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Sky Sports signs 3 long term cricket deals.
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Bhaveshgor
29-05-2013
Very odd tweet from bumble regarding Ireland.
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“@BumbleCricket with Ireland continuing to compete well, do you think more Test spots are a possibility? Even Div2?”

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“@irishbarry74 think you need speak2 Ireland ... Make sure it wot they want”

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“@BumbleCricket they been saying its the ultimate ambition for years - Blarney Army are ready!”

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““@irishbarry74: @BumbleCricket they been saying its the ultimate ambition for years - Blarney Army are ready!” Not what I hear ...#tvrights”

very odd tweet, especially considering ireland have been asking for test matches, and odi against test playing nations for years.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/cricket/2013...-test-cricket/
misbah pakistan captain has even backed ireland to be a test playing nation.
At least this tweet proves my point, that the tv rights might cost Ireland games against the big nations.
Alex2606
29-05-2013
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“if Ireland/Scotland want to play the test playing nations, they need to guarantee TV coverage, which sadly they can't since Sky are not interested if they are clashes with England games.

it should be noted, the warm up games are decided by ICC and host broadcaster , the warm up games are basically so the ICC and host broadcaster are guaranteed blockbuster games, England vs Australia, India vs Pakistan and India vs Australia, are typical warm up games in icc events, if they are not in the same group.

normally some teams would play 3 or 4 games, with one or two against the usual touring teams (counties and president teams) but with the ipl, most are arriving a week before the tournament starts, so it will be the usual 2 warm up games, against other test playing nations.
it should be noted that pakistan are playing 4 one day internationals against ireland and scotland, but sky are not interested in showing these games.”

The warm up games are decided between all the boards, teams and other relevant parties including the ICC and the broadcasters, not just those two.

South Africa are playing one game here and one in the Netherlands because they wanted a slightly different warm up. Some teams on the other hand wanted less travel and so are playing at one venue.

Originally Posted by LOSG:
“Defeats the purpose of a "warm up" game imo and shows everything that is wrong with modern cricket.

The warm up games should be quiet events in smaller stadia giving touring teams oppotunity to try players out, get into form and adjust to conditions.

It would also help smaller counties recieve some on the door revenue whilst allowing the public in certain parts of the country a closer look at international teams that they might not get otherwise. Hopefully this is looked at for the 2019 world cup.

I also don't agree with teams playing each other before a tournament, if they're both in the tournament regardless of the sport.”

It's been the case for a few tournaments now that national teams have played warm up games against other countries instead of against local teams. One of the main reasons is that they feel they can get a better standard of warm up game against them than other sides. Being in the middle of the county season, counties would generally rotate a few players, rest some of them and play a few youngsters (as they do in normal tourist matches) So while counties would get a decent crowd, the quality of the warm up for the international side wouldn't always be that great.

In these warm up games sides will have the benefit of being able to play against international quality players, but because they're not official ODI's they'll still be able to try out players and use 13 or 14 in a game.
Bhaveshgor
30-05-2013
Alex, the south africa vs netherlands games isn't a warm up game, it is a real ODI game, it counts towards the odi Ranking.
apart from that you are correct.
Alex2606
30-05-2013
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“Alex, the south africa vs netherlands games isn't a warm up game, it is a real ODI game, it counts towards the odi Ranking.
apart from that you are correct.”

I know, that's why it's a different warm up schedule!
Alex2606
03-06-2013
For those who are interested it looks set to be announced tomorrow that Channel Nine will retain rights to Australia's home internationals, while Network Ten will gain rights to domestic cricket including the Big Bash

http://www.espncricinfo.com/australi...ry/638845.html
Bhaveshgor
03-06-2013
Originally Posted by Alex2606:
“For those who are interested it looks set to be announced tomorrow that Channel Nine will retain rights to Australia's home internationals, while Network Ten will gain rights to domestic cricket including the Big Bash

http://www.espncricinfo.com/australi...ry/638845.html”

very good deal for CA, also CA have got a 25% increase on it's ESPN Star Sports deal.
they paid 1,100 crore Ruppes.
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/...cle2698092.ece
which is about $194,432,169 for 5 years
If I am right in thinking this is the first time CA have got more money from Channel 9 and it's domestic cricket, compared to its deal with Espn Star Sports.
for years Cricket Australia have been using overseas rights, to fund having cricket on Channel 9 and in FTA.

Although the bad news is that Channel 9 will be making serious losses to show cricket, and they will be making cuts to their comm team, the channel 9 coverage might even get worse.
Bhaveshgor
03-06-2013
Alex do you know how much Sky pays for england internationals.
found this odd tweet by Nick hoult
Quote:
“Cricket Australia's deal with Channel 9 shows benefit of competition among broadcasters. ECB watching with interest”

Channel 9 only spends $80 million a year for the rights, I swear Sky pays way more then that and the fact they got a similar deal for ESPN Star Sports mean ECB is getting far more for it's rights, In reality Cricket Australia were losing money by being forced to sell to an FTA broadcaster.
if the converter is right Channel 9 are paying £52 million a year, which is 3 times as much as before.
I might be wrong but don't ECB get around 80-90M each year from Sky.
And why would ECB be watching with interest, they already signed a long term contract, by the time it expires or the tender gets released, BT might not even be interested on the rights, none of the FTA channel will be interested on cricket.
mlt11
03-06-2013
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“Alex do you know how much Sky pays for england internationals.
found this odd tweet by Nick hoult

Channel 9 only spends $80 million a year for the rights, I swear Sky pays way more then that and the fact they got a similar deal for ESPN Star Sports mean ECB is getting far more for it's rights, In reality Cricket Australia were losing money by being forced to sell to an FTA broadcaster.
if the converter is right Channel 9 are paying £52 million a year, which is 3 times as much as before.
I might be wrong but don't ECB get around 80-90M each year from Sky.
And why would ECB be watching with interest, they already signed a long term contract, by the time it expires or the tender gets released, BT might not even be interested on the rights, none of the FTA channel will be interested on cricket.”

Sky pays approx. £70m per year for all ECB rights up to 2017 - looks like a very good deal now - obviously done with little competition and before BT were on the scene.

Sky also have option for 2018 and 2019 - price unknown but highly likely to be similar price - certainly won't be much higher.

ECB will be kicking itself that deal done with Sky so early - they didn't have to as current deal runs to end of 2013. And also that they gave extra option for 2018 and 2019.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/...ry/551654.html
Alex2606
03-06-2013
Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“very good deal for CA, also CA have got a 25% increase on it's ESPN Star Sports deal.
they paid 1,100 crore Ruppes.
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/...cle2698092.ece
which is about $194,432,169 for 5 years
If I am right in thinking this is the first time CA have got more money from Channel 9 and it's domestic cricket, compared to its deal with Espn Star Sports.
for years Cricket Australia have been using overseas rights, to fund having cricket on Channel 9 and in FTA.

Although the bad news is that Channel 9 will be making serious losses to show cricket, and they will be making cuts to their comm team, the channel 9 coverage might even get worse.”

Originally Posted by Bhaveshgor:
“Alex do you know how much Sky pays for england internationals.
found this odd tweet by Nick hoult

Channel 9 only spends $80 million a year for the rights, I swear Sky pays way more then that and the fact they got a similar deal for ESPN Star Sports mean ECB is getting far more for it's rights, In reality Cricket Australia were losing money by being forced to sell to an FTA broadcaster.
if the converter is right Channel 9 are paying £52 million a year, which is 3 times as much as before.
I might be wrong but don't ECB get around 80-90M each year from Sky.
And why would ECB be watching with interest, they already signed a long term contract, by the time it expires or the tender gets released, BT might not even be interested on the rights, none of the FTA channel will be interested on cricket.”

I'll do my best here.......although I can already see the misconceptions floating about on Twitter

When the latest ECB deal was announced it was reported that Sky paid in the region of £260 million, which works out at approx £65 million a year.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cri...TV-rights.html

In it's latest deal CA will be getting AU$100 million a year combined, which works out at about £63 million, so in that respect CA are getting just under what the ECB do a year currently.

Interestingly there's a piece in The Age which says that for their dollar, Nine will get a heavy say in scheduling. It uses the example of Perth hosting first tests as it provides a prime-time lead in to the rest of the summer.

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/crick...603-2nm9w.html

It is important to establish though that in comparison to over here, sports rights in Australia are generally accepted as loss making anyway. I was surprised when I first heard a discussion about this, but the value over there is in the market position they establish for the channel and the subsequent advertising/sponsorship portfolio that brings in for primetime schedules etc.

It's also important to establish that Network Ten threw a whole monetary war chest at this. They've lost AFL rights, missed out on NRL rights and currently their only sport of value is the upcoming Lions series and possibly the next Commonwealth Games. If they missed out on some form of cricket rights they would have been left in the sporting wilderness.

Contrary to what some are saying on Twitter the amount Ten are spending on the Big Bash has little to do with the value of the competition and a comparison to any T20 League here would be false.

While I'm sure the ECB would like competiton, given the rights they are already accumulating it is highly unlikely BT would be able to spend anywhere near the amount of money required to worry Sky in the way Network Ten have
djpower
03-06-2013
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business...-1226656526471

Not been mentioned here but the new affiliation agreement signed today between Win and Channel 9 its not going to be as big of a loss for channel 9. The new affiliation agreement is reported to have gone up from 33% to 39% for network programming which they are estimated to be worth $15 million per year. In the arrangement with WIN, Channel 9 is also going to take control immediately of the NWS-9 Adelaide and STW-9 Perth further down the track which is reported to be worth $350 million. so channel 9 spent $750 million today on rights and buying stations but will get a higher return from Win stations airing network programming.

If WIN use this new agreement for a excuses to produce more local programming then I will be happy but I have a feeling they they go down the path of replacing network programming with info commercials
Alex2606
03-06-2013
Originally Posted by djpower:
“http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business...-1226656526471

Not been mentioned here but the new affiliation agreement signed today between Win and Channel 9 its not going to be as big of a loss for channel 9. The new affiliation agreement is reported to have gone up from 33% to 39% for network programming which they are estimated to be worth $15 million per year. In the arrangement with WIN, Channel 9 is also going to take control immediately of the NWS-9 Adelaide and STW-9 Perth further down the track which is reported to be worth $350 million. so channel 9 spent $750 million today on rights and buying stations but will get a higher return from Win stations airing network programming.

If WIN use this new agreement for a excuses to produce more local programming then I will be happy but I have a feeling they they go down the path of replacing network programming with info commercials ”

Thanks for posting that link, made for a good read. It goes a large way to explaining why Nine were able to dive back in at the last minute and why they are looking at giving the Perth test a higher profile.

It also backs up a piece I read a few months which talked about a change in thinking in America where many FTA execs were looking at picking up sports rights as they provided a guaranteed audience compared to the high amount of new dramas/comedies which get cancelled or fail to air each year
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