for me its not about playing cleaner or nicer and i loved dr. wills game. But imo you have to draw a line somewhere and Dan crossed that line for me this season with his constant swearing on the bible, his dead grandfather and his wife.

If you dont believe in god i dont care if you swear on the bible but if you walk around with the bible all the time reading bible verses to the other hm every week and pretend to be THAT religious THAN it bothers me. Is god a joke to him? He is a teacher ... what kind of role model is this guy?

And i agree with all of you. If you play a dirty game like that you have to make sure to bring a player to the final with you that is hated like you or just a useless floater who did nothing to deserve the win.

Lying is a part of the game, but so is winning the people back who you betrayed and making them see things from your side of the story. If you can't do both then it's not that great of a game.

I'm sure lots of players would love to make deals with everyone, then happily stab them in their backs and assume they deserve their jury vote. But most of them know that leaving someone angry and bitter on the jury is not going to help your cause.
Part of a truly great game is removing yourself from blame, explaining why it was the only possible move to make at the time to advance your game, or if all else fails, make sure your up against someone more unlikeable than you. Afterall, if you're the only one in the game that everyone hates, then you have to actually ask yourself if you did play such a great game.

The interesting thing about this jury vote, is that the juror who was probably the least biased with their vote was Jenn. Because, despite disliking Ian way more than Dan, she still voted for Ian.

YES. i think that was one of the best final 2 in years! both deserving winners. but i'm glad Ian won it!

I voted no, because I felt Dan deserved to win more and can't help but feeling that the jury voted personally rather than objectively. That being said, it was a great final two and either would have been a good winner. I just feel that looking back, Dan will be remembered as the star of this series and rightly so.

4 HoH's and 1 pov for Ian.
He won on merit.

Dan will be remembered like Russell Hantz will, a great player without doubt but like Russell too brutal to earn a jury vote.

Russell better than Dan? Are you serious

If you're gonna like a villain .. it may as well be the daddy of them all

I'm so disappointed Dan didn't win. He was epic in his game and I have no problem with him swearing on whatever he cared to swear on. What I have a problem with is those that believed him again and again, those not capable of taking it even near the lengths Dan took it but being fine about riding on his coat tails and those lying, back stabbing and shitting on all and sundry but then suddenly developing morals and saying but Dan did it more than me, Dan was worse then me, Dan went too far

What's too far fgs Most of all though I have a problem with those voting personally. They were 'hurt' by Dan's game and intsead of seeing and voting regarding how marvellously he played they vote to punish him.

I'm with Janelle, this is a travesty.

I was quite surprised how poorly Dan handled the jury. Ian annihilated him, putting him on the spot for which he had no answer. It was rather amusing especially after Dan had first tried to humiliate Ian by shaking his head at what he had to say and interrupting him.

Dan spent his first chance to talk to the jury telling them his game was unnecessary and shameful. lol If they were going to vote for him, that would have made them think twice. But then he later backtracked and said it was the only way he could survive. He obviously thought he didn't need to bring his A-game against Ian, but boy did he need to.