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Old 01-10-2012, 12:43
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Digital Spy has updated. But only with ITV ratings.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s183/...-x-factor.html

X Factor didn't rise as much as it normally does for that episode. Low for Xtra Factor too. Very good for Downton especially considering the lower lead-in.
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Old 01-10-2012, 12:46
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BBC One should have had Hunted or something on.
Spooks did well last year.

Marr is the worst thing they could have chosen.
It'd be posing 2.5m with or without Downton.
[very good ratings for ITV last night]
I can't imagine Danny Cohen ever thought he would get a big audience with Marr. Dimbleby is a far superior presenter and would be ideal for this sort of thing.
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Old 01-10-2012, 12:48
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Equally people complained about the amount of period dramas and repetitive dramas that covered the screens on a Sunday. They can't win either way really.
True but when they were on they weren't always on the same night. BBC1/ITV would mix it up on the night.
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Old 01-10-2012, 12:51
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X-Factor - 9.46m (35.4%)
* +1 382k (1.4%)

Downton - 9.66m (36.9%)
* + 1 325k (1.8%)


I think that is the first time Downton has outrated X-Factor.
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Old 01-10-2012, 12:52
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What did XF peak at? Very disappointing.
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Old 01-10-2012, 12:58
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What did XF peak at? Very disappointing.
The X Factor had the higher peak with +1. 11.2m to Downton's 10.6m but Downton is a ratings beast and timeshifts much better. So it will be the top show of the week I'd assume. The rating might be disappointing by X Factor's standards but for Sunday night on ITV as a whole it's good.
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Old 01-10-2012, 12:58
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BARB has released some re-adjusted overnight ratings from last week:

- last Sunday's The X Factor actually averaged 9.84m (36.91%).
- last Sunday's Downton Abbey averaged 9.73m (36.75%).

Source: broadcast

So yesterday's X Factor was actually down week-on-week. I expect more revised overnights to come through over the next few hours/days.
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Old 01-10-2012, 12:58
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Breaking: Last Sunday's X Factor had 9.84m (36.91%) in the revised overnights after BARB fixed their reporting error, meaning last night's big reveal episode was down about 400k week-on-week.
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Old 01-10-2012, 13:00
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The X Factor had the higher peak with +1. 11.2m to Downton's 10.6m but Downton is a ratings beast and timeshifts much better. So it will be the top show of the week I'd assume. The rating might be disappointing by X Factor's standards but for Sunday night on ITV as a whole it's good.
Broadcast says it peaked with 10.63m (37.65%)

But the live shows are next, if they stay at this level it won't be good enough. It'll be interesting to see if it could grow its audience over the next week.
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Old 01-10-2012, 13:03
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BBC One should have had Hunted or something on.
Spooks did well last year.

Marr is the worst thing they could have chosen.
It'd be posing 2.5m with or without Downton.
[very good ratings for ITV last night]
Seems there was a wedding going on in Downton which may have caused extra to tune in, but its very impressive none the less.X Factor still depressed somewhat.
As for Marr, having watched bits, its seems to be trying to be populist with its drama sequences, but it falls between all stools tbh because they are just not good enough. It would not look out of place on CBBC. Iv seen a few posts suggesting its a landmark BBC output, but imo it isnt anywhere near that.
Hunted might have worked as an alternative , arguably it wont get many more viewers on Thursdays with much less opposition than it would on Sundays.

EDIT: It was curious to read that Fellowes is already suggesting a prequel to DA but stating that it wont be done until DA ends. Im sure ITV would want DA going on for many years, but Fellowes comments might suggest otherwise. Any DA link show would not do as well as the original imo.
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Old 01-10-2012, 13:03
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Did anyone here enjoy HOTW? I thought the first one was quite interesting (the second is still recorded) but the only two comments mentioned on Points of View were negative: 'less informative than the videos we were shown in school history lessons', 'cringeworthy reconstructions of events millennia ago' (similar to online opinion someone noted earlier.) It's lost nearly a quarter of its premiere audience so it seems not to have gone down well.

It's also an ABC1-type programme so was always going to struggle in this slot. As mentioned before, a raucous comedy such as MBB would have done better. Maybe the BBC weren't overjoyed with the quality themselves and were happy to sacrifice it? They can still hold their head up and say they showed a knowledge-building, flagship PSB programme on primetime BBC1, a big-budget factual alternative to Downton.

Hunted would have done much better but it would have been a shame for its potential to be stunted when it could get 2m more + on Thursday.
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Old 01-10-2012, 13:03
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I could be wrong but it perhaps doesn't bode well for the live shows that fewer people cared who made the top 16 than they did about Boot Camp. The viewing pattern seems different for this series.
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Old 01-10-2012, 13:03
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BARB has released some re-adjusted overnight ratings from last week:

- last Sunday's The X Factor actually averaged 9.84m (36.91%).
- last Sunday's Downton Abbey averaged 9.73m (36.75%).

Source: broadcast

So yesterday's X Factor was actually down week-on-week. I expect more re-adjusted overnights to come through over the next few hours/days.
Downton is the top dog in TV right now....helped a fair bit by other channels running scared of it.
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Old 01-10-2012, 13:04
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Broadcast says it peaked with 10.63m (37.65%)

But the live shows are next, if they stay at this level it won't be good enough. It'll be interesting to see if it could grow its audience over the next week.
I got the +1 peaks from Jenny Cummins Twitter feed.

"ITV1 RATINGS - The X Factor peaked with 11.2m (average 9.8m) and Downton Abbey peaked with 10.6m (averaging 10m) - figs inc+1"
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Old 01-10-2012, 13:06
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Presumably Jenny's peak includes +1. Last year's equivalent episode peaked at 12.9m/45% excluding +1.
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Old 01-10-2012, 13:06
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Broadcast says it peaked with 10.63m (37.65%)

But the live shows are next, if they stay at this level it won't be good enough. It'll be interesting to see if it could grow its audience over the next week.
The immense length of the early live shows wont help it in that respect.
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Old 01-10-2012, 13:09
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BARB has released some re-adjusted overnight ratings from last week:

- last Sunday's The X Factor actually averaged 9.84m (36.91%).
- last Sunday's Downton Abbey averaged 9.73m (36.75%).

Source: broadcast

So yesterday's X Factor was actually down week-on-week. I expect more re-adjusted overnights to come through over the next few hours/days.
Just for reference the previous incorrect ratings from that Sunday were 8.14m (30.7%) for Downton and 8.86m (33.6%) for X-Factor. So BARB were way off last weekend really.
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Old 01-10-2012, 13:09
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I got the +1 peaks from Jenny Cummins Twitter feed.

"ITV1 RATINGS - The X Factor peaked with 11.2m (average 9.8m) and Downton Abbey peaked with 10.6m (averaging 10m) - figs inc+1"
So that peak including +1 is still down on 2008's peak for this episode. It's equivalent to the peak of the last auditions episode but it's practically appalling.
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Old 01-10-2012, 13:10
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Just for reference the previous incorrect ratings from that Sunday were 8.14m (30.7%) for Downton and 8.86m (33.6%) for X-Factor. So BARB were way off last weekend really.
Also Channel 4's Big Fat Quiz was only down 50k with ratings of 1.45m (5.98%) / 275k (1.72%) +1.

So it had about 1.9m (inc. +1) last week, not 3m.
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Old 01-10-2012, 13:11
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From DS:

X-Factor - 9.46m (35.4%)
* +1 382k (1.4%)

Downton - 9.66m (36.9%)
* + 1 325k (1.8%)


I think that is the first time Downton has outrated X-Factor.
BARB has released some re-adjusted overnight ratings from last week:

- last Sunday's The X Factor actually averaged 9.84m (36.91%).
- last Sunday's Downton Abbey averaged 9.73m (36.75%).

Source: broadcast

So yesterday's X Factor was actually down week-on-week. I expect more revised overnights to come through over the next few hours/days.

So does this mean that DA was also marginally down on last week?
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Old 01-10-2012, 13:12
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.Hunted might have worked as an alternative , arguably it wont get many more viewers on Thursdays with much less opposition than it would on Sundays.
I have to disagree: Homefront will be lucky to get 2.5m so that's another 7 million viewers up for grabs. [OK not quite as viewing is lower on Thursdays than Sundays] In fact the competition from minor channels is quite intense on Thursday but still it's a lot easier than facing Downton.
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Old 01-10-2012, 13:16
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So if we have, say a 10-15% decline for the first live show, compared to last years first live show (both shows), what does that equal to?
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Old 01-10-2012, 13:17
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So does this mean that DA was also marginally down on last week?
Paul Millar might have to update his article and replace with a less celebratory piece, as neither show achieved a series high according to the latest data...............
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Old 01-10-2012, 13:19
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Currently BBC 1's Sunday viewing choice is made up exclusively of factual programming. Drama, light entertainment and comedy don't get a look in.
Equally people complained about the amount of period dramas and repetitive dramas that covered the screens on a Sunday. They can't win either way really.
Yes, because of course the Strictly results are coming back next week so you're getting light entertainment on a Sunday, and people moan that's too long anyway. And if they do go up against Downton with a drama then people claim they're being aggressive, a la Spooks.
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Old 01-10-2012, 13:26
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I have to disagree: Homefront will be lucky to get 2.5m so that's another 7 million viewers up for grabs. [OK not quite as viewing is lower on Thursdays than Sundays] In fact the competition from minor channels is quite intense on Thursday but still it's a lot easier than facing Downton.
Homeland's ratings will be interesting. I think it might have a chance of getting close to 3m overnight - the reviews in America for the Season 2 premier were terrific and I would expect similar preview notices here.
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