It's just the contrast across the week thats so amazing at NBC at the moment. Sundays and Mondays smash it out the park, while Tuesdays are very competitive too. Then Wednesday and Thursday just completely collapse!

I guess they'll have to soldier through to midseason with what they've got on Wednesdays - at which point they'll probably drop in a 2 hour Biggest Loser, followed by SVU, which might at least salvage some semblance of respectability. Actually, if that did happen, it could wind up leaving the famed Thursdays as NBC's worst night of the week. Now that really is a fall no-one would have believed 10 years ago.

A trail on BBC One for Russell Howard's Good News after Waterloo Road. They must be desperate considering the poor ratings it's had this series so far in the premier air slot.

does anyone know how many people roughly watch looose women, i cant find audience figures for it

Which week does I'm A Celeb start ? Is Mr Selfridge going to start this side of Christmas ?

It's getting crushed by Red Dwarf. It's more a 10 o'clock show to me. Works better there.

I'm A Celeb must be starting the Sunday after Downton finishes. Three episodes of Downton left. And Jeremy Piven said Mr Selfridge will start in January. I've heard good things about it.

It's so true. Their ratings are like feast or famine with certain days. There's no inbetween. And they really need to sort out Thursdays. Ditch all of the comedies and try and find shows with broad appeal.

The Mr Selfridge opener is 90 minutes, they ought to air it sometime over Christmas. Given that I've heard very little about any drama for Christmas on ITV.

I think IAC will start on November 11th.

30 Rock has outstayed its welcome. Never been a big hit anyway and would have been better off on HBO.


I worry that NBC will kill The Voice with two series a year but it's paid off for them. I'm glad they have a hit.

I almost didn't watch because I've become so fed up with the way Blackburn has trashed many of the established characters (eg Laurel, Paddy, Ashley, Marlon) and introduced terrible new ones like the Spencer family that I've stopped watching more than one or two episodes a week It was meant to be a shock death but it was blatantly obvious weeks ago from the way Carl's character was being shredded that he would be the one to die.

I'm glad I did watch though because I thought it was superb and pretty much everyone did a really really good job. Didn't notice any errors glaring enough to spoil the viewing. I'll keep watching for the immediate future to catch the fall out but after that will probably drift back to part time and hope that things pick up when Blackburn clears off (hopefully taking that terrible family with him).

I could see that on New Year's Day or the first Sunday of 2013.

That sounds about right. Is it a 3 week series again?

If they go on last years schedule, then I presume yes. Last years series started after the results of the sixth live show of XF, and finished 3 weeks later when the semi-finals (of XF) were being aired.

Regarding Emmerdale: yes, the audience is only the highest in a year and a bit, but on the other hand, when was the last time it had a 40 percent share? I think you have to go back more than a few years to find that.

A thought to get Robbie Sykes seething. IAC likely to launch against the final episode of Andrew Marr's little watched History Of The World giving it free rein to storm the ratings from the off.

Rumoured Dancing on Ice 2013 lineup [8 out of the 12 celebs]:

- Gareth Thomas
- Matthew Lapinskas
- Luke Campbell ‏
- Keith Chegwin‏
- Lauren Goodger
- Samia Ghadie
- Anthea Turner
- Beth Tweddle

I dusted off the Ratings Thread archive and Emmerdale was only getting 36-38% as far back as late 2007 / early 2008.

Time was when a 40% share was the minimum required to be classed as a 'hit', but it's pretty exceptional these days, so fair play to Emmers. The total TV audience was only 22m; if it had been 25m then a 40% share would have been 10m. However, viewing wasn't hugely higher in the 8pm hour, so perhaps showing Emmerdale then wouldn't have helped it too much.


Did anyone just have a flashback to C5's Naked Jungle? Perhaps he should have been on IAC...

Possibly not New Years Day, apparently the final episode of Wild at Heart is planned for that.

But I expect Mr Selfridge will be Sunday nights in January / Feb paired up with Dancing on Ice.

What, not Gareth Thomas who played Blake in Blake's 7!!? (Don't answer that. I know who it is. At least, I assume it's not the sci-fi actor.)

Two of these don't even have a Wikipedia page. A bit part from Eastenders and - oh dear - a refugee from TOWIE.

I know we have two of our Olympic heroes on the list, and I always defend DOI's line-ups because ice-dancing is a tougher discipline than dancing and so more difficult to cast, but I can't see anything here to suggest the programme will reverse its recent ratings decline, particularly if it continues to go up against Call The Midwife.

The DS thread for Hebburn attracts 2 comments. Is that going to be a guide to the sort of ratings it's going to attract? Uh-oh.

Doesn't actually seem that bad and no worse than the SCD line up. DOI is usually the worst one out of the few big celeb based shows and usually recycles contestants from other shows.

I'm not sure it will do anything for the ratings though, the issues with DOI are rooted much deeper than the line up.

They need to think about splitting the show IMO; move the main programme back to Saturday nights (BBC One is relatively weak there between January and March) and then air the results on a Sunday. Call The Midwife is a pain in their side but they could always get Dancing On Ice out of the way before it comes on.

You're joking, right. Thsi is a much worse lineup than SCD. SCD has Victoria Pendleton, one of the most famous female British Olympians ever. Doi has someone called Beth Tweddle who most people have never heard of. And a TOWIE character and a former small-time Eastenders actor that was in it for only a few months. SCD's cast are more well known overall.

isnt she the sister of Stanley Tweedle from Lexx?

Oh come on. Anyone who got swept up by Olympic fever (i.e. about 10 million people) will know very well who Beth is.

Not a bad DOI lineup at all.

Well said, can't believe anybody could have a dig at this year's Strictly line-up, it's one of the best they have ever had!

There's been a lot of comments from people that this year they have recognised all of the celebrities unlike previous series.