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FingersAndToes
20-11-2012
Derek just tweeted a "Group shot semi final"

Spoiler
Kelly and Val were missing from the picture, hmmmm
Karma Ardent
20-11-2012
Originally Posted by FingersAndToes:
“Derek just tweeted a "Group shot semi final"

Spoiler
Kelly and Val were missing from the picture, hmmmm
”

Hopefully it was just a case of who was around at the time to pose for the shot.
Karma Ardent
20-11-2012
Originally Posted by Lili27:
“Dances

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVU-R...K&feature=plcp”

Thanks for the links and updates Lili.
Karma Ardent
20-11-2012
http://theclicker.today.com/_news/20...ir-judges?lite
FingersAndToes
20-11-2012
Originally Posted by Karma Ardent:
“http://theclicker.today.com/_news/20...ir-judges?lite”

Was Val in the right? Are he and Kelly under marked and and criticized too harshly?
Caramel Crunch
20-11-2012
I'd like an Apolo, Shawn & Melissa final.

I think they are better than Emmit & Kelly by quite a stretch now.
Rotationbl
20-11-2012
Originally Posted by Caramel Crunch:
“I'd like an Apolo, Shawn & Melissa final.

I think they are better than Emmit & Kelly by quite a stretch now.”

I don't know. I do think the "offbeat" dances were a total mess. None of them were good. Was it a chance for the judges to have free rein over the scores?

Shawn is easily the best dancer left. Melissa is hit or miss for me, and I think she has been overscored and overpraised recently. Emmitt is the weakest dancer left IMO. Kelly is one of the weakest, but I like her more than Melissa. Apollo doesn't excite me at all.

I think Shawn (and Derek of course) have got this in the bag. Predictable and boring.

I'm getting the feeling that the whole thing, or at least substantial parts of it, are rigged. Same with Strictly. That kind of spoils it for me.
FingersAndToes
20-11-2012
Originally Posted by Karma Ardent:
“Hopefully it was just a case of who was around at the time to pose for the shot.”

After reading that Val had got upset at the scoring etc, I doubt this was the case. Derek could have easily tweeted with any other text, but he tweeted "Group shot semi final", and didn't reply anything even though he was asked multiple times why Val and Kelly were not in the picture.

I might get shouted for this, but Derek isn't stupid, and he knows his own fanbase. He has picked his own faves at this point.
Karma Ardent
20-11-2012
Originally Posted by Caramel Crunch:
“I'd like an Apolo, Shawn & Melissa final.

I think they are better than Emmit & Kelly by quite a stretch now.”

In agreement with you on Apolo and Shawn but would probably swap Melissa for Kelly.

Weren't those mashup routines bonkers, who was deluded enough to come up with those. Kelly and Val whatever next naked mud wrestling


http://www.ontheredcarpet.com/video?id=8882943
Karma Ardent
20-11-2012
Originally Posted by FingersAndToes:
“After reading that Val had got upset at the scoring etc, I doubt this was the case. Derek could have easily tweeted with any other text, but he tweeted "Group shot semi final", and didn't reply anything even though he was asked multiple times why Val and Kelly were not in the picture.

I might get shouted for this, but Derek isn't stupid, and he knows his own fanbase. He has picked his own faves at this point.”


I don't know what goes on behind the scenes only what I hear, but don't think everyone are best friends; despite what they say to camera. Think they have their own little cliques, Val said he doesn't bother with anyone apart from Maks and Kelly and I think he is friends with Tony. Think Derek and Mark are brothers so have their clique too.

Don't think the scores are fair generally, too generous or too low dependent on the judges whims or fancy. Val and Kelly's surfer flamenco wasn't their best dance so could understand the scores.

Think there is a lot of tinkering behind the scenes to get who they want to the finals, and can understand rumblings from Val if he sees things are unfair, Maks has been vocal too. I think with these type of shows we would be naive to think it was a level playing field and everyone gets treated the same and there are no machinations going on.
Mr_XcX
20-11-2012
Hope Melissa, Kelly and Apolo make the final.

Really don't want a Shawn Johnson win cause I feel she does not deserve it. Her and Derek have broken numerous rules and gotten away with high marks.
FingersAndToes
20-11-2012
Originally Posted by Karma Ardent:
“I don't know what goes on behind the scenes only what I hear, but don't think everyone are best friends; despite what they say to camera. Think they have their own little cliques, Val said he doesn't bother with anyone apart from Maks and Kelly and I think he is friends with Tony. Think Derek and Mark are brothers so have their clique too.

Don't think the scores are fair generally, too generous or too low dependent on the judges whims or fancy. Val and Kelly's surfer flamenco wasn't their best dance so could understand the scores.

Think there is a lot of tinkering behind the scenes to get who they want to the finals, and can understand rumblings from Val if he sees things are unfair, Maks has been vocal too. I think with these type of shows we would be naive to think it was a level playing field and everyone gets treated the same and there are no machinations going on.”

I can see this, and I completely agree. I do however think there is a big difference in Maks tweeting his support for Val, or airing his thoughts about Val/Kelly's low marks, if they were too low vs. Derek tweeting a picture OPPOSING Val/Kelly. IMO that picture was quite blatantly obvious, and it was "a vote against" one other couple, not in support of someone in midst of many couples. I think it is really unfair and unsportsmanlike.
Lili27
21-11-2012
It must be stressful for a celebrity to be caught in the cross fire of feuding pros. A celebrity can only do the choreography they are given.

It's a tense and competative semi-final for sure. Good for ratings though. I hope Maks was able to garner votes by taking to twitter for Kelly if the fans feel she was underscored.
Lili27
21-11-2012
Shawn and Derek through to finals.
Lili27
21-11-2012
First couple to be eliminated

Apolo and Karina
Lili27
21-11-2012
Second elimination

Emmit and Cheryl.
Lili27
21-11-2012
I feel sad about Apolo leaving. I felt he would have done a fabulous freestyle.
Mr_XcX
21-11-2012
Is this the 1st time we have had an all female final?

Hope Melissa or Kelly win.

Shawn and Derek winning is just too predictable and boring. I don't think they have earned it.

What do y'all think.
Mr_XcX
21-11-2012
Also thank goodness Emmit is out. I was starting to think he was indestructable and would win regardless.
Lili27
21-11-2012
I think Maks twitter campaign worked.

Quote:
“To all my fans that voted for the other Chmerkovskiy: I'm humbled, grateful and forever in debt!!!”

Rotationbl
21-11-2012
Originally Posted by Mr_XcX:
“Is this the 1st time we have had an all female final?

Hope Melissa or Kelly win.

Shawn and Derek winning is just too predictable and boring. I don't think they have earned it.

What do y'all think.”

I'm so glad Kelly is in the final! I would love her to win, but I think she'll come third. Shawn is the best dancer, but they have broken the rules numerous times and Derek's arrogance is not remotely appealing. Shawn is lovely though.

Emmitt was overscored the whole way along. A perfect score? Give me a break.
Caramel Crunch
21-11-2012
Originally Posted by Lili27:
“First couple to be eliminated

Apolo and Karina”

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Dancefan8001
21-11-2012
Originally Posted by FingersAndToes:
“I can see this, and I completely agree. I do however think there is a big difference in Maks tweeting his support for Val, or airing his thoughts about Val/Kelly's low marks, if they were too low vs. Derek tweeting a picture OPPOSING Val/Kelly. IMO that picture was quite blatantly obvious, and it was "a vote against" one other couple, not in support of someone in midst of many couples. I think it is really unfair and unsportsmanlike.”

LOL, that pic wasn't opposing anybody, that's just who was around at that moment.

Did you miss the results show footage showing Kelly and Val clapping (and quite enthusiastically, for Val) after Shawn and Derek's Knight Rider Bangra, and Derek making a megaphone with his hands and shouting "Go Kelly!!!!" after Kelly and Val's rumba? Of course they all get along beautifully!

There was also a recent shot of Maks lifting Shawn off her feet in a hug, and Kirstie and Shawn have quite a mutual adoration society going on at the moment. Check their tweets!

Derek and Val are buds from way back. Here's a shot from last month of Derek and Val leaving Fratelli Cafe.
Prime!
21-11-2012
Wactedh the whole show on the way into work, (knw that Ipad was good for somethintg)

Would have preferred Apollo instead of Kelly, just simply due to ability, but glad that Emmit has gone.

I think I'm still bitter at Kelly's controversial first season victory, that I watched back in the day.

When Brooke was announcing Apollo's exit she did say thaty had finished bottom of the leaderboard, this meant that Emmit and Kelly were recieving more votes than him so I suppose I should be grateful that Kelly was getting more than Emmit, they were undermarked the previous night anyway.
fridgesoup
21-11-2012
Originally Posted by Lili27:
“First couple to be eliminated

Apolo and Karina”

Noooooooo!

Originally Posted by Lili27:
“Second elimination

Emmit and Cheryl.”

Phew!

I would have preferred Apolo to be in the final over Melissa, but Melissa over Emmit, so, it could have been worse

Tony doesn't have a great track record with the freestyle. I just hope they don't go too trick-tastic - Melissa's strength is her beautiful lines.

Anyone in any doubt that Shawn will walk it?



I thought the Off Beat dances this week were . What?! Why?! I despair!
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