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Old 24-09-2012, 18:10
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If lucy spraggen make it to the live shows I have a feeling the judges are going to love her for the first few weeks and very quickly get bored and start hating on everything she does this happened last year with Janet Devlin

even before the girl messed up lyrics the judges after first weeks starting to realise to them the voice was not that strong well newsflash they put her through etc.

I am a fan of lucy but she may crash and burn why didn't she go on BGT.

also if she made the final would they allow last night to be her winners single because she probably be guranted the win.

what do others think?
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Old 24-09-2012, 18:14
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got to defend janet.. dont think it was her voice that was the problem... think it was she hated living in the house with all the partying going on.. she missed home.. was gived disgraceful song choices.. suffered badly from stage fright.. her talent is not in question.. for me anyway..

lucy.. she is a very talented writer.. full stop .. think she could write anything.. do i think she can sing? yes.. her own songs.. do i think she can sing a cover.. like the show usually requires.. no..
will the public vote to keep her in... without a doubt... will she make the final.. maybe!
should she make the final? nope! not strong enough vocally for a singing contest..
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Old 24-09-2012, 18:17
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got to defend janet.. dont think it was her voice that was the problem... think it was she hated living in the house with all the partying going on.. she missed home.. was gived disgraceful song choices.. suffered badly from stage fright.. her talent is not in question.. for me anyway..

lucy.. she is a very talented writer.. full stop .. think she could write anything.. do i think she can sing? yes.. her own songs.. do i think she can sing a cover.. like the show usually requires.. no..
will the public vote to keep her in... without a doubt... will she make the final.. maybe!
should she make the final? nope! not strong enough vocally for a singing contest..
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BIB - I wasn't implying her voice is bad or questioning her talent but this to me was where judges changed their minds when they got bored of her voice
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Old 24-09-2012, 18:20
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should she make the final? nope! not strong enough vocally for a singing contest..
Is this a singing contest? We keep being told that it is a contest to find the next, big, recording artist. Does Lucy deserve a shot at that? I think so. The simple fact that she already has a big fan base before the start of Live Shows is testament to her likeability and, if she gets through to Live, I think Tulisa is enough of a games-player to not force her to do stuff that doesn't work for her. If this means singing her own material then so much the better.
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Old 24-09-2012, 18:22
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...not strong enough vocally for a singing contest....
I agree. But it isn't one.

Big difference, I think, is that Janet was seen as potentially a big pop artist, and came under a lot of pressure to fit that mould. Lucy's style and voice are far enough away from the pop scene to persuade even the silliest of producers that they'd get nowhere by trying to take her down that route.
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Old 24-09-2012, 18:25
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There seems to be one of front runners every year that divides opinion such as Janet,Diana,Cher and Danyl unfortunately for her Lucy seems to be that act the act to divide opinion this year as some people have said in the past the "marmite act".
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Old 24-09-2012, 18:26
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Is this a singing contest? We keep being told that it is a contest to find the next, big, recording artist. Does Lucy deserve a shot at that? I think so. The simple fact that she already has a big fan base before the start of Live Shows is testament to her likeability and, if she gets through to Live, I think Tulisa is enough of a games-player to not force her to do stuff that doesn't work for her. If this means singing her own material then so much the better.
dont think they will ever be able to call it a singing contest again or spout the line were looking for the next big thing.. with the 24 they have put through... lets just say there is 1 or 2 that dont fall intot hat catagory.. hey i like lucy.. but if i was a judge she wouldve gone home group stage of bootcamp.. as nicole said its not called bootcamp for nothing....
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Old 24-09-2012, 18:46
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dont think they will ever be able to call it a singing contest again or spout the line were looking for the next big thing.. with the 24 they have put through... lets just say there is 1 or 2 that dont fall intot hat catagory.. hey i like lucy.. but if i was a judge she wouldve gone home group stage of bootcamp.. as nicole said its not called bootcamp for nothing....
I couldn't agree less. Sure, there are some abysmal acts left in for the tween appeal: The GHD3 and Poison Chalice for example. There's also Rylan, Odin save us. That said, the rest are pretty solid and way better than either of the two previous years I've seen; even the Overs have got three good singers in Chris, Kye and Melanie.
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Old 24-09-2012, 18:49
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They've both got a style/ niche which doesn't fit into the different theme every week of the XF.

Unfortunately unless you're really an everyman type of singer then the XF isn;t for you - it would be if it wasn't for the theme weeks which can basically kill off an act in a few weeks if it doesn't go their way
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Old 24-09-2012, 18:54
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I couldn't agree less. Sure, there are some abysmal acts left in for the tween appeal: The GHD3 and Poison Chalice for example. There's also Rylan, Odin save us. That said, the rest are pretty solid and way better than either of the two previous years I've seen; even the Overs have got three good singers in Chris, Kye and Melanie.
what so putting through acts like Rylan... isnt enough for them to never ever be able to dupe us again and say there only putting through acts that they feel can conquer the world.. what a load of tosh.. its not a singing contest...
how can you say you totally disagree? he cant sing.. he wont even break our charts never mind america!!!!!! and if they need joke singers in there to make the others look good then they have not done their job right.. cos there was atleast 3 in each catagory capable of singing and progressing ...
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Old 24-09-2012, 18:57
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Can see Elle more like Janet will love to see how she fares with uptempo songs come the LIVE shows!!
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Old 24-09-2012, 19:04
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...never ever be able to dupe us again and say there only putting through acts that they feel can conquer the world....
I don't recall them making that claim when Wagner went through

We do hear again and again that the show is about finding the next big international recording artist, or something like that. It's something they try to do. It isn't all they try to do, or there wouldn't have been so many totally duff performers in televised auditions. Even at the live shows it isn't all they're trying to do, because a cast of twelve plausible Next Big Global Things, or as near to it as they could rake together, would make for way too dull a show to keep the size of audience they need. Hence all the background stories and the novelty acts and performers who like Lucy are well removed from the mould of the international superstar.
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Old 24-09-2012, 19:05
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got to defend janet.. dont think it was her voice that was the problem... think it was she hated living in the house with all the partying going on.. she missed home.. was gived disgraceful song choices.. suffered badly from stage fright.. her talent is not in question.. for me anyway..

lucy.. she is a very talented writer.. full stop .. think she could write anything.. do i think she can sing? yes.. her own songs.. do i think she can sing a cover.. like the show usually requires.. no..
will the public vote to keep her in... without a doubt... will she make the final.. maybe!
should she make the final? nope! not strong enough vocally for a singing contest..
Apparently Janet started standing up to the producers and refusing to bend to their wishes (something they are most certainly not used to from the usual XF puppets) : they quickly grew tired of her and did everything they could to get her voted off the show.
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Old 24-09-2012, 20:09
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what so putting through acts like Rylan... isnt enough for them to never ever be able to dupe us again and say there only putting through acts that they feel can conquer the world.. what a load of tosh.. its not a singing contest...
how can you say you totally disagree? he cant sing.. he wont even break our charts never mind america!!!!!! and if they need joke singers in there to make the others look good then they have not done their job right.. cos there was atleast 3 in each catagory capable of singing and progressing ...
I don't disagree about Rylan - he's lovely and could have a career as a Channel 4 interviewer, but he cannot sing, you're right.

I took part of your comment on the final 24 to mean that you thought many were poor, when I see the best line-up I have seen on the show. Sure, there are some I dislike, but even GHD3 aren't as awful as One Dimension. And I think Lucy is just what the show needs - she got two standing ovations at auditions, how could they kick her out without a second chance?
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Old 24-09-2012, 20:13
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Janet was actually OK though.
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Old 24-09-2012, 20:18
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I think it's an interesting comparison. I thought Janet was great; not so mad about Lucy. She's quirky, but I'm already bored. Nice enough girl though.
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Old 24-09-2012, 20:51
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It doesn't bode well for her, we are yet to see her make a sucess of anything other than her own songs, at least with elle she's made a sucess of her own songs and others.

I'm guessing she will struggle open couple of weeks until the judges beg her to sing her own song the following week, then she does and will be fine
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Old 24-09-2012, 20:56
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Lucy should have gone for BGT instead.
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Old 24-09-2012, 20:59
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Lucy should have gone for BGT instead.
think everybody has the same conclusion ... but she didnt and she through to the lives so we either back her or sack her...
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Old 24-09-2012, 22:02
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Yep...in another word, rubbish!
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Old 24-09-2012, 22:54
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Apparently Janet started standing up to the producers and refusing to bend to their wishes (something they are most certainly not used to from the usual XF puppets) : they quickly grew tired of her and did everything they could to get her voted off the show.
Ah conspiracy theories!!

Perhaps she got voted off because people realised that she wasn't that good. I mean where is she now?
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Old 24-09-2012, 23:01
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Janet Devlin was quite good. Her problem was being forced to try to be some sort of Cheryl Cole type pop performer. The same could happen to Lucy, but if she gets through to Live I hope she can stand up for herself and just do what she wants to. She has nothing to learn from the judges other than how to compromise.
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Old 24-09-2012, 23:01
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Ah conspiracy theories!!

Perhaps she got voted off because people realised that she wasn't that good. I mean where is she now?
Well you only have to look at the evidence. She was the pre-show favourite and topped the poll for the opening four or five weeks, and yet the judges inexplicably started criticising her from early on. Gary Barlow in particular was really harsh with his comments, telling her she had lost her mojo and was delivering disappointing performances (and yet we now know she was still topping the poll when he was having a go at her).
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Old 24-09-2012, 23:08
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Ah conspiracy theories!!

Perhaps she got voted off because people realised that she wasn't that good. I mean where is she now?
Played various festivals etc., touring in November, debut album said to be in the pipeline. Thought she was pretty good myself.
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Old 24-09-2012, 23:20
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Well you only have to look at the evidence. She was the pre-show favourite and topped the poll for the opening four or five weeks, and yet the judges inexplicably started criticising her from early on. Gary Barlow in particular was really harsh with his comments, telling her she had lost her mojo and was delivering disappointing performances (and yet we now know she was still topping the poll when he was having a go at her).
But her live performances were disappointing - almost from the off. And when they got worse. I think she was rightly criticised for it.
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