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Old 18-10-2012, 10:38
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As expected for Emmerdale, i don't think annyone really expected it too go above 10million. Its the 3rd live soap episode in as many years the novelty of potential slip-ups is probably long gone
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Old 18-10-2012, 10:39
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More or less what I expected for Emmers - a good boost, but not to the level of EastEnders or Corrie's live episodes as the show hasn't quite been firing on all cylinders for a while.
I thnk the only way Emmerdale would have had 10/11m for the episode is if it went out at 8pm.
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Old 18-10-2012, 10:41
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as do I.

Yes it is a little odd that FOX has to pull X-Factor like that, but thats the contract they signed.

As I said previously (amusing how World Series posts are ignored unless you mention X-Factor) FOX will be praying the Yankees make the World Series this year, which at the moment does not seem likely.
Guessing it's because no-one cares less about rounders in this country, and most countries in the world. Rightly so
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Old 18-10-2012, 10:46
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Guessing it's because no-one cares less about rounders in this country, and most countries in the world. Rightly so
The Americans probably say the same about Football/soccer
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Old 18-10-2012, 11:06
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The Americans probably say the same about Football/soccer
Would be a silly thing to say the rest of the world doesn't care about it, but there ya go.

USA is a wonderful place, one of the few places that don't like the sport, but they believe the rest of the world is out of step with them.....
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Old 18-10-2012, 11:42
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Grand Designs 100th Episode doing very well for Channel 4 - 3.54m
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Old 18-10-2012, 11:54
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As expected for Emmerdale, i don't think annyone really expected it too go above 10million. Its the 3rd live soap episode in as many years the novelty of potential slip-ups is probably long gone
Especially as we can all see Bruce Forsyth presenting Strictly Come Dancing live every Saturday night.

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It'll be interesting to see how much of the live-episode boost Emmerdale holds onto and for how long, bearing in mind that it would expect a boost at this time of the year, anyway.
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Old 18-10-2012, 12:14
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FOX having an ITV moment tonight...
That entire situation was just a colossal screw up.

Of course the biggest aspect of the screw up is that they've now had to reschedule The X Factor against The Voice on Tuesday night. That is disastrous scheduling for an episode that should be the start of momentum building heading into the live shows. The Voice has been remarkably consistent so far this year with the changes to the Battle Rounds seemingly helping a lot so the last thing The X Factor needed was to be going up against it again in a hastily rescheduled episode out of its regular timeslot. This is not going to be pretty. I don't imagine NBC are particularly happy about the situation either...

As mentioned before Fox considers live sport very important, hence signing UFC to a large contract. They consider that more people will actually watch sports live rather than using catch up services, and as such more of the audience will be watching the adverts.
It isn't about the number of people watching but who those people are. In the grand scheme of things very few people actually watch UFC or even baseball at this point (although it was more popular when Fox originally signed the deal). What's valuable about them is that the audience they do attract is primarily young men who are pretty difficult to attract to prime time broadcast content and as such advertisers will pay higher rates for them. That's generally true the world over as well.
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Old 18-10-2012, 12:18
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Really bad rating for Who do you think you are, John Barnes must be quite an unpopular bloke with wdytya viewers.

Emmerdale live episode rated in the middle of my two predictions of 9.5m and 8.5m so done okay, but its no Eastenders or Coronatiokn street.
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Old 18-10-2012, 12:23
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Overnights Wednesday 17th October

BBC1
13:45 Doctors - 1.28m (19.2%)
18:00 BBC news at six - 5.04m (27%)
18:30 Regional news and weather - 5.52m (27%)
19:00 The one show - 3.99m (18%)
20:00 Watchdog - 4.72m (21%)
21:00 Who Do You Think You Are? 3.38m (14.9%)
22:00 BBC news at ten - 3.90m (22%)

BBC2
20:00 Great British Food Revival - 1.7m (7.8%)
21:00 Welcome To India - 1.64m (7%)
* + 112k on HD

ITV1
15:30-18:10 International Football - 4.11m (32.5%)
* 4.23m inc +1
* match average "just under 5m"
* peak 6.23m (36.6%) @ 17:40

18:30 ITV news & weather - 3.81m (19%) inc +1
19:00 Emmerdale - 8.83m (39.97%)
* +1 379k (1.69%)
* 15min peak 9.15m exc +1
* 9.21m average inc +1
* 5min peak 10.2m inc +1

20:00 All Star Mr & Mrs - 4.02m (18%) inc +1
21:00 DCI Banks - 4.36m (19.25%)
* +1 206k

Channel 4
18:00 The Simpsons - 1.52m inc +1
18:30 Hollyoaks - 855k (4.3%)
20:00 The Food Hospital - 1.3m (6%)
21:00 Grand Designs - 3.05m (12.5%)
* +1 553k

Channel 5
13:45 Neighbours - 677k (10.1%)
17:30 Neighbours - 867k (5.1%)
18:00 Home & Away - 698k (3.8%)
21:00 Dallas - 1.19m (5.3%)
* +1 130k

All day share
BBC1 - 18.9%
ITV 1 [inc +1] - 22.7%


ITV2
14:35 The Jeremy Kyle Show - 587k (9.2%) inc +1
20:00 Emmerdale Live - the Fallout - 1.58m (7.2%)
* +1 218k
22:00 The Only Way Is Essex - 968k (5.7%) inc +1

E4 [inc +1]
18:00 The Big Bang Theory - 679k (3.7%)
18:30 The Big Bang Theory - 843k (4.2%)
19:00 Hollyoaks - 680k (3.1%)
20:00 The Big Bang Theory - 560k (2.6%)
20:30 Two Broke Girls - 0.37m

Film 4 [inc +1]
18:40 Percy Jackson - 0.34m
21:00 The King Of Comedy - 0.15m

More 4 [inc +1]
21:00 24hrs in A&E - 0.42m
22:00 One Born Every Minute - 0.33m

BBC3
21:00 Come Fly with Me - 568k (2.5%)
21:30 Come Fly with Me - 566k (2.5%)

BBC4
21:00 The Final Frontier? - 471k (2.1%)
22:00 Getting On - 517k (2.9%)

5*
18:30 Home & Away - 495k (2.5%)

Comedy Central
22:00 The Office - 113k (0.6%)

Yesterday [inc +1]
19:20 Last Of The Summer Wine - 0.29m

Dave [inc +1]
21:00 Russell Howard's Good News - 0.29m

Watch [inc +1]
22:00 Dynamo: Magician Impossible - 0.25m



Very good rating for Emmerdale Live, I expect that will be the highest rating it pulls in this year. It could have gone higher I'm sure had it aired at 8pm though, as it has pulled 9m + several times in the last 2/3 years at 8pm on January Thursdays. It doesn't appear to have boosted the rest of ITV's night, a disappointing follow on from Mr & Mrs, which really ought to have seen a boost. DCI Banks performed solidly at 9pm though. Earlier the football seemed to do pretty well considering the timeslot, the match probably benefited from the added promotion the postponement brought.

Elsewhere Who Do You Think You Are? pulled in a low number, perhaps dented by the improvement in Grand Designs' ratings. Although it wasn't all good for Channel 4 as an awful October rating for Hollyoaks again crops up.
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Old 18-10-2012, 12:59
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Channel 4 top programs of 2012

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ C4 -------------- C4 +1 ----------- C4 Official
01: Paralympic Games Opening Ceremony 29/8/12 ------- 7.57m (38.9%) ------- 116k ----------------- 7.78m
02: Big Fat Gypsy Weddings 14/02/12 ----------------------------- 4.81m (19.9%) ------- 858k ---------------- 6.03m
03: Peter Kay Live: The Tour That Didn't Tour 16/8/12 ---- 3.63m (17.1%) ------- 577k ---------------- 4.65m
04: The Queen's Mother in Law 21/8/12 -------------------------- 3.47m (14.9%) ------- 493k ---------------- 4.09m
05: One Born Every Minute 22/2/12 --------------------------------- 3.26m (13.7%) ------- 506k ---------------- 4.15m
06: The Plane Crash 11/10/12 ------------------------------------------ 3.15m (14.7%) ------- 338k --------------------------
07: Grand Designs 17/10/12 --------------------------------------------- 3.05m (12.5%) ------- 553k --------------------------
08: Peter Kay Live at the Bolton Albert Halls 12/4/12 ------ 3.04m (13.3%) ------- 407k ---------------- 3.35m
09: Embarrassing Bodies 5/3/12 -------------------------------------- 2.95m (12.0%) ------- 509k -----------------3.24m
10: 24 Hours in A&E 20/6/12 --------------------------------------------- 2.89m (13.3%) ------- 401k ---------------- 3.23m
11: 15 Kids and Counting 17/1/12 ------------------------------------- 2.89m (12.0%) ------- 340k ---------------- 3.43m
12: Terror At Sea 31/1/12 ------------------------------------------------- 2.87m (12.0%) ------- 332k ---------------- 3.17m
13: The Hoarder Next Door 3/5/12 ----------------------------------- 2.73m (11.6%) -------- 473k ---------------- 3.11m
14: Gordon Behind Bars 26/6/12 -------------------------------------- 2.64m (11.6%) -------- 321k ---------------- 3.10m

2010 Channel 4 top programs
2011 Channel 4 top programs

C4 and C4 +1 are overnight ratings, C4 official are from the Barb website.
All overnight ratings for 2012 are tape checked averages.
Shows are ranked in order of overnight ratings.
Each name of show only gets one mention in the list; including Paralympics.
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Old 18-10-2012, 13:09
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ITV1
15:30-18:10 International Football - 4.11m (32.5%)
* 4.23m inc +1
* match average "just under 5m"
* peak 6.23m (36.6%) @ 17:40

18:30 ITV news & weather - 3.81m (19%) inc +1
19:00 Emmerdale - 8.83m (39.97%)
* +1 379k (1.69%)
* 15min peak 9.15m exc +1
* 9.21m average inc +1
* 5min peak 10.2m inc +1

20:00 All Star Mr & Mrs - 4.02m (18%) inc +1
21:00 DCI Banks - 4.36m (19.25%)
* +1 206k
Not that bad, was it? I predicted 8-9 million, although I was secretly hoping it would be higher. Definitely agree that had it been scheduled for 8pm, it would have got way more viewers.
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Old 18-10-2012, 13:10
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Overnight ratings round-up
Sunday 14th October 2012


BBC One
18:25 - BBC News: 4.68m (24%)
18:50 - Strictly Come Dancing: 8.06m (32.5%)
* peak: 8.73m (33.9%) at 19:20
19:30 - Countryfile: 6.445m (25.4%)
20:30 - Antiques Roadshow: 4.51m (19.8%)
21:30 - Andrew Marr's History of the World: 2.60m (11.3%)
* up 240k and 2.3 share points week-on-week
* 21:30-22:00 - 2.25m
* 22:00-22:30 - 2.95m

22:30 - BBC News: 2.99m (19%)

BBC Two
19:00 - Fawlty Towers: 1.57m (6.2%)
21:00 - Dragons' Den: 1.79m (7.9%) inc 173k (0.75%) on BBC HD

ITV1
18:45 - ITV News & Weather: 2.945m (13%)
19:00 - Coronation Street: 6.24m (25.3%), +1: 484k (1.8%)
20:00 - The X Factor Results: 9.37m (35.3%), +1: 345k (2.0%)
* Broadcast reports a +1 figure of 254k (1.0%)
* peak: 11.38m (40.7%) exc +1 at 20:50, highest peak of series

21:00 - Downton Abbey: 9.46m (36.6%), +1: 254k (1.0%)
* 12-month slot average: 5.91m (22.6%)
22:05 - ITV News & Weather: 4.88m (24%)

Channel 4
20:00 - Kevin McCloud's Man Made Home: 1.42m (5.4%), +1: 248k (0.9%)
21:00 - Homeland: 1.83m (7.0%), +1: 415k (2.3%)
* 12-month slot average: 1.79m (6.85%)
22:00 - Friday Night Dinner: 715k (3.6%), +1: 104k (0.8%)
* MediaGuardian reports 0.9m inc +1

Channel 5
16:35 - FILM: A Bug's Life: 1.57m (10.2%), +1: 212k (1.1%)
21:00 - FILM: Rocky Balboa: 1.10m (5.1%), +1: 104k (0.8%)

Multichannel

BBC Three
22:20 - American Dad!: 659k (3.7%)
22:40 - Family Guy: 610k (4.3%)
23:05 - Family Guy: 731k (7.4%)

ITV2 (inc +1)
21:00 - The Xtra Factor Results: 1.12m (4.3%)
22:00 - The Only Way is Essex: 964k (5.1%)

E4 (inc +1)
18:30 - The Big Bang Theory: 682k (3.2%)
19:30 - The Big Bang Theory: 600k (2.4%)
20:00 - FILM: Jumper: 586k (2.2%)

Sky 1
18:00 - The Simpsons: 595k (3.3%)

Primetime shares
ITV1 - 29.6% (+1: 1.2%)
BBC One - 19.9%
Channel 4 - 5.4% (+1: 1.2%)
BBC Two - 5.4%
Channel 5: 4.4% (+1: 0.5%)

All-day shares (inc +1)
BBC One - 17.4%
ITV1 - 16.8%
Channel 4 - 6.3%
BBC Two - 5.9%
Channel 5 - 5.4%
ITV2 - 3.8%
ITV3 - 2.4%

Sources: DS, ITV Media, C4 Sales, Broadcast, MediaGuardian
Thanks for posting those. Xtra Factor seems a lot down on the nearly two million who tuned in the week before, but that was because of a shock result the week before.

Interesting that XF had 11.3m and a 40% share, whereas Strictly had around the same and a 46% share, gives the impression that the TV audience is less on Saturday.

So I think the pattern will be that XF will beat Strictly on the Sunday, and Strictly will trounce it on the Saturday, at the moment that is what I am seeing.

In terms of Emmerdale, I see a 10.2m peak inc +1, and that average is better than a number of episodes of XF aired this year! Good rating for 'The Fallout' on ITV2, 1.8m must be among their highest average audiences ever, which I would expect to be higher when the consolidated ratings come in.

A bit underwhelming for the football on the other hand.
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Old 18-10-2012, 13:18
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Not that bad, was it? I predicted 8-9 million, although I was secretly hoping it would be higher. Definitely agree that had it been scheduled for 8pm, it would have got way more viewers.
Yeah, and it would have made sense as well, especially as it means they could have shown Corrie as well to give it a big lead-in (although I know they were keeping Corries in reserve to dent Strictly). I remember back in 1999 Emmerdale got a huge rating when they showed an hour long episode at 8pm on a Tuesday. I know I always bang on about soaps being scheduled away from their regular slots but in an instance like this it's worth it, and they could have shown an Emmerdale special at seven.

Indeed, given how they always wheel out the first Corrie it's perhaps a surprise they didn't show the first Emmerdale, which at least has the benefit of being in colour. Actually rather than a live episode, which feels like they just did it because that's what soaps do on birthdays now, more interesting would have been doing an episode in the style of the first episode which famously had virtually no dialogue.
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Old 18-10-2012, 13:25
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Emmerdale is a circa 6m show isn't it ? So that's a good uplift for the live.
Well Corrie and Eastenders were both struggling to get over 10m before their live shows and got 14m and 14.9m respectively. I'm not saying it's a bad figure for Emmerdale just it's fairly decent, nothing more, nothing less.

Are we sure BARB haven't been inflating C4 numbers again? That Grand Designs figure seems to have jumped a fair bit.
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Old 18-10-2012, 14:00
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.Are we sure BARB haven't been inflating C4 numbers again? That Grand Designs figure seems to have jumped a fair bit.
Grand Designs had their own 'birthday'. As dave01 commented, it looks like it benefited from the 1m slump for WDYTYA, picking up a bit over 1m itself.
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Old 18-10-2012, 14:04
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Grand Designs had their own 'birthday'. As dave01 commented, it looks like it benefited from the 1m slump for WDYTYA, picking up a bit over 1m itself.
Or BARB could have allocated some BBC1 viewers to C4 during the 9pm hour.
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Old 18-10-2012, 14:04
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Yeah, and it would have made sense as well, especially as it means they could have shown Corrie as well to give it a big lead-in (although I know they were keeping Corries in reserve to dent Strictly). I remember back in 1999 Emmerdale got a huge rating when they showed an hour long episode at 8pm on a Tuesday. I know I always bang on about soaps being scheduled away from their regular slots but in an instance like this it's worth it, and they could have shown an Emmerdale special at seven.

Indeed, given how they always wheel out the first Corrie it's perhaps a surprise they didn't show the first Emmerdale, which at least has the benefit of being in colour. Actually rather than a live episode, which feels like they just did it because that's what soaps do on birthdays now, more interesting would have been doing an episode in the style of the first episode which famously had virtually no dialogue.


Got to agree - I think they could have been a bit more adventurous with it and put it out at 8pm - the hour before (7-8pm) could have been an hour long "birthday special" containing actors from the last 40 years live in the studio etc.. and poss. this hour long show including the first ever episode!

Both shows would have comfortably beaten The One Show & Watchdog.
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Old 18-10-2012, 14:31
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Interesting that TOS was slightly up on last week. Maybe it captured some Corrie fans who are not Emm fans.

Or BARB could have allocated some BBC1 viewers to C4 during the 9pm hour.
Now you're just getting paranoid!
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Old 18-10-2012, 14:45
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According to Richard Bacon on 5live this afternoon, the new series of Miranda will begin on Christmas Day.
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Old 18-10-2012, 14:48
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According to Richard Bacon on 5live this afternoon, the new series of Miranda will begin on Christmas Day.
Miranda and Mrs Brown's Boys on Christmas Day. We've speculated that would be the case for quite some time around here.
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Old 18-10-2012, 15:55
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According to Richard Bacon on 5live this afternoon, the new series of Miranda will begin on Christmas Day.
Miranda and Mrs Brown's Boys on Christmas Day. We've speculated that would be the case for quite some time around here.
It would make most sense for eastenders to be at both 8 and 9, with Miranda and Mrs Brown's Boys taking the half past slots? But I can't see how they'd fit in Call the Midwife as well, that will have to go on another day...
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Old 18-10-2012, 16:04
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So BBC1's Christmas Day line-up:

1.00pm Mr Stink
2.00pm Top Of The Pops
3.00pm The Queen
3.10pm Up
4.50pm News
5.00pm Dr Who
6.00pm Strictly Come Dancing
7.00pm Eastenders
7.30pm Miranda
8.00pm Call The Midwife
9.00pm Eastenders
9.30pm The Royle Family
10.30pm Mrs Brown's Boys
11.00pm News
11.10pm Speed

Sorted.
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Old 18-10-2012, 16:11
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Better idea:

2.00pm Top Of The Pops
3.00pm The Queen
3.10pm Up on BBC1 with a classic film on the red button
4.50pm News
5.00pm Dr Who
6.00pm Strictly Come Dancing
7.00pm Eastenders
7.30pm Miranda
8.00pm Call The Midwife
9.00pm Eastenders
9.30pm The Royle Family
10.30pm Mrs Brown's Boys
11.00pm News
11.10pm A 18 rated film, It will be a good idea to show another film other then speed
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So BBC1's Christmas Day line-up:

1.00pm Mr Stink
2.00pm Top Of The Pops
3.00pm The Queen
3.10pm Up
4.50pm News
5.00pm Dr Who
6.00pm Strictly Come Dancing
7.00pm Eastenders
7.30pm Miranda
8.00pm Call The Midwife
9.00pm Eastenders
9.30pm The Royle Family
10.30pm Mrs Brown's Boys
11.00pm News
11.10pm Speed

Sorted.
Perfect, but Dr Who is on too early and Strictly is pointless with so many other things to show!! It's only ever really been filler...
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