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Old 23-09-2012, 03:43
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Lucy Spraggans song Tea and Toast if you listen to the Lyrics is one of the most depressing song i have ever heard . it wallows in dark miserable images of working class life, The Song could be summed up in these words " Life is Sh-t and Then You Die" .
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Old 23-09-2012, 08:58
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Same as Ed Sheeran's "A Team" then.
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Old 23-09-2012, 10:03
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It's is vaguely Multi Python in the relentless bad luck and tragedy that befall the main character in the song, But unlike Python its done in all seriousness ,. If i met Lucy today i'd say "Cheer up love, have a biscuit this toast is doing you no good at all ". She should stay away from subjects like this, Don't know anybody in the music industry who made money from peddling songs about relentless misery and bad luck . The song is cleverly written but if you listen to it to often it would drive you to Drink or Worse
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Old 23-09-2012, 10:14
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Don't know anybody in the music industry who made money from peddling songs about relentless misery and bad luck . The song is cleverly written but if you listen to it to often it would drive you to Drink or Worse
Yeah. She should sing jolly stuff like Morrisey.
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Old 23-09-2012, 10:21
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Yeah. She should sing jolly stuff like Morrisey.
Hahahaha, love it!!
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Old 23-09-2012, 10:32
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Yeah. She should sing jolly stuff like Morrisey.
She is not Lenard Cohen she dosent have enough talent to get away peddling this sort of Downer Song . On the other hand she will do wonders for the sales of Antidepressants
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Old 23-09-2012, 12:22
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I love it I actually find in between the beginning and end points of the deaths of his mother and wife, there's a lot about how beautiful life is, even though the man in the song obviously had a very simple life. And the chorus I think represents how even when life is at its lowest points, with love, it'll always get better.
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Old 23-09-2012, 13:08
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I love it I actually find in between the beginning and end points of the deaths of his mother and wife, there's a lot about how beautiful life is, even though the man in the song obviously had a very simple life. And the chorus I think represents how even when life is at its lowest points, with love, it'll always get better.
To much Gloom and far to little to little humor in this song . why write a song about a man whose life starts badly then dosen't real get any better all through his life , This song is devoid of hope . most listener would rather be inspired to do something with their lives than wallow in the hopelessness of mundane everday life . Songs like the Scripts " Hall of Fame" for example tells the listener that they can succeed in life no matter where they come from or what their circumstances.
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Old 23-09-2012, 13:14
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I love it I actually find in between the beginning and end points of the deaths of his mother and wife, there's a lot about how beautiful life is, even though the man in the song obviously had a very simple life. And the chorus I think represents how even when life is at its lowest points, with love, it'll always get better.
Absolutely. It's wrung a few tears from me, but I was smiling as I shed them. If the song has a message, it's that being around for one another and being here at all are wonderful despite life being over all too soon and not what we'd like it to be. But I guess it would tend to undermine the celebrity culture bubble of endless youth and fame and glamour and consumerism, for anyone who gets tricked into trying to live there.

Well, that's my two-penn'orth. Defending Lucy against a charge of being too depressing makes a nice enough change from defending her against being just a comedian. She writes songs about life as she sees it, sometimes the funny or embarrassing details, sometimes stuff that goes wrong, sometimes trying to take in the whole picture. All seems pretty reasonable to me
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Old 23-09-2012, 13:22
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There's no doubt that she is a talented songwriter, but I still don't see how she fits into the show. Surely her biggest selling point as an artist would be that she's a "credible musician", something that being on the show will rob her of a little?

Tea and Toast is a beautiful song though.
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Old 23-09-2012, 13:24
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By the by, bet they edit out the depressing parts of this song on tonights show
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Old 23-09-2012, 13:25
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By the by, bet they edit out the depressing parts of this song on tonights show
I hope not personally. The song could lose a lot of meaning depending on what parts of it they edit out
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Old 23-09-2012, 13:26
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Surely her biggest selling point as an artist would be that she's a "credible musician", something that being on the show will rob her of a little?
Wouldn't think so myself. Being a credible musician is something truly credible musicians and their listeners don't get fussed over. Being a heard musician beats being an unheard one though
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Old 23-09-2012, 13:31
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By the by, bet they edit out the depressing parts of this song on tonights show
I expect we'll only get some sort of a snippet and the judges' reactions. Can't nicely condense birth, life and death into much less than four and a half minutes, and there's no way they'll spare time enough from the advertisement breaks to show all that
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Old 23-09-2012, 13:34
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Why is it that X Factor contestants MUST be able to sing Britney, Take That, or Adele songs to be on the show?! Surely someone who writes their own stuff and has their own unique style is better that an Adele impersonator?!

Course she fits into the show. I think it's wrong that they have 'Britney' weeks and things like that because some people can't sing Britney.
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Old 23-09-2012, 13:37
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I've a feeling everyone is going to be raving about her after tonight's show and saying how original and what a talent she is.

But it will be very hard to sustain this on the live shows : there is a limit to how often she will be able to wow the viewers.
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Old 23-09-2012, 14:08
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I've a feeling everyone is going to be raving about her after tonight's show and saying how original and what a talent she is.

But it will be very hard to sustain this on the live shows : there is a limit to how often she will be able to wow the viewers.
The first live show could be a Lucy Spraggan themed show, all the contestants would have to sing one of Lucy's songs , O wait that might be a bit embarrassing if all the others sang Lucy's songs better than Lucy . Damn plan B then . what is plan B ?????????????
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Old 23-09-2012, 14:10
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It's is vaguely Multi Python in the relentless bad luck and tragedy that befall the main character in the song, But unlike Python its done in all seriousness ,. If i met Lucy today i'd say "Cheer up love, have a biscuit this toast is doing you no good at all ". She should stay away from subjects like this, Don't know anybody in the music industry who made money from peddling songs about relentless misery and bad luck . The song is cleverly written but if you listen to it to often it would drive you to Drink or Worse
Bit of an exaggeration there You've evidently never heard ANY blues songs then, or Leonard Cohen, Radiohead, Nick Cave, Jeff Buckley, Nick Drake, Joy Division, Bob Dylan, Tom Waits. Admittedly, the pop charts are not exactly full of these artists, but they've all had very long and successfuil careers, long after the flavour of the month happy clappy artists have faded into obscurity.

I don't think X factor is the right show for Lucy Spraggans though. She's a proper artist and won't shine unless she's performing her own material.
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Old 23-09-2012, 14:15
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The only thing unique about Lucy Spraggan's style is that she's a girl who shops at Jacamo.
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Old 23-09-2012, 14:28
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Bit of an exaggeration there You've evidently never heard ANY blues songs then, or Leonard Cohen, Radiohead, Nick Cave, Jeff Buckley, Nick Drake, Joy Division, Bob Dylan, Tom Waits. Admittedly, the pop charts are not exactly full of these artists, but they've all had very long and successfuil careers, long after the flavour of the month happy clappy artists have faded into obscurity.

I don't think X factor is the right show for Lucy Spraggans though. She's a proper artist and won't shine unless she's performing her own material.
I own Dylan ,Cohen and Tom Watts cds . Lucy don't quite have the talent of those guys to carry off what she may have being trying to do and it ends up being more the " Miseries " than the " Blues " . I see her as a Billy Bragg wannabe
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Old 23-09-2012, 14:33
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I own Dylan ,Cohen and Tom Watts cds . Lucy don't quite have the talent of those guys to carry off what she may have being trying to do and it ends up being more the " Miseries " than the " Blues " . I see her as a Billy Bragg wannabe
Seriously it's gotten pretty blatent you're basically just pulling new statements out of your ass to support your dislike of Lucy.
"No one makes money from writing songs about misery."
"Oh wait, no, people do. I know that. Duh. But Lucy can't because she doesn't have the talent."
I think you've illustrated you're not a Lucy fan by now to be honest...
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Old 23-09-2012, 14:42
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Thing is, those comparisons are a bit odd because she hasn't shown us any introspective gloom yet, just a few quite optimistically delivered songs about various aspects of life, which don't always follow the usual templates of being about fancying someone or getting together or being dumped or cheated on or having it all or... oh, I'm sure there are a few more subjects if I could be bothered to think of 'em...
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Old 23-09-2012, 15:00
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if Lucy really wants to write songs about hard times, but in a way that people can still listen to over and over again she should listen to Kris Kristofferson
( 1 ) Help me make it through the night
( 2) For the good times
( 3) Sunday morning coming down
( 4 ) Me and Bobby McGee
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Old 23-09-2012, 15:23
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if Lucy really wants to write songs about hard times, but in a way that people can still listen to over and over again she should listen to Kris Kristofferson
( 1 ) Help me make it through the night
( 2) For the good times
( 3) Sunday morning coming down
( 4 ) Me and Bobby McGee
There's just endless variety in how we humans take things. I'm more or less familiar with three of those songs, but can't recall ever deliberately choosing to hear any of them, or finding any of them moving me to thought or feeling the way Tea and Toast has. Then, one of the songs I go to most often of all is Jackson C. Frank's Marlene, which is more or less a love song written to one of his classmates from when he was nine years old and the schoolroom furnace blew up, killing her and some few of the others and maiming him for life. Ought to be depressing but I'd never call it that, though it's about as painful a song as I know, and I guess that can look to be quite a fine distinction.

I'd rather Lucy Spraggan carried on being Lucy Spraggan. Not everyone's going to like what she does.
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Old 23-09-2012, 15:24
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This is how it should be done http://youtu.be/-axr23-WP0E
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