from the "theft" of the life she's lead, you'd have a serious problem with taking her back to the beginning because there are specific events - including at least one major fixed-point - that would be affected. It's only because of the adult Amy travelling with the Doctor in the Tardis that we have River Song - and she has to exist to kill the Doctor - and she has to have that "Time Lord" ability for that to happen. In many ways, Amy has become a fixed-point in her own right (though that has always been the biggest flaw with fixed-point - they require a chain of events preceding them).
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