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Old 22-09-2012, 20:44
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Whilst it's good that he got a second chance as he wasn't comfortable with the song choice he had to perform, surely it's unfair on the others that someone who made an absolutely mess of their performance got through based on their audition. What is the point of them even performing at bootcamp if someone is given a chance because their audition was good. Tasha Leigh for example was much better at her song than Jahmene at his yet because her audition wasn't stand-out, she got cut?

Do you agree with him being given a chance based on his audition?
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Old 22-09-2012, 20:48
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Completely agree : messing up your bootcamp performance should be enough to see you eliminated.

But the strong suspicion is that the producers have already decided who will progress in bootcamp even before it gets underway and it is therefore a sham event,
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Old 22-09-2012, 20:49
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Completely agree : messing up your bootcamp performance should be enough to see you eliminated.

But the strong suspicion is that the producers have already decided who will progress in bootcamp even before it gets underway and it is therefore a sham event,
Agreed..he should have been sent home..
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Old 22-09-2012, 20:50
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Whilst it's good that he got a second chance as he wasn't comfortable with the song choice he had to perform, surely it's unfair on the others that someone who made an absolutely mess of their performance got through based on their audition. What is the point of them even performing at bootcamp if someone is given a chance because their audition was good. Tasha Leigh for example was much better at her song than Jahmene at his yet because her audition wasn't stand-out, she got cut?

Do you agree with him being given a chance based on his audition?
Yeah. The audition is the first impression, and it showed his pipes, they know what he's capable of.
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Old 22-09-2012, 20:51
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Yeah. The audition is the first impression, and it showed his pipes, they know what he's capable of.
Yes but surely if that's the case, then they could use his audition to justify him being given numerous chances if he were to mess up again?
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Old 22-09-2012, 20:53
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Yes but surely if that's the case, then they could use his audition to justify him being given numerous chances if he were to mess up again?
They're really admitting that bootcamp is a cosmetic exercise. They claim it's a ruthless make or break event, but Jahmene completely messes up and yet he is still in the competition.
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Old 22-09-2012, 20:54
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Dont think anybody should be given a 2nd chance at bootcamp.. no matter who you are.. if you mess up.. you eithe rhope you get a record deal or come back next year..

so far i wouldve sent home.. jehmene, lucy praggen.. to name but 2....
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Old 22-09-2012, 20:54
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The problem with X-Factor is that basically you're auditioning to be a puppet, & sing songs that others have written, which may not be your niche - that's why you need to be versatile. Artists who write their own songs & are in charge of their own careers, don't have this problem because they know what their voices are suited to & that's the only material that they perform.
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Old 22-09-2012, 20:56
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Dont think anybody should be given a 2nd chance at bootcamp.. no matter who you are.. if you mess up.. you eithe rhope you get a record deal or come back next year..

so far i wouldve sent home.. jehmene, lucy praggen.. to name but 2....
Definitely : both were dreadful.

But as I said above, it looks as if the producers had already earmarked them to progress, meaning there is nothing they could do, no matter how bad, to see themselves eliminated.
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Old 22-09-2012, 21:06
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Yeah. The audition is the first impression, and it showed his pipes, they know what he's capable of.
Translated: "It doesn't matter how you perform, your audition was brilliant so you're going through no matter how good/bad you perform here in the group performance."

Might as well let them just skip the group performance then and let them straight through to the next stage.
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Old 22-09-2012, 21:06
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This is why I believe that bootcamp is biased towards those who can sing certain chosen songs. The judges knew what Jahmene's singing style was, yet expected that he'd be able to perform Moves Like Jagger in the way they wanted. Do they ever ask any auditionee to sing Jahmene's style of song? it only goes to show that it's not about the voice, but the image.
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Old 22-09-2012, 21:10
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Translated: "It doesn't matter how you perform, your audition was brilliant so you're going through no matter how good/bad you perform here in the group performance."

Might as well let them just skip the group performance then and let them straight through to the next stage.
Though they were genuinely gutted Jahmene was so bad. That wasn't part of the script (and they tried to turn it into a positive by showing him looking forlorn and wiping away tears).
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Old 22-09-2012, 22:02
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Just watched him sing online, it was a completely obtrusive reversal of fortune compared with his original audition. He'll need to redeem himself after that performance, hence it was outstandingly bad.
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Old 22-09-2012, 22:06
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Translated: "It doesn't matter how you perform, your audition was brilliant so you're going through no matter how good/bad you perform here in the group performance."

Might as well let them just skip the group performance then and let them straight through to the next stage.
Exactly . There was no point to the auditions in that case . Two went through tonight who messed up completly
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Old 22-09-2012, 22:09
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I can't see how he can get far in the competition, he has a good voice, but is limited in what kind of songs he can perform and has zero charisma. Would have been better to let him go
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Old 22-09-2012, 22:15
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I must be the only person who hated his first audition never mind that crap bootcamp performance - he shouldnt be in the competition
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Old 22-09-2012, 22:19
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He is the best male act in the competition he 100% deserved a second chance.
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Old 22-09-2012, 22:20
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The judges and producers aint stupid. They know how good he is. Its like dropping messi for a cup final because he performed bad in the semi , Yeah genius
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Old 22-09-2012, 22:21
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He is the best male act in the competition he 100% deserved a second chance.
Somebody with a brain
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Old 22-09-2012, 22:23
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He's the winning act for me so far. I still think he is the chosen one this year.
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Old 22-09-2012, 22:24
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The judges and producers aint stupid. They know how good he is. Its like dropping messi for a cup final because he performed bad in the semi , Yeah genius
So why have bootcamp then ?
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Old 22-09-2012, 22:27
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So why have bootcamp then ?
Really? Its all done for tv
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Old 22-09-2012, 22:28
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He is the best male act in the competition he 100% deserved a second chance.
Whilst I agree that he's the best act in the Boys category, doesn't it make bootcamp a joke?

No point him being there if they're going to allow him to continue regardless of how he performs.
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Old 22-09-2012, 22:28
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Really? Its all done for tv
Yes I was aware of that TY .I am saying its a joke if they dont even try to hide who they are putting through anyway even if they mess up big time
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Old 22-09-2012, 22:29
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He is the best male act in the competition he 100% deserved a second chance.
True, but it would certainly be more acknowledgeable if he prepared for that song to an efficient degree, he didn't and the conclusion was a total mess.
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