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Old 22-09-2012, 22:52
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A group who were rejected asked for the reason why. They were told that decisions were made based on the boot camp performance.

I counted at least 3 people who were crap, were told that they were crap and still passed through to the next day.

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Old 22-09-2012, 22:55
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Yeah, because... oh forget it.
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Old 22-09-2012, 22:55
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Lucy Spraggen was crap in Bootcamp, that Farrah girl sung better than her but got sent home?? So it seems like anyone who has a story/was shown during the auditions will get saved even though they weren't good.
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Old 22-09-2012, 23:03
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Right, basically, it's always based on the Boot Camp performance apart from when it's not. Geddit?
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Old 22-09-2012, 23:04
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Seems pointless to me not to put acts through on the basis of everything they've shown so far, which accounts well enough for Lucy (who interests me more than anyone else this year) and Jahmene (who has a rare voice but may or may not have any star potential, and stank mightily in the bootcamp performance we've seen).
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Old 22-09-2012, 23:05
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They are using the same rules they do for sing offs.
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Old 22-09-2012, 23:07
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Tonight's was full of awfulness, tomorrow will be full of miraculous improvements.

After another stern talk from Gary no doubt.
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Old 22-09-2012, 23:10
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Not sure how they can justify either sending home 70 people from bootcamp without even hearing them perform. Isn't it possible that some of these acts could have improved since the audition?
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Old 22-09-2012, 23:11
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Not sure how they can justify either sending home 70 people from bootcamp without even hearing them perform. Isn't it possible that some of these acts could have improved since the audition?
They know the characters they want for the lives before bootcamp even starts.
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Old 22-09-2012, 23:22
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Not sure how they can justify either sending home 70 people from bootcamp without even hearing them perform. Isn't it possible that some of these acts could have improved since the audition?

It is an appalling way to treat anyone. A lot of them will have travelled a long way and maybe missed out on other stuff to be there. Sickening how they can go through all that and be sent home without a proper chance
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Old 23-09-2012, 01:24
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It is an appalling way to treat anyone. A lot of them will have travelled a long way and maybe missed out on other stuff to be there. Sickening how they can go through all that and be sent home without a proper chance
I would have sympathy except by now everyone should be wise to the format and expect to be used, and put down stuff like the above as the "cost of doing business" with the show.
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Old 23-09-2012, 01:28
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Not sure how they can justify either sending home 70 people from bootcamp without even hearing them perform. Isn't it possible that some of these acts could have improved since the audition?
i thought this..and when the bloke said i got 4 yes's and 4 good comments.. for what... was very surprised that got editted into the show.. someone will be in trouble tomorrow!

all i can say is they must have stunk the house out.. if tonights performances were anything to go by...
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Old 23-09-2012, 01:34
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Right, basically, it's always based on the Boot Camp performance apart from when it's not. Geddit?
Exactly what I said to my family when we were watching. The "we will give you another shot" routine gets old very quickly. I don`t see the point of the "grouping up" stage of the x factor, it seems pointless. I don`t know what it proves to the judges and us that they get on with ramdom people or not I must be missing the point
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Old 23-09-2012, 01:53
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They know the characters they want for the lives before bootcamp even starts.
And the funny thing is they're scarcely even trying to conceal this.
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Old 23-09-2012, 01:56
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They know the characters they want for the lives before bootcamp even starts.
I would say the auditions
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Old 23-09-2012, 01:58
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I would say the auditions
Definitely in the case of the invited auditionees.
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Old 23-09-2012, 05:02
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It's quite hilarious that we had to sit through an hour show each week to be given about two acts throughout that all magically made it to the final.

Fixed?

What a jokel

This show has become more about the judges than any of the acts...

Total farcical and exceeding itself in the days of Cowell's then farcical show that some of us knew then how he was trying to domineer the market.

Shame on those who tried to defend him then.
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Old 23-09-2012, 05:19
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I don`t see the point of the "grouping up" stage of the x factor
Perhaps it's so they can see which singers work well in a group, for when they inevitably bring back rejected soloists to make new groups in the style of One Direction, Rhythmix etc!
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Old 23-09-2012, 05:30
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Perhaps it's so they can see which singers work well in a group, for when they inevitably bring back rejected soloists to make new groups in the style of One Direction, Rhythmix etc!
So don't you find it a tad strange that the ones that excelled and got through to the finals all happened to be amongst those that we'd never seen at all in the auditions? I.e. all pitched against perfect strangers to us the audience?

The whole show was fixed and emotionally centred towards those we'd already seen as favourites to get through their finals...............even if they were terrible on the day and engineered to be up against others that were as bad as they were to make it look like they just had a bad day.

The whole show is fixed with whom they wanted through regardless of the charade of elimination.
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Old 23-09-2012, 06:07
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So don't you find it a tad strange that the ones that excelled and got through to the finals all happened to be amongst those that we'd never seen at all in the auditions? I.e. all pitched against perfect strangers to us the audience?

The whole show was fixed and emotionally centred towards those we'd already seen as favourites to get through their finals...............even if they were terrible on the day and engineered to be up against others that were as bad as they were to make it look like they just had a bad day.

The whole show is fixed with whom they wanted through regardless of the charade of elimination.
How is it fixed though, it's a entertainment show. If you actually had proof of them fixing voting figures etc then yeah, you have a point, but otherwise...
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Old 23-09-2012, 07:15
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How is it fixed though, it's a entertainment show. If you actually had proof of them fixing voting figures etc then yeah, you have a point, but otherwise...
Here we go with the 'it's an entertainment show' excuse.

Have you noted that no voting revenue has been asked of the public up to now?

So why wouldn't it be fixed up until this point to suit?

Sure when it gets to voting revenue, the show would come into disrepute, but if you seriously think shows like this aren't carefully arranged to suit, in otherwords fixed, then you're the one deluded.
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Old 23-09-2012, 08:27
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you knew who was going to go through before a note was sung by the way the camera honed in on the chosen ones.
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Old 23-09-2012, 08:30
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Perhaps it's so they can see which singers work well in a group, for when they inevitably bring back rejected soloists to make new groups in the style of One Direction, Rhythmix etc!
I really hope they avoid that this year, they have some good groups, a manufactured group again would be a bit unnecessary.
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Old 23-09-2012, 08:34
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The whole boot camp section is a completely flawed idea in every way.
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Old 23-09-2012, 12:16
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I think the biggest farce is Jade Richards, just watched her audition shown only on ITV extra factor and Gary said she was the main contender to win the competition and she hasn't featured on the main show at all.
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