The statistics speak for themsleves. At least the talk about The Voice today has given some posters memories of happier times, how they must dread waking up on Sunday mornings now......

In the consolidated figures, both the Saturday and Sunday episodes in Live Week 1 were -19.0% down on last year inc +1. In the overnights, Saturday was down -17.2% and Sunday was down -19.0%.

For Live Week 2, the overnights were down -12.1% y-on-y on Saturday and -15.7% on Sunday.

For Live Week 3 (this weekend), Saturday was -15.2% down y-on-y.

One important thing? The first half on the Saturday performed unlike a finale - only slightly up on the previous week. It managed 10.6m. Sunday however was more finale like, pulling 12.9m.

But then X Factor usually pulled 11m average on a Sunday. Its now pulling 9m.


Thanks for those.

right ok so here are the correct figured (including HD)

The biggest difference between X-Factor 2011 & 2012 is 3.171 million, the lowest is 1.201 million

The average of the difference is 2.21 million, no real difference

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and with the correct data, the predicted ratings

Final - 9.50
Results - 11.25

a little bit healthier.

Not all of us take television ratings so personally George.

does it matter if xfactor or strictly win ratings at least they arnt on at same time or clashing lots like last year. easy to watch both etc. two years ago and the years b4 xfactor always beat strictly still doesnt change anything and both shows still going after many many years.

True but I can't see it jumping high because the Sunday shows aren't rising much as yet.

Doesn't matter for us. Matters for BBC1 and ITV.

It had a 12m average (including HD, official figures).

The final in 2009 for XF also performed unlike a finale, only managing 12m and 13.8m peak, but the Sunday show grew magnificently with 15m and 19.7m peak. I doubt we'll get a growth like that this year however.

what causes the dip at Auditions 5 for both years? Is that bank holiday weekend?

From the same poster that had an OTT rant about Robbie just a few weeks ago.

The BGT final? Yes it did. You were talking about the peak! I see that now!DOH! Still peaks aren't the average and won't show up in BARB's end of year chart.


But the Sunday X Factor ratings are similar to Saturday ratings of 10m with +1. The final will be the highest rated edition but I'm not sure it'll go as high as last year unless weather intervenes.

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ratings seem down on all shows this year from dramas like new tricks and soaps etc does this mean each year there will be another drop and therefore even the soaps will only muster 5 million in a few years. xfactor being down is just the same as bgt being down on past years. even dr who this year hasnt been rating as high. seems only few shows are avoiding drops such as strictly and maybe downton. know ratings matter more for itv and other advert carrying channels but apart from olympics bbc 1 hardly had great year with ratings for main shows like eastenders and new dramas. think its just the way tv viewing is changing and more ppl on web more each year. few shows now pull in over 10 million and guess in future less and less will.

BGT had an awesome marketing campaign, a fresh panel and great final. Its ratings were UP on 2011; helped by the things I mentioned and The Voice, although that became a lot less important as weeks went on. It held its on.

Not comparable in the slightest.


It had its highest ever overnight since 2010 actually; and every episode was above 7m. The average final was up yoy but with a different structure to the series we can't compare them without the rest of the episodes.


Strictly isn't just avoiding drops - its up year on year.
The Voice launched strongly this year, it tore itself apart at the end of its run, but launching well shows your not too right.

Eastenders and the Soaps are down because of quality.
TV has not changed massively in the last year, were seeing continued trends like iplayer (yet BBC shows usually rate pretty well anyway) and recordings which we learn more about in the finals.


X Factor is down heavily year on year. The fact BGT was up is enough; its down to the shows, not viewing habits.

You never know. The unexpected often hits you right between the eyes.




If it airs against SPOTY, it might struggle even more than usual as I suspect there is going to be massive interest in the outcome of that in this annus mirabilis for British sport (except football).

Im sure I read that SPOTY wont face X Factor somewhere. SPOTY rating will be yet another eagerly awaited figure in this unbelievable year.

Last year's third live Sunday results episode had 9.77m (38.0%) / 10.11m (exc/inc +1) in the overnights. The first two such episodes this year were down -19.0% and -15.7% on 2011 (inc +1). If tonight's show gets 9.1m exc +1, that would be a mere -7% fall y-on-y. If it gets 9.1m inc +1, the fall would be -10%. I think ITV would be pleased with either of those, as the show would be seen to be catching up with last year. I will go for a -13% fall, which would be 8.5m (8.8m with +1).


This year it was the Paralympic Closing Ceremony on Sunday 9 September which dented TXF's fifth auditions episode. Last year (Sunday 11 September) there was no obvious cause for the drop at Auditions 5, although Countryfile and George Gently both had 6m+ despite half-clashing with TXF, so perhaps it was the increased competition compared with Auditions 4 on the Saturday (when it faced Secret Fortune and the news), which outweighed the fact that there are more viewers available on a Sunday night.

if you look back before the web and before mass tv channels shows like eastender would get 18 million even with i player added it doesnt get that. think more people are playing on games on ipads etc and facebooking and are less interested in tv shows now and only royal events and sport events that get the nation together are the big hits. cant see many shows getting 10 million in 2 to 3 years when 4g takes off less ppl are intrested in tv now as there are too many options to past time mostly due to the web

BBC One schedule for tomorrow night now officially updated:
8.30 Fake Britain
9.00 New Tricks
10.00 BBC News
10.35 Panorama: Jimmy Saville - What the BBC Knew
11.35 Our War

A little surprised Panorama isn't in prime time as of course now the papers will say the BBC are trying to 'bury it'. In reality it just makes scheduling sense, and there's just no where to put it in prime time.

"OTT rant"?

Well I suppose I could just make sly, personal digs at posters (with an added smiley for good measure) like yourself.

Statistics show that people are watching as much TV as they ever did. However there are dozens more channels to choose from these days. A high number of sports channels or film channels or documentary channels or music channels or.....etc etc. If each channel picks up a few thousand viewers then that all adds up leaving less viewers for BBC1 and ITV1.

I like Ola and hope all the best for her.

*sigh* This thread just goes round in circles on Weekends

It's still an earlier slot that ITV gave their Exposure programme.

edit: Will tomorrow night's Newsnight just feature the presenters and production team sitting round a TV set watching BBC1?

Newsnight leading on a report about Panorama conducting an investigation about Newsnight. "And you can see that programme now on BBC1."